Pensacola City Council Votes To Remove Confederate Monument, Rename Lee Square

July 15, 2020

The Pensacola City Council voted Tuesday night to remove the Confederate monument from downtown Pensacola and change the name of Lee Square.

The council voted 6-1, with Councilman Andy Terhaar against, to relocate the monument. Terhaar instead wanted to make it more inclusive. The council also voted 7-0 to revert the name Lee Square back to its original name of Florida Square. Old maps show Florida Square was the original name of the parcel on North Palafox Street one block south of East Cervantes.

The monument won’t be coming down immediately; it will take the city some time to find a contractor to remove it to another location yet to be finalized. St. John’s Cemetery, which has numerous Confederate graves, is currently under consideration.

Tuesday night’s special council meeting went on for about five hours, with most of that time dedicated to public comment from both sides of the monument issue.

The Confederate monument at Lee Square will remain fenced off until it is removed; the area is now considered a construction zone.

Pictured: Pensacola City Council President Jewel Cannada-Wynn (top) and Mayor Grover Robinson (below) at a special meeting of the council Tuesday night. Pictured second below: Councilman P.C. Wu participated by video, as did Sherri Myers. Pictured bottom: The public was not allowed to attend the meeting in person, only remotely.

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118 Responses to “Pensacola City Council Votes To Remove Confederate Monument, Rename Lee Square”

  1. david lamb on July 20th, 2020 2:52 pm

    Grover, As a native Escambian, and Aggie, I enjoyed the trips to Pensacola I was excited to pass Lee square and the San Carlos hotel. I knew I was in Pensacola . I was proud to see the Confederate flag flying, not because of prejudice but because I am proud to be a Southerner. The history is there and will always be there and you can’t erase history. Tearing down building,renaming bridges, removing statues will not erase history. If you want to tear down statues there is a black hero that will have a statue and a bridge in honor of him. Everybody should read the autobiography of Chappie James 1st black General and a 4 star General upon his death. I am not opposed to the statues or the honoring of this great man. However, to build one statue honoring a great man of the past and tear down the statues and rename bridges honoring Civil War hero’s is wrong.
    What’s to prevent 50 years from now a new group to come in and tear down Chappie James statue? Remember history, Black Tribal Chiefs would sell Africans for trinkets and blankets due to no monetary system in Africa. They sold their own people to the stave traders much as the west did to the Indian when they first moved in.
    It is 2020 many decades have past during the Slave Trade Industry. This society is not responsible for the actions of the Slave Trade Period. Nor do I owe any compensation to today’s Black Lives Matter Group. They need to earn money the way I do “Work for it”.
    Twenty-three years in the United States Air force, being shot in Thailand, I served with good black military members being supervised by them. And supervising young black men myself, I enjoyed working with each one of them.
    After the AF, I drove motor coach across the US. I was fortunate enough to meet one of the last remaining Tuskegee Airmen. Remember the Tuskegee Airmen, they were an all black squadron of fighters, protecting the bomber planes taken into Germany. They were the only squadron of P51 fighters (all Black). They never lost one pilot. They trained in Tuskegee Al. America owes a great debt to these great Americans. Despite their being discriminated against, they helped to make America great.
    I am not prejudice. But, tearing down these statues and taking Confederate soldiers names off of things is not going to change history. It will always be there. However, it is destroying my heritage and causing me resentment against ” Black Lives Matter”. Remember the South was made up of Democrats who were Christian,God fearing, slave holders who more than society will say took care of their slaves. Right or wrong.
    Thank you, Signed……..
    A Proud Southerner

  2. Broken Heart on July 20th, 2020 12:21 pm

    I guess the Wall South will be torn down next. It may offend someone. Could Lee Square be sold to private citizens so we can protect it.

  3. Bob Silcox on July 19th, 2020 11:26 am

    I will definitely vote robinson out of office. What he is doing is against state and federal law.

  4. Estrella Nueva on July 17th, 2020 6:49 pm

    Judge Bergosh granted the emergency order. My great-great grandfather fought for the North and was shot and held prisoner by the South in Mississippi. But I support the rights of this county’s citizens to be included in decisions to keep their monuments and have no support for council members who violate federal, state, count and city ordinances and statutes. This is a civil comment but will probably be blocked because it is.

  5. Steve on July 17th, 2020 3:16 pm

    It’s just a statue. Worry more about whether not wearing a mask is going to kill someone you love.

  6. TG on July 17th, 2020 1:08 pm

    Sad. What other poor decisions are you clowns going to make?

  7. Maxwell on July 17th, 2020 11:13 am

    @Rodney Lindsey

    Where did you go to school. You did not attend school or slept through English glass.
    The fighter jets on display offend me also. They denote death and carnage but I know they will never be removed. When I see one I make myself think of rainbows and sunshine. Maybe people with hate in their heart should try this exercise when they think of Pensacola’s history.

