NRA: Nothing Wrong With Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law

March 27, 2012

National Rifle Association lead lobbyist Marion Hammer – one of the architects of the stand-your-ground law now figuring prominently in debates over the Trayvon Martin shooting death in Sanford, Florida – says she won’t be baited into arguing the merits of the law while the case is still being investigated.

In the wake of last week’s growing outcry over the fact that the acknowledged shooter, George Zimmerman, has not been charged, Gov. Rick Scott Thursday tapped an outside prosecutor to investigate the death and a task force to review the 2005 law.

Scott, too, says further action should await the results of the investigation.

And in any case, Hammer said Monday, “the law should not be on trial. The law did not do anything wrong.”

Members of the black legislative caucus have called for a review.

“I have seen the media predict that nothing will change,” Hammer said, “and that’s probably because the media understands that there’s nothing wrong with the law.”

The bill’s sponsors, Rep. Dennis Baxley, R-Ocala, and former Sen. Durell Peaden, R-Crestview, say the law was never intended to cover pursuit – as may have been the case in Martin’s death – but rather the defense of one’s home, the so-called Castle Doctrine.

“It is difficult to give an opinion when you don’t know the facts of the case,” said Hammer. “But based on what I have read in the media, the Castle Doctrine does not apply in this case.” New facts emerged over the weekend, however, that may make the so-called stand-your-ground law applicable.

Zimmerman’s lawyer said it was Martin who attacked Zimmerman, broke his nose and was banging Zimmerman’s head into the ground when he fired in self-defense.

The lawyer, Craig Sonner, told ABC News that he will argue self defense and the stand-your-ground law will likely apply.

By The News Service of Florida

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50 Responses to “NRA: Nothing Wrong With Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law”

  1. Lee on March 30th, 2012 6:56 pm

    I’m not even sure why such a law exists. Did we really need it? I mean, law or no law, if I had to defend myself or my family I doubt I’d be thinking about the ‘law’ at that moment.

  2. Wharf Rat on March 29th, 2012 6:52 pm

    Several commenters have referred to the victim (Martin) as a child. The three or four year old photograph shown in the news media does show him as a handsome young man, not a seventeen-year old. When I was a seventeen-year old, two days out of high school, and getting off a bus at Ft. Jackson,SC, I was called a lot of things, but none of them “child.”

  3. just tired on March 28th, 2012 9:59 pm

    After reading Rachel’s comment, I have to assume that she was there and witnessed the whole confrontation. I wonder has she been contacted by the investigator? Seems like she could get this whole thing cleared right up.

  4. David Huie Green on March 28th, 2012 5:20 pm

    Old Goldie,

    The rates are disproportional to population, yes. My response was to the claim of raw numbers — that more blacks are in prison than whites.

    They aren‘t.

    Further, if we assume as your article does, that crimes are created at the same rates by all people, then the Asians should be far more represented in the prison system than they are with Asians being 4.8% of the general population but only 1.6% of the prison population. That’s a third of what they should be!! Or restating it, there should be three times as many Asians in prison as there are.

    If we assume incarceration rate is related to actual commission of crimes, we have the question of why some have higher rates but at least the poor innocent Asians are off the hook.

    David seeking truth
    and understanding

  5. justice for all on March 28th, 2012 1:17 pm

    I dont know if this is about race or not but what i do know is that a innocent child was killed.I could care less what his color is,my concerned is that a child has lost his life for nothing.I have been reading the headlines,news,papers,etc and what i am confused about is why would he follow him if he did not see him breaking the law? I could have taken the killing a little better knowing that he saw him hurting someone,beating someone or breaking into a home,car or a store.But, the bottom line is the kid was walking,minding his own business and lived in the community.Regardless of what he was suspended for,i have kids and kids will be kids. Some of us grown folks struggle with breaking the law,drugs and stealing. No one is perfect!! I am sure Zimmerman has a background as well but that has not been disposed.I have a son and if he was walking from a store and was killed i would want justice also and i am sure all of you would feel the same.If Mr. Z had not followed this kid,the kid would be alive and well today.Mr Z has also lost his life bc he shot and killed a child,which is something i hope weighs on his mind each day.The ones that are protecting Mr Z rep,put yourself in his parents shoes.Im sure most of you have kids or grandkids.How would any of you feel,regardless of color if someone shot and killed them for nothing.Race,yes it has been a factor for a lot of years.Yes,some of the things that my black race are doing and saying are wrong.Yes, I am also black,but i dont see color,i see humans.God created us all.What is right is right AND wrong is wrong. FACT: The kid was walking. Mr.Z followed him,lost it for a moment(his mind),a struggle broke out,( i would have defended myself if i was Trayvon) and now a 17 year old is dead.Never will he have kids,never will he go to the prom,take vacations,go on family trips,get married or attend college.His life is over.Again,ask yourself,regardless of his problems in school,his tweets and facebook page,what would you do if your child died and was innocent? Lets stand up for what is right,not for color and lets have justice for all.

  6. NWFLA Linda on March 28th, 2012 10:35 am

    With all of the emphasis by the media, brilliantly enflamed by the Jacksons, Sharptons, black panthers, etc. on Mr. Zimmerman’s race and the comment by some black person that Trayvon was killed because he was WWB in a GC (walking while black in a gated community) – riddle me this. Barack Hussein’s mama was Caucasian; his daddy a black Kenyan. Zimmerman’s mama , I believe, is Hispanic; his daddy Caucasion. Barack is called black – Zimmerman is called white. Why is this not “a Hispanic shoots a black person” incident?

    At the same time, why aren’t all of these busloads of chanting protestors “no justice, no peace” hollering every time a black kills a black? Those black on black crimes are rampant. Instead, the response is always “I didn’t see nothing but the cops ought to do their job”.

    The truth will come out, all the evidence including eye witness statements will be released. Until then, it’s sad to see so many playing into the hands of those whose very existence depends on perpetuating hate crime emotions. And, if I was the family whose address got erroneously posted by Spike Lee in his “bounty” offer for Zimmerman, I’d have me a good attorney and be owning Mr. Lee. (no reference to slavery intended just alluding to results of modern day litigation’s monetary outcome)

  7. JM on March 28th, 2012 8:37 am

    The sad thing is it sounds like this was the perfect storm. Two wannabe’s
    who don’t know how to do the right thing. It happens all the time, there are shoot outs by people everywhere. This one just happens to be one black, one white and there you are the perfect storm for the media. I’m surprised we didn’t have a bad riot in the streets. We have been so unjust to black people for a century and half I almost don’t blame them. If THEY want justice they have always had to fight for it. Then I realize just how long it has been and how far they have come.
    THEY KNOW, they have a black president, WE ALL DO. NOW there is no reason
    to say everything is about prejudice and we all hate blacks, when we all know
    that’s a lie. That card needs to go away and people need to find a new one.
    I am a liberal so hate me it that’s your bag just remember this, hate is a poison that you swallow that only kills YOU. I am FOR, get that, this liberal is FOR THE STAND YOUR GROUND LAW. I am elderly and female and I want to be armed. As an elderly person I have been targeted over and over in my car, in parking lots, in stores and in my home. The police will tell you even if they follow you 30 miles to your house from inside the grocery store and sneak up and try to open your locked door without knocking that there is nothing they can do and that no crime has been committed, IT HAPPENED to me. I am just like JANE next time I will SHOOT to KILL if I am afraid and THEY are IN MY FACE. The bad guys all have guns these days so the rest of us need to have a good hand gun, know how to use it, be permitted to carry it and USE it.

    By the way I’m so sick of the LIB card , when people keep using these
    cards they just sound ignorant.

  8. SW on March 28th, 2012 8:23 am

    Funny, no serious discussion here of the Black Panther $10,000 reward (dead or alive) on Mr. Zimmerman or of the Spike Lee Tweets of Mr. Zimmerman’s address (albeit the wrong address and now innocent people may be in harm’s way).