  8. MiB on July 16th, 2020 11:17 pm

    Down with Galvez! He was a slave owner! Also a Conquistador! Take down all flags, because all were involved in the slave trade! Yes, Spain, France, and England were all slave traders; even before America! Pensacola should be city of no flags! Spain, France, and England should all pay reparations! Even to America, because they are the roots! Down With Galvez, Now!

  9. Canoe Highlands on July 16th, 2020 7:42 pm

    Boycott Pensacola…the Chamber of Commerce came out in support of this foolishness. I can’t recommend spending my hard earned $$$ in a town that it’s very
    Own COC stokes racial divisions by supporting this non-sense. Pensacola is a less friendly city to do business in after this because the people should have been given a say in the form of a referendum. The same big box stores are on the Eastern Shore and they will be getting my tax dollars from this point forward. A local business who usually spends a $1000+ a month at a Pensacola business told me he bought the same products at Sams in Baldwin County today because he was no longer spending his money in a city that offends his heritage….way to go mayor, council and chamber.

  10. Scarlet Ohara on July 16th, 2020 7:16 pm

    Grover, I never thought you would throw the people of Pensacola under the bus. I am 72 years old. I always looked at Lee Square as I came down Palafox especially when the spring flowers were in bloom. I will never forget the young Naval Officer in his dress whites on one knee asking his girl friend to marry him. I said yes!!. I have to stop writing now. I can not see through my tears. I have never and never will be a racist. But I love the history of this town .

  11. SP on July 16th, 2020 6:59 pm

    @Estrella

    Obviously yours. Seems like you’ve been indoctrinated into the lies already. Have you heard of the Lost Cause?

  12. Estrella Nueva on July 16th, 2020 6:08 pm

    Whose toes are you referring to?

  13. DAVID BEE on July 16th, 2020 5:16 pm

    LISTEN UP , BOYCOT ALL CITY BUSINESSES. VOTE OUT THE 5 TRAITORS AND FIND A NEW MAYOR.

  14. C.V. on July 16th, 2020 4:37 pm

    Several Groups just filed a Law Suit against the City Of Pensacola.Looks like the courts will be the ones that make this decision.

  15. Wise years on July 16th, 2020 3:55 pm

    The number of comments clearly points out that somebody’s toes are being CRUSHED

  16. Estrella Nueva on July 16th, 2020 3:53 pm

    Marxist, communist and socialist movements like removing our monuments will only bring more hardship to the cultures the movements have culturally misappropriated. It sows seeds of discord instead of unity which is what these groups want. The only knee I take is to my Lord and saviour. We got rid of bending a knee to people when we declared independence. These groups are attempting to elevate themselves above all others and the Council elevated itself above the voters in this county. Council members have had to resign in the past. Time for resignations again.

  17. LR on July 16th, 2020 10:10 am

    Is anyone really surprised at the outcome of the city council vote? Mayor Grover Robinson said after all call in and texted opinione were through, it was obviously a 50/50 opinion from all callers and texters. I missed something because I watched the whole 4 1/2 hours of meeting and I would say it was more like 90% against removing and 10% keeping the statue. Now I know why the city is so screwed up, our main leader can’t count . Andy Tehar is the only council member with kahunas. Other council members knew if it was voted on by the public in November, the resolution to remove would fail. My last point, how many Sunshine Laws does anyone think were broken in the last few weeks before the vote? I would love to see an investigation of this.

  18. ELW on July 16th, 2020 9:26 am

    Our history was there before we were here. As time goes on, it will be forgotten and new history will take its place. Someday, someone will destroy the future history of our country calling the reason whatever is the cause at the time. Its a shame that hundreds of years of history mean little to many individuals now. My thoughts are that the lack of teaching history in schools is not important anymore. Payback is hell. Don’t think I’ll be around to see it.

  19. BT on July 16th, 2020 8:53 am

    A lot of hyperbole happening around here. History being erased? You guys going to forget about the Civil War if there’s not a statue anout it? I know a lot about world war 2, but there’s no statue of Adolf Hitler downtown.

    I agree that it’s not going to change much. There’s still so much hatred in people’s hearts. When you use words like “they” and “them” we know who you’re talking about.

  20. j-go on July 16th, 2020 1:57 am

    Pensacola City Council people–you shall reap what you sow

  21. Brwildered on July 16th, 2020 1:10 am

    “MLK was a womanizer – take him down “
    Too funny – and so true. I lived in Memphis when he was shot on that motel balcony and his entourage scrambled to hide his lover before Coretta arrived from Atlanta.
    Turbulent times then also – Memphis was under marshal law – riots and looting!

  22. SP on July 16th, 2020 12:57 am

    I see we are still teaching/supporting The Lost Cause of the Confederacy…
    History isn’t always what you’re taught..

  23. D.O, on July 16th, 2020 12:21 am

    The city of no flags!
    Got a good ring to it
    I’m starting to think the word Pensacola is a racist term.
    IT MUST GO!!!
    Maybe just name it West, Florida.
    It is actually just a geographic term, no harm in that. Is there?
    That Welcome sign at the state line offends me!
    TAKE IT DOWN !!!
    Don’t get me started on the fighter jets on display, glorifying violence and death?
    Not sure I like the word Beulah….

  24. Rodney Lindsey on July 16th, 2020 12:15 am

    Wow some of you are out right mad and blame everyone except the hate in your hearts that your forefathers have cursed you with And you call it history but what it really is is hate and there’s no place for hate but hell . Now this is history it’s coming down and thanks to the bord even the one went against the vote we thank you to and you sir have made history as being the joker

  25. Rodney Lindsey on July 15th, 2020 11:52 pm

    To me Williams you say that you will be watching for us two come Tumbling down it’s sad that you can’t see that what you are looking for is happening to you right now

  26. Charlie on July 15th, 2020 11:29 pm

    On a related note regarding protestors, the man arrested for riding on the car hood over the bridge, is using the “Stand Your Ground” as his defense. Normally, he would most likely be laughed out of court for illegally blocking traffic on a public highway. However, with protestors now seeming violating all kinds of laws with no form of punishment, he may just get away with it.

  27. WFN on July 15th, 2020 11:23 pm

    Removing a monument, changing a flag, painting a mural on a street will NOT end or stop racism. What needs to change are people of ALL colors accepting people of ALL colors.

  28. vfw on July 15th, 2020 10:14 pm

    VOTE THEM OUT VOTE THEM OUT

  29. Eric on July 15th, 2020 9:34 pm

    PEOPLE!!!! Did you miss it? Scroll down and read David’s comment…now read it again!

  30. Lori O'Gara on July 15th, 2020 8:32 pm

    Erasing history by way of destroying the archives, spoken, printed, and tangible, creates forgotten lessons. We humans will forget and will repeat the chaos under the mantra of the greater good. Our past is not the enemy. It is the teacher, the guru, and the prophet. Learn from the mistakes of our history and do better. Be better humans

  31. William Bell on July 15th, 2020 8:23 pm

    Those who erase history are doomed to repeat it. Enjoy what you’ve done for I will be watching as your society crumbles and burns.

  32. Facetious Bob on July 15th, 2020 8:03 pm

    Consider Alfred Nobel. He invented dynamite in 1866. With all the good it has done, it has been used for some dastardly deeds, by anarchists, criminals, and some other just evil people.

    With this in mind should there not be a total recall of all Nobel Peace Prizes?

  33. Mem on July 15th, 2020 7:47 pm

    If Pensacola no longer wants this monument within the city limits can it be relocated to a community that would ?
    It is a shame to destroy something commemorative to the memory of fallen ancestors within the county and state .
    I would think there are multiple cemeteries in the county that would welcome this memorial to the grounds…

  34. BRING IT ON on July 15th, 2020 7:26 pm

    Most of what I’m reading on this topic, the point is being missed. Good or bad its our American history and tearing down statues and road signs ain’t gonna change a thing. You know the south gets blamed for a lot but did you ever stop and think why the north was so advanced ? If you all would pick up a book from time to time maybe it’s because they had already used slaves to advance themselves. Grow some thick skin and mind your own backyard.

  35. porter on July 15th, 2020 6:49 pm

    The city did the right thing. Kudos to them.

    Incredible to see people on here this drooling upset because a symbol of the Confederacy is being relocated. Another glorious “Lost Cause” for them to feel persecuted about…

  36. Larry corley on July 15th, 2020 6:17 pm

    I want to know what llc will remove this this part of escambia co.

  37. Caveman on July 15th, 2020 5:16 pm

    Plain and simple
    STUPID

  38. Look beyond on July 15th, 2020 4:57 pm

    @ stand with city council

    can you get it through your head it was a veteran caught up in a war on top of that monument?

    for example right now what if the west coast invaded the east coast because some one in government declared war and drafted you. If you didn’t go you would be imprisoned or if you ran shot as a traitor. Maybe you didn’t support the cause one way or another.

    As far as the Marxist agenda they use race to start a war and divide the citizens.

    lesson is we don’t need to be fighting among ourselves but we are because they are manipulators.

    The influence from the globalists is to take down the country and the blacks are being manipulated using their identity politics and rage.

    techniques are shaming sessions. Intimidation, removing cultural icons.

  39. DK on July 15th, 2020 4:56 pm

    Figures we all already knew what the city clownsil was going to vote can you say Puppet Master sad because unlikely this mayor will be re-elected?