    I fear a repeat of the Rodney King events.

  9. Jane on March 28th, 2012 7:43 am

    I had my home broken into, a great deal of painful damage done to my face by someone I had never seen before. It took over a year and a lot of medical and dental expense for me to heal. By the time the police got there the damage was done, the man was never caught. Now I sleep with a pistol by my bed, my car keys, my cell phone and a knife under the pillow. Some wounds never heal. And now you want to tell me I shouldn’t defend myself? Law or no law, if someone breaks into my home I WILL defend myself and everyone should have that right. The Constitution gives us the right to bear arms, not the NRA or anyone else.

  10. matt on March 28th, 2012 6:58 am

    @jen-”if Zimmerman killed anybody of another race do u think the same action would’ve been took?”…

    If Zimmerman killed anyone of another race we would not have even heard about it…

  11. Old Goldie on March 28th, 2012 5:43 am

    @ David Huie Green
    regarding “They aren’t. Your facts aren’t straight.”

    I think the link you posted gives info about Federal Prisons. I looked up several sites about state prisons and they all had similar stats to this report of 2005. Haven’t found a more recent one for state prisons. But this site http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=1863 gives the same info but is harder to read.

    Uneven Justice:
    State Rates of Incarceration
    By Race and Ethnicity

    Highlights of this analysis include:

    1. African Americans are incarcerated at nearly six (5.6) times the
    rate of whites;
    2. Hispanics are incarcerated at nearly double (1.8) the rate of
    whites;
    3. States exhibit substantial variation in the ratio of black-to-white
    incarceration, ranging from a high of 13.6-to-1 in Iowa to a low
    of 1.9-to-1 in Hawaii;
    4. States with the highest black-to-white ratio are disproportionately
    located in the Northeast and Midwest, including the leading
    states of Iowa, Vermont, New Jersey, Connecticut, and
    Wisconsin. This geographic concentration is true as well for the
    Hispanic-to-white ratio, with the most disproportionate states
    being Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, New York, New Hampshire,
    and New Jersey; and,
    5. States exhibiting high Black or Hispanic ratios of incarceration
    compared to whites fall into two categories: 1) those such as
    Wisconsin and Vermont which have high rates of black
    incarceration and average rates of white incarceration; and, 2) states
    such as New Jersey and Connecticut which have average rates of
    black incarceration and below-average rates of white incarceration.
    In both cases, the ratio of incarceration by race is higher than
    average.

  12. David Huie Green on March 28th, 2012 5:18 am

    REGARDING:
    “he was given orders to stay in his car and he didn’t ”

    Actually, he was asked if he was following the suspect. (He had already said the child looked suspicious because he was wandering in the rain, looking into the houses.) He said he was. They told him they didn’t need him to do that. He responded with, “Okay.” They asked him to meet the police at the mail boxes. He agreed again and requested the police call him when they got close. The 911 operator agreed.

    Not that it matters. This is the season when we remember to crucify whomever the crowd says crucify.

    David for Barabbas

  13. Old Goldie on March 28th, 2012 5:11 am

    What does a gun or any weapon have to do with the stand your ground law? Isn’t it a law that means you have the right to defend yourself against anyone you feel your life is threatened by? Even to the point of using deadly force whether they have a weapon or not? (hands can kill too)

    I agree Mr. Z probably had a super hero image of himself right on up to the point when his nose got broke and his head got banged into the pavement a few times. I bet the only thing he was thinking of then was protecting himself. The teen was about 5 inches taller and of course younger.

    I think the media should be using this as an example of what not to wear and how not to act in a situation like this instead of trying to stir everyone up about it. I swear it seems to me like they are wanting a race riot or something.