  40. DK on July 15th, 2020 4:46 pm

    David a Big Thumbs Up on your post.

  41. David on July 15th, 2020 3:16 pm

    If the removal of all the concrete , brass , and stone ..would solve the racial issues I would be all for it.
    All the statues, carvings etc…are not racist
    Its people.
    People are their own worse racial dividers….all colors ..none exempt.
    And we are good at it it would appear
    The lack of intellect is astounding from everyone human on the planet
    Tear everything down….it will still be the same
    Pure total ignorance is on everyone

  42. yeahIsaidit on July 15th, 2020 3:12 pm

    I’m guessing next they will eliminate the direction South from the compass because they will somehow relate it to slavery.

  43. I stand with Pensacola City Council on July 15th, 2020 3:01 pm

    None of you are using your real names to say hateful things because you know you will lose your jobs and careers. Racism is built into the DNA of America. Why can’t we all agree that someone who owned and killed slaves should not be “honored” with a statue? And please stop comparing MLK to this, he was about peace and equality. He had dogs thrown at him, was sprayed with water holes, and went to jail over 29 times because he believed no matter what color you were, we are equal.

  44. David Huie Green on July 15th, 2020 2:32 pm

    REGARDING:
    “When are they going to remove the Martin Luther King statue at Palafox and Garden ?”

    Did he own slaves too? Down he goes!!

    Otherwise, the question is silly. I got no gripe with Robert E. Lee other than his competence made the war last much longer than it would have but I guess the real fault lies in the incompetence of his opponents. Still, those who are mad at him are mad because he was involved in a group who thought leaving the Union would let them keep slaves longer, even though that was not his goal. He just didn’t want to kill fellow Virginians. Had Virginia not fought with the Union, Lee would have stayed home in Arlington and they wouldn’t have had to turn that home into a graveyard.

  45. john on July 15th, 2020 2:21 pm

    We are ALL slaves. By the curse of sin we are forced to sweat and toil all the days of our lives. The curse of death constantly following us. Trapped on a round plantation that is dying in which we cannot escape but through death it is called Earth. I thank my Lord He has saved me. Through these uncertain times we live, my God is still certain. Nothing has ever occurred to Him. Life is a test. And there is only one way to win.

  46. Not surprised on July 15th, 2020 2:19 pm

    I came to read what I knew would be a lot of hateful comments and I was NOT disappointed! The people in this county/city are showing you who they are in these very comments! Take down their precious Confederate statue, people who wanted to keep this country SEPERATE and continue to own slaves…and you better take down Martin Luther King too, someone who wanted people to have the SAME civil rights. The two are not even remotely comparable. So why don’t you all just say what you want to say? If we can’t have a “white” statue then you can’t have “black” one. I’m truly disgusted, yet not suprised, that I am surrounded by this many hateful people who call themselves “patriots” and my “neighbors”. This is not a tit for tat thing. It’s about right and wrong. We should not have monuments of people of owned, abused, and quite possibly killed other human beings. How “good” and “patriotic” can you be when you do something like that? I know many people want to just sweep slavery and any race related issue under the rug like it never happened but it DID and race is STILL an issue today. And until we as Americans start acknowledging that, we are always going to be stuck at an impasse, repeating the same sad old “history”. When you know better, do better!

  47. American by birth on July 15th, 2020 2:14 pm

    The t.t. wentworth name is next…racist should never be honor and NO public monies should be spent to preserve or protect them. Those what wish to honor racist traditors to this country can continue to do so in your heart and homes…American is home to all americans…we all should be working to ensure ALL Americans have EQUAL opportunity. That is what makes us America.

  48. tg on July 15th, 2020 2:12 pm

    MLK was a womanizer take him down.

  49. BRING IT ON on July 15th, 2020 2:10 pm

    I’m ashamed that I am from Pensacola, a city that conforms to political pressure. They only protect history and heritage that suits narrow mindedness. Since they want history removed, then it’s time for streets, avenues, roads to go back to their original names and it should start with all marked MLK and then all marked with Spanish, Italian, French, German names and so on. Hey lets start renaming building’s, cities, states, and why not go a step further and remove ourselves because it seems a lot of Americans are evidently ashamed to be American. SHEEP NO MORE !!!!

  50. Yank on July 15th, 2020 2:03 pm

    Maybe the city council needs to be taken out. Just keep given to the few.

  51. EMD on July 15th, 2020 2:01 pm

    Marxists rule over us.

  52. J.Larry Seale on July 15th, 2020 1:35 pm

    this now shows that the minority now
    rule over the majory

  53. Sadiesmom on July 15th, 2020 1:30 pm

    You might as well put our History under the Obituaries column

  54. ensley boy on July 15th, 2020 1:11 pm

    It must be hard for all our leaders to walk upright without their backbone.