    It was first reported that Mr. Z was patrolling for a neighborhood watch because of recent break-ins in the neighborhood. Then I heard he was the only member of the neighborhood watch. Does anyone know any more about that? And today I head that Trayvon Martin had been suspended many times for anti-social behavior and this time for a few leaves of pot in a baggie found in his locker – which has nothing to do with anti-social behavior. But what was the women’s jewelry found in his back pack about?
    I agree Mr. Z should have quit following Trayvon when the 911 operator told him to but I do believe he acted in self defense when he shot Trayvon. But….if I had a nickle for every time I’ve been wrong, I’d be a multi-billionaire. Hopefully the truth will come out after the investigation and things will quiet down.

  14. jen on March 27th, 2012 10:12 pm

    well my main problem is that why havent this man been picked up and charge. no im not going to play to racist card but the action of the police department is not meeting the law to me. okay true this man was a neighborhood watch captain but he was gaven orders to stay in his car and he didnt and now a young man is dead. i do have one ? if he Zimmerman killed anybody of another race do u think the same action would’ve been took. R.I.P TRAYVON MARTIN

  15. Wharf Rat on March 27th, 2012 8:53 pm

    Does it not seem strange this same media, looking for blood, destroyed, and probably led to the early death of the Atlanta “Olympics bomber.” And, In another venue, the people demanding for the public lynching of Zimmerman, danced in the streets when O. J. Simpson was found “not guilty”?

  16. David Huie Green on March 27th, 2012 5:47 pm

    REGARDING:
    “And if you want to play the raciest game then answer this WHY ARE THERE MORE BLACKS IN PRISON THEN WHITES OR OTHERS. So until you get the story straight keep your raciest comments to your self. ”

    They aren’t. Your facts aren’t straight
    Per the Bureau of Prisons:
    http://www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp

    Inmates By Race
    White: 127,777 (59.0 %)
    Black: 81,314 (37.5 %)
    Native American: 4,039 (1.9 %)
    Asian: 3,521 (1.6 %)

    Of course as a percentage of population, they’re higher
    Per the Census Bureau: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html
    The breakdown of US population by race and ethnicity is:
    White persons, 72.4%
    Black persons, 12.6%
    American Indian and Alaska Native persons, 0.9%
    Asian persons, 4.8%
    Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, 0.2%
    Persons reporting two or more races 2.9%
    Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, 16.3%
    White persons not Hispanic, 63.7%

    So the real question is: Why are Asians under represented? Are the police prejudiced in favor of Asians??????

    David for equal justice,
    equal lawfulness,
    more Asians

  17. Anna on March 27th, 2012 3:09 pm

    since the biased left wing/biased right wing is just a phrase used… the “media” started the fire, giving the people what they want to hear, whether is was reported correctly or just speculation.

  18. Stephen on March 27th, 2012 3:02 pm

    I think that a lot is being made about race because that is what keeps Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson relevant in todays news. If Mr Zimmerman had done something great he would simply be Hispanic. Because it was a bad thing he is White-Hispanic. I happen to know my ancestry and it is Scottish-Native-and yes there is some African according to Ancestry.com so if I screw up. Who do I blame

    Proudly a Native-Afican-Scottish-American

  19. Jimbo on March 27th, 2012 2:55 pm

    @ Joseph. Sir, the 911 dispatcher is not a Law Enforcement person. As neighborhood watch Captain, Zimmerman was within his right to ask this young man who he was and why he was there. Is’nt that what neighborhood watch is about? The truth is going to come out and there will be those that can’t accept the truth. This Police cheif knew from the git-go that there was going to be trouble and that’s why he voluntarily stepped aside. Let’s stop “monday morning quarterbacking” this thing and let the investigators do their job.

  20. bob hudson on March 27th, 2012 2:19 pm

    So , who started the fire? A biased media. A biased left wing media.

  21. Anna on March 27th, 2012 1:58 pm

    All of these comments and the main point is sadly missed, Zimmerman was told to stay in his car until the AUTHORIES arrived and now all this confusion because of his mindset! Instead of offering prayer for ALL involved or coming together, people use these incidents to vent/post comments how they really feel black/white issues and continue to “feed the fire”! None of us was there, the media wasn’t there, the police wasn’t there, the only people that was there, one is dead and one is alive and his story is all we have!