  55. Karen on July 15th, 2020 1:09 pm

    @Vw so did the Taliban.

  56. Dave Thomas on July 15th, 2020 12:39 pm

    Thanks to Andy Terhaar last night for standing up to the Mob. When are we going to start saying no and begin standing up to our proud heritage.

  57. I am a Lee. on July 15th, 2020 12:39 pm

    Robert E. Lee, who “when declining to an invitation to erect statues from the Gettysburg Battlefield Memorial Association, said, ‘I think it wiser not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavoured to obliterate the marks of civil strife and to commit to oblivion the feelings it has engendered.’” He wouldn’t have wanted the monument in the first place.

    To those saying history is being erased, what do you make of us going back to the square’s original, historical name? I find it beautifully ironic.

    History is important. To me, the memorial represents those (some of my ancestors) who fought and died for the Confederacy. Relocating this monument to a cemetery is a great idea. That will give it a place where we can still visit and learn. We need to learn from our past mistakes and stop embracing them. We are not still the Confederacy. It ended in 1865.

    Here’s where I stand: Something that does not represent my current values does not deserve such a prominent location in my city. (If this is your city too, you’ll get a vote for city council members. If it isn’t, you won’t.) Not everyone who supports its removal is offended by it. Rather, I ask myself, “Does this represent me? Does this make me proud to welcome people to my city?” Imagined tour guide voice: “As you look down the center of Palafox Street, there stands our Robert E. Lee memorial at the main entrance to our beautiful downtown.” Nope.

    Lee said that slavery is a moral and political evil. And yet, he owned slaves himself and defended slavery against abolitionist demands for immediate emancipation for all enslaved. What is a man if he doesn’t defend what is right? Lee ignored the pain of our black brothers and sisters, but I won’t. Sorry Grandpa, it is past time for morals to matter.

    I am full of hope knowing that many of us in Pensacola want to continue to move toward a future with more inclusiveness, more equality, and most importantly, more love.

  58. Matt on July 15th, 2020 12:38 pm

    @ Anthony. Ulysses S. Grant was a slave owner also. Doesn’t matter that it was only one or that he set him free, the fact that he owned him still stands. All of you people are ignorant. The precious Union mistreated and hated blacks right along with the Confederacy. Know your history before flapping your trap.

  59. pencil on July 15th, 2020 12:32 pm

    This is incredibly awesome!

    Thank you for finally bringing part of the south into the future.

    NW Florida has been stuck in a time bubble with most still not knowing how to even use computers so this is a pleasant surprise.

    Its a brave new world, don’t be afraid of improvement and change.

  60. terry on July 15th, 2020 12:26 pm

    IF ALL IT TAKES TO REMOVE ACONFEDERATE STATUE THAT HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE ALL OF YOU WERE EVER BORN ON THIS SO CALLED CITY COUNCEL IS A PETITION,,GET READY A PETITION TO REMOVE ALL OF M.L.K. STATUES ROAD SIGNS WILL BE COMING.IF THE CITY COUNCIL DOESNT REACT THE SAMEWAY IT DID TOWARD THE CONFEDERATE STATUE ,THIS is going to say alot about our mayor.

  61. Sherry Ewy on July 15th, 2020 12:20 pm

    Bunch of crybabies! You cannot erase history. Do you see ANY memorials to hitler? Has anybody forgotten his atrocities? His name lives on in infamy. So will general Lee. You do not need to hurt our neighbors with that offensive statue meant only to mock and shame and remind them of where you, their neighbors, consider their rightful place to be-beneath the feet of the confederacy. Grow the heck up and be better people. You need Jesus in your hearts. Your pastor has failed you.

  62. Sandy on July 15th, 2020 12:11 pm

    Soon the only statues in America that will be allowed will be of blacks. Hispanic, Italian, Greek, French, etc. will eventually come down I am sorry to say. Don’t yell prejudice at me because I have mixed heritage in my family currently.

  63. Charles on July 15th, 2020 12:09 pm

    When are they going to remove the Martin Luther King statue at Palafox and Garden ?

  64. IheartPcola on July 15th, 2020 12:09 pm

    This was a CITY issue not the county. I streamed the meeting and randomly googled the addresses giving and most all where outside the city limits. I had a feeling that was how it was going to go.
    Nobody is tearing down the monument only moving it. Its a so called monument to the dead so move it to where the dead lay. Renaming the square to its original historical name Florida Square that was wiped away when CITY counsel agreed to place the privately funded monument in that park and remove its history,
    Please learn about the LOST CAUSE movement of the time and the history of this monument.
    As for the Whats Next argument, that is the oldest argument in the book and has been applied to anything thing that has changed in our history since this country was founded.
    Oh what’s next…? letting Women vote or even black Women… wait we already changed that history with the 19th amendment in 1920 and the Voting Right Act of 1965 respectively. .