  22. bob hudson on March 27th, 2012 1:46 pm

    Thank you Rachel, very well said.

  23. bob hudson on March 27th, 2012 1:13 pm

    Words for thought, bet you never hear a transplant receiver , asking ( what race did that come from? If the parts fit, then we surly must be the same.

  24. bob hudson on March 27th, 2012 12:58 pm

    Well I am going to over look those who do not know Eric Holders true anti-gun record. Second,I trust law enforcement’s call. They see it every day. I love the stand your ground law. Do you wish to be a victim? I do not. Now there may be a chance that the law could be abused. But that is why we have TRAINED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO MAKE THE CALL. Now the left wing media has jumped all over this, and par the course they only tell you what they wish you to hear.Wow, never hear about black on black crime(racist?), never hear about black on white crime (0r any other group)( racist?) So, why ? When a black youth is shot it is racist? And why is the media so quick to jump on it? Because it sells their version of the news. So now ,what if it is true that he was thug? Do you think the family will get a news retraction from any of these so called (media source’s)? You know what, may be its time to realize ,we are all people , and people do bad things. And I want some one to report on how many lives this law has saved, bet you will never get that out of the liberal media.

  25. Rachel on March 27th, 2012 12:53 pm

    I am proud to see so many of the people commenting on this story talking about the good that Stand Your Ground has done and the facts of this particular case. Trayvon got what was coming to him when he jumped Zimmerman from behind, hit him in the back of the head, broke his nose, bruised his face and chest, slammed his head into the pavement, and from the way it looks Trayvon knew Zimmerman had a gun and was reaching for it when Zimmerman had no other choice but to shoot. I have never seen such manipulation and lies from the media in my life. If one did not know what the facts are they would think that a young Jesus Christ was shot in the back by some monster. The Liberals could not wait to distort anything and everything to support their atacks on the 2nd Amendment, Castle Doctrine, and Stand Your Ground Laws. Last and certainly not least the media is not reporting the fires near railroad tracks in the city of Sanford that are being set by Trayvon supporters. When they find out that Zimmerman will not be charged I fear there will be riots.

  26. Joseph on March 27th, 2012 11:44 am

    The Stand your Ground Law seem like a good one.
    It no longer applied in Zimmerman’s case once he continued following the young man after being instructed by the dispatcher to NOT follow.

  27. YELLARHAMMER on March 27th, 2012 11:22 am

    I am sure that this young man that was shot isn’t an angel and netheir is the shooter but let justice do there job and resolve this issue. As for the President getting involved and all the marches settle down folks and let the system work. The law to defined yourself is correct and good this issue will be resolved.

  28. DB on March 27th, 2012 11:20 am

    I think anyone who says the NRA is to blame are idiots. And if you want to play the raciest game then answer this WHY ARE THERE MORE BLACKS IN PRISON THEN WHITES OR OTHERS. So until you get the story straight keep your raciest comments to your self. Sounds like this man was protecting him self from his attacker and I would do the same if in that situation.

  29. Bub on March 27th, 2012 10:54 am

    It seems like some folks want to cherry-pick facts to support their outrage one way or the other. The situation is more nuanced than we’d like it to be.

    It would be a whole lot easier if Mr Z were lily-white and gunned down Mr M in front of witnesses while screaming “I’m killing you because you’re black”.

    It would be a whole lot easier if Mr Z were standing on his front lawn minding his own business when Mr M jumped on him and started beating him.

    I don’t expect to change anybody’s mind…just wishing for cooler heads.

  30. George on March 27th, 2012 10:48 am

    Quote: Kathy on March 27th, 2012 8:45 am
    In Orlando, Fl 12 of the 13 cases of “Stand Your Ground”, the victim of the shooting did not have a gun on their body at the time of the incident.

    —-Totally irrelevant – If you think that being beat to death or stabbed is somehow morally better than being shot, you are mistaken.