  65. Elb on July 15th, 2020 12:03 pm

    TAKE ALL STATUES DOWN INCLUDING MARTIN LUTER KING! IM OFFENDED BY IT. CHANGE STREET NAMES BACK IM OFFENDED. OUR CITY COUNCIL HAS NO BACKBONE. CAVE AGAIN! ONLY TOOK A PETITION TO TAKE IT DOWN. HOW ABOUT PETITION FOR REMOVAL OF MLK STATUES EVERYWHERE

  66. JOE SMITH on July 15th, 2020 11:53 am

    I could care less either way, lived here almost thirty years and never paid any attention to this statue. Question is, how do you pay for this? Seems like money could be spent on better things. Why not ask everyone wanting removal chip in a hundred or two?

  67. mat on July 15th, 2020 11:42 am

    The city council has offended me.
    Can we just erase them from history?

  68. Native son on July 15th, 2020 11:26 am

    Plaza de Luna needs to come down since he killed thousands of native Americans me being native American I think it needs to come down and am starting a petition. I think all of them need to come down including Dr king as I find it offensive to natives have been silenced with no voice for hundreds of years while people fight over what was our land before anyone’s . Killed our chiefs ,killed off our food sources raped our woman . And put the rest in camps you call reservation . On another note I’m glad we the people got to vote on how 10 million dollars would be spent so greatly …… Not improving schools , community centers , or starting a boys and girls club or updating parks for kids to play in . Maybey more testing for police reform to train not to have to use violence .instead let’s tear down a statue and rename it for 10 million dollars . What a waste of resources .

  69. michael holman on July 15th, 2020 11:19 am

    GET RID OF ALL WAR MEMORIALS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, THEY OFFEND SOMEBODY SOME WHERE.

  70. michael holman on July 15th, 2020 11:17 am

    gET RID OF mARTIN lUTHER KING ITEMS AND NAMES. iT IS RACIST.

  71. Wayne on July 15th, 2020 11:02 am

    Our city council is a bunch of typical politicians!!
    No guts or balls.Thank you Andy for standing up to these
    people.You are the only one who did not cower down
    and stood his ground.The rest are tearing apart
    this city and it’s history.Everyone cries slavery was the cause
    Of the Civil War.Not true!!The war was fought over States rights
    And taxation.Go figure.Change history to suit your cause.
    Can’t wait until the next city election!!

  72. Manda on July 15th, 2020 11:01 am

    THANK YOU PENSACOLA COUNCIL! Thank you for making a stand and doing the right thing! We will be there to vote FOR you in November!

  73. No Excuses on July 15th, 2020 10:59 am

    Wonder how long it will take to dig up the Confederate bodies in the cemetery and “relocate” them?

    Those who “forget” history are doomed to repeat it.

    Some Pensacola council members are teachers. Shame on you.

  74. Native 1950 on July 15th, 2020 10:52 am

    As for me, a hard working, tax paying citizen of Pensacola for all of my 70 years just ask since the mayor and city council have ‘decided’ to remove ‘our’ statue (probably at a cost of $45,000-$100,000) would just like to request this money come from their pockets…not ours!!! This should’ve been put on the November ballot…the mayor is supposed to work for us and WE the people should have been able to make such a decision! (ps…I’m well educated but please forgive the lower case ‘m’ when using the word Mayor!)

  75. Trisha on July 15th, 2020 10:45 am

    I still say we need to take the MLK bust down! I am sure City Council could find another location for it. I mean if you are worried about offending one group of people then don’t offend another group.

  76. Charlene R Ward on July 15th, 2020 10:44 am

    Make sure to rename Dr Martin Luther King Jr Drive, I am offended by the use of this name and no more MLK Holidays either. If we’re going to destroy History, make sure you don’t just pick on one race and not another!!!!

  77. MiB on July 15th, 2020 10:41 am

    Down with Galvez! He was a Conquistador! How many hundreds of thousands of Native Americans did he kill, rape, and enslave?! Down with the Spanish flag over Pensacola! The Spanish were also involved in the slave trade! Get rid of Galvez! Down with Galvez!

  78. john on July 15th, 2020 10:38 am

    @Rafael, I have visited many Civil War battle sites and monuments, statues, from Pennsylvania to Pensacola. I have yet to see any worshipping or human sacrifice or people leaving objects or trinkets, burning of incense and such to indicate any type of worship. Your attempt to attack the christian community in this area only show your ignorance of the Bible!