    Quote: Mike on March 27th, 2012 9:42 am
    The NRA gun law is partially to blame. Since its been enacted, twice the number of people have tried to use it as a defense in clear cases of murder.

    Also irrelevant and deceptive – First, without you citing a source its difficult to impossible what the cases and comparisons are. Second, the beauty of this country is that you are able to “try to use a defense” when you are arrested – it’s then up the the states attorney and the jury to determine if your defense is a legitimate one (Or at least it should be)

  31. Sad on March 27th, 2012 10:31 am

    I wasn’t there, so I don’t know what happened. If Zimmerman was acting in self-defense, then nothing should happen to him. If he randomly wanted to kill this kid, then he should go to prison. Why does it have to be about race, though? Every day whites are killed by blacks, and you don’t see whites protesting and pulling the racism card. It’s a tragedy either way, and justice will be served. None of us were there, so we don’t know the full story. Let the police investigate and make the call.

  32. David Huie Green on March 27th, 2012 9:47 am

    REGARDING:
    “face it, he’s YOUR President, the Chief of this Country,”

    I love him like a brother and as my President. He’s done very well for a person whose father abandoned him and whose grandmother had to raise him. I would pray for his good health even if Joe Biden weren’t the Vice President. (Although I must admit that helps motivate me.)

    Nonetheless, he is not “the Chief of this Country.”

    He’s the commander in chief of the armed forces, but I’m not in the armed forces. He has power over the militia when in service, but I’m not in any militia. He has the power to compel Congress to meet, but I’m not a congressman. He has certain duties and powers under the Constitution and certain limitations under the Constitution. He has sworn “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

    He is free to give his opinion. He has a lovely wife and lovely children.

    He’s just not Chief.

    David for proper applications of laws
    and wisdom in our leaders

  33. Mike on March 27th, 2012 9:42 am

    Sounds like the guy was trying to hold the kid down on the ground until the cops arrive and got punched in the face as a result.

    The bottom line is, it wasn’t his property, he doesn’t own the entire neighborhood, the sidewalks and the streets . . . . no one had to answer to him and he didnt have the authority to arrest or detain anyone.

    The cops told him to stay away and as a result of him not following their orders, he’s responsible for WHATEVER happened after that both his own injuries and the death that he caused.

    The NRA gun law is partially to blame. Since its been enacted, twice the number of people have tried to use it as a defense in clear cases of murder. If you allow murderers to go free and claim self defense like this its only a matter of time before innocent people are shot on the regular especially now that the law is well known and on the front pages.

    Watch the number of copycat killings with people in the parking lot of the night club and everywhere else starts to rise. The law was good back when it applied to your home, property and vehicle but now that its extended to everywhere you walk, no one will be safe. Random shooters will just say it was self defense . . . . this is what’s called a slippery slope, you create a law expecting it to do one thing and then you have a group of killings a result of people doing the unexpected.

  34. darryl on March 27th, 2012 9:27 am

    Have to agree with a. b.: Zimmerman was an idiot with a hero complex who attack a teen and killed him. As to Zimmerman being bruised or having a broken nose, if some guy came after you wouldn’t you fight back?

  35. Big B little ill on March 27th, 2012 9:26 am

    People want to think the worst of Mr. Zimmerman because a young man was killed. Yes it’s very sad this has happened, a young man has lost his life. But what if the story is true that Trayvon attacked Mr. Zimmerman just as he said, what if Mr. Zimmerman didn’t have a gun, would Mr. Zimmerman be dead today. But I guess that would be OK with the black community, Al Sharpton, Jessy Jackson, Spike Lee, the New Black Panthers that are just a black KKK group. After all they never say anything about white kids being attacked by blacks. I like the stand your gound law.

  36. mc on March 27th, 2012 9:10 am

    This article is not about the case. Its about the law. I’m fairly liberal but if you come on my property and don’t belong, I will shoot you.