  79. Charlotte Rebecca Bates on July 15th, 2020 10:28 am

    The only hate is what you people are doing to history. You create our hate when you decide to take down our monuments, change names, why I about bet most of you on this board wasn’t even born in this city. I was. Raised here. You should not have the right to vote about this. The people should have that right. What is this going to prove? You can’t erase history no matter what you do. It’ll always be there. You may not teach it, but it’s always there. It’s like when you have a death in the family. Just because they died, doesn’t mean you forget them. Just like history. Just because you killed it, does not mean you forget it.

  80. NPC on July 15th, 2020 10:12 am

    Will taking down statues end gun violence, crimes associated with drugs or fatherless children? Will it help with poverty or failing schools in low income districts? Focusing on the past helps none of the present problems. The ignorant adjective is often used for those who are in disagreement with others opinions. True ignorance is being oblivious to problems that exist and are not being addressed.

  81. voter on July 15th, 2020 10:07 am

    then take down and move the MLK bust, it OFFENDS many people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  82. yeahIsaidit on July 15th, 2020 9:46 am

    Can’t wait to see what part of history they will erase next

  83. Larry corley on July 15th, 2020 9:46 am

    Vote! Next time do not stay home as your home is next!

  84. Rebear on July 15th, 2020 9:45 am

    When will people stop trying to hide history. George Washington owned slaves, so let’s get rid of his statues. Let’s blow up Stone Mountain, and Mount Rushmore. Let’s get rid of the Bible, because the Israelites were slaves to the Egyptians. This needs to stop.

  85. Mel on July 15th, 2020 9:43 am

    I will never vote for anyone who is interested in removing our history. I will always remember who if doing our country wrongly.

  86. Anthony on July 15th, 2020 9:19 am

    The square should be renamed to Grant Square. He was the last US president till Eisenhower to push for African American rights.

  87. Debbie Lee on July 15th, 2020 9:10 am

    This is so sad. They demand and the people in charge jump to please !!!
    ThankYou Andy Terhaar for your stand on this matter. It seems that only one
    Race matters to people in charge these days. We are definitely headed
    down the wrong path. This type of tyranny will never end until “We ALL the people”
    take a stand! God Bless America” and God Bless our history. We thrive and learn
    from our history good or bad.

  88. Getting Old on July 15th, 2020 9:10 am

    History is history it’s not the present so why go back a change everything. Taking down monuments, changing names what ever you do will not take hate away. After all this there will be something people will find to fight about. What if white people said change the name of the Gen. “Chappie” James bridge or Rosamond Johnson Beach which honors an African American hero because it offends me. This could go back and forth just to cause a divide and stir up hatred, it’s time to stop. We are all Gods children don’t you think he’s sadden by all this fighting.

  89. John on July 15th, 2020 9:07 am

    Sad. They didn’t want Costco to come to PNS, but they have time and energy to remove a monument which is part of the history and heritage of this area. This is why city and county consolidation is important.

  90. Truth Matters on July 15th, 2020 9:03 am

    Pensacola’s political elite could have allowed the masses to vote…
    Instead they have made sacrificial lambs of those who believe in Confederate heritage
    Upon an altar dedicated to lies and mob intimidation. My history record this city council
    As the sell-outs they are.

  91. James on July 15th, 2020 8:50 am

    The council had already decided this regardless of public comment.

  92. Randy Rickard on July 15th, 2020 8:39 am

    What’s done is done. I already knew how this was going to go. I just wish they could focus this much energy on supporting the young men and women in uniform. You know, real solutions to real problems. If this statue thing was brought to a public vote, it would stand forever. Welcome to Escambia County.

  93. ROBERT on July 15th, 2020 8:32 am

    Another group of spineless crybabies.Removing statues etc will never change history nor will it help race relations. It just causes a bigger divide….IMO

  94. ProuArmyParent on July 15th, 2020 8:23 am

    I’m so glad the Pensacola City Council doesn’t control Arrington National Cemetery, considering the fact it sits on the former Lee Plantation!
    Know your history people, Lee did not agree with slavery, he only fought with the South because he loved Virginia. You people have never loved or had loyalty for a thing in your lives. Except maybe Love of Hate!

  95. Sad Day on July 15th, 2020 8:22 am

    So sad to see our history erased and our leader cave in to the mob. So SAD!!

  96. tg on July 15th, 2020 8:17 am

    The Cancel Culture over the next few years are going to rename counties parishes high schools museums and american history will be erased. Not taught in schools anyway.Rome Is Burning.

  97. bill Moore on July 15th, 2020 7:56 am

    Glad I moved from pensacola , just continue to tear it apart…

  98. Mel on July 15th, 2020 7:52 am

    I will never vote for anyone supporting the removal of the history of our land. Period

  99. Niknak50 on July 15th, 2020 7:49 am

    And removing the statue does what? How is the quality of anyone’s life actually effected by its removal? Regardless of who or what any statue represents, you’ll never convince me it effects anyone to the degree they cannot engage in the pursuit of happiness with it being there.

  100. Vw on July 15th, 2020 7:47 am

    NAZI Took Down what they didn’t LIKE .. The Council is no better .. HISTORY is HISTORY. LEARN don’t HATE

  101. Scott F. on July 15th, 2020 7:42 am

    Very sad to see history trying to be erased. City council has no backbone. What else will make you cave in?

  102. sam on July 15th, 2020 7:32 am

    pitiful. if you don’t like history just erase it. hope all these folks get voted out of office.

  103. fisherman on July 15th, 2020 7:24 am

    Bunch of weaklings cowering down to a select few.It’s been 155 years since the end of the Civil War I think it’s about time that this Country come together start caring for one another.The America I once knew is going to hell right in front of our eyes and we stand by and let it happen out of FEAR!!! that we may offend someone.

  104. John Fields on July 15th, 2020 7:18 am

    Lets remove all monuments from downtown, and I mean all of them. We should not allow one without the others. Let’s erase all of history, not just pick and choose!

  105. StraightShooter white on July 15th, 2020 7:09 am

    Pensacola has a lot of problems with homeless, poverty, shootings, drugs. Someone please tell me how removing this monument will help solve any of these problems. To me is just deepens the divide.

  106. History down the tubes on July 15th, 2020 7:07 am

    Should have let the citizens of Escambia County vote on this!
    So much for a “government by the people and for the people”.

  107. Jimmy Wade Grayson on July 15th, 2020 7:06 am

    I guess Democrats will vote to get rid of the “Democrat” name of their party as it is the party of slavery and Jim Crow back in the 1800s and as early as 1965. Jim Crow laws were enacted by Democratic controlled legislatures. This is fact and history. The Democrat name should be erased from history as it is the party of racism. Google it for your own eyes.

    Republicans ended slavery that’s a fact.

  108. john on July 15th, 2020 7:00 am

    WOW!!!! They have just infinitely ended black on black, police brutality, racism, crimes in our county. Ok, after they find a contractor to take it down, let’s wait a year or two and examine the data!

  109. Rafael Lopez on July 15th, 2020 7:00 am

    I heard many invoke history last night during the citizenry comments. However, in the Bible, I seem to recall the people made idols and graven images to worship. And this angered God. Maybe we can now get back to strengthening our community and loving thy neighbor now that we are more aware.

  110. steve on July 15th, 2020 6:59 am

    For about 99.9999 % of the people it will have no effect on anything. To that .0001% was the person that cleaned it every now an again.
    It is just a sign of times. People want to be offended for others so bad that they willing to step on each other to be offended over nothing.

    What should offend people is the crime rate and violence… Thats something that needs work. But that is hard and is not something a simple minded person can handle, so pull down a statue… Thats easy and simple……

  111. JTV on July 15th, 2020 6:56 am

    Alright, let’s take down Tristán de Luna y Arellano next. We all know what those Conquistadors did. They conquered and enslaved every “New World” discovery they landed in, Native Americans tribes, Inca, Maya, Aztec, and hundreds of Caribbean inhabitants all for the glory of Spain. Let’s not hitch our wagon to these murderous conquerors. We’re better than that.

  112. bob c on July 15th, 2020 6:15 am

    What is next?
    Feel like folks are out turning over any rock they can find in search of something that may be found to be “Offensive”.
    Never saw anything like this in my many years.
    Now know true meaning of Witch Hunt or maybe more searching for their cauldron to demonize.
    Wish the effort, energy, time and funding of these ‘alphabet’ groups could be used for some GOOD things for our community and Nation.
    Dear Lord, PLEASE look over our USA and HELP US.

  113. bob on July 15th, 2020 6:11 am

    Spanish statues are all over Pensacola from top of hill on Palafox to the Plaza de Luna at the edge of the bay.
    When will folks get “Woke” about those?

  114. Disagree on July 15th, 2020 5:13 am

    Thoughts on BLM activists demand to remove this:

    The three pillars of identity politics gives one:
    an excuse to fail
    a reason to be angry
    someone to blame
    It absolves the ‘victim’ of any personal responsibility or accountability about their life choices.

  115. catman on July 15th, 2020 5:06 am

    This isn’t right in so many ways. Welcome to the United States of the Offended Pensacola. Sad.

  116. john on July 15th, 2020 5:00 am

    Just keep given in. Can not stand up for history.

  117. SouthFlomaton4ever on July 15th, 2020 1:33 am

    A sham decision by sham politicians. See you at the election polls.

  118. Larry Limle on July 15th, 2020 1:27 am

    PC Run amuck.. if you don’t remember your history you are doomed to repeat it.. if this is going to be the case let’s remove them all..