  37. a.b. on March 27th, 2012 8:53 am

    Bob Hudson,

    Had President Obama never weighed in on any of the recent social issues that have occurred lately, including the tornadoes in Tuscaloosa in which he and first lady Obama visited and walked through the streets, you would complain and say he’s “out of touch” with the things going on in our country… face it, he’s YOUR President, the Chief of this Country, whether you like it or not, if he’s not running the country the way you like, why don’t you run for President…and see how far you make it..get your qualifications up first, however…but if you’re qualified, shoot for the stars!!!!!

    I have always agreed with the Stand your ground legislation, however, you always have individuals who will mess up any good thing…and based on the facts of this case, Zimmerman is one of those individuals.

  38. Logically Speaking on March 27th, 2012 8:49 am

    Stand your ground can be good but when misused , it can obviously be deadly.

    By the way, If a man follows me, which has happened before and I’m a black woman, proceeds to get out of his vehicle to confront me and attacks me, then yes, I am going to scratch, punch, kick, beat his head in the sidewalk, and whatever else I need to do to protect myself, especially if he has a gun.

    Had he never stepped out of his vehicle, everything could’ve been avoided.

    Regardless of what this boy’s history was, it does not justify his killing.

    Zimmerman’s history, on the other hand, has everything to do with the case because we’ve heard from his own mouth recordings of things he has said and repeated calls he has made, in which he used racial slurs and stereotypes and his rap sheet, which includes, resisting the arrest of police, any jury would see that this is a potentially violent man.

    If the young boy had a gun on him, then the boy’s history would matter, the entire game would be changed, but he didn’t so Zimmerman is up the creek!!!!!

  39. Kathy on March 27th, 2012 8:45 am

    In Orlando, Fl 12 of the 13 cases of “Stand Your Ground”, the victim of the shooting did not have a gun on their body at the time of the incident. The last comment about President Obama was made in ignorance, the gun running in Mexico program started with George Bush. When you play blame you need to know the facts!!

  40. c.w. on March 27th, 2012 8:38 am

    Well, some of the facts are beginning to surface. The kid was a thug. Gold teeth, pants hanging down around his knees. Kicked out of school. It seem that he asked for and got his reward.
    Now the black panthers (sis) offer a reward for zimmerman. Just like the KKK, they are wrong and should be disbanded.

  41. bob hudson on March 27th, 2012 8:12 am

    Have you noticed that obama will weigh in on ever subject, from this to the Sandra Fluke case,about birth control, but will not weigh in on how to run this country? No wonder we are in the mess we are in. He thinks he is a news commentator . Kind of hard to blame gun violence on others while your Att, General is running illegal guns to Mexico.

  42. bob hudson on March 27th, 2012 7:59 am

    Well , you never hear the good the law has done. Nope the anti-gun liberals and media do not wish for you to know that. But the law was long over due and is one of the best laws passed lately.Proud to live in a state that has enough sense to make it a law.

  43. M. Allen on March 27th, 2012 7:34 am

    This man STALKED a 17 year old boy who only had a bag of skittle and a tea to defend himself. I don’t care that he had been suspended from school. I don’t even care that Zimmerman had a criminal background but if you follow me and then confront me and I’m FIGHTING FOR MY LIFE…and you outweigh me by 100 lbs, of course, I’m going to bite, scratch, or anything else I can do to save my life. I’m not debating the “Stand Your Ground” law. But, I am debating the justification of the murder of a child and why this murderer, this criminal is not in jail. #Justice for Trayvon Martin.

  44. T on March 27th, 2012 6:59 am

    The true picture of the ill gangsta has now come out,he’s not the lil angel they tried to make him out to be.Weed bag ,womens jewelry and a screw driver in he backpack,many problems at school,all the lil gangsta tweets he has sent NO ANGEL AT ALL.He beat Zimmerman down! now the libs are trying to use this to make money,inflame racism ,and remove the law the gives law abiding citizens the right to defend them selfs from these criminals .The lib media is showing his photo from years ago before his gangsta change,when he was I middle school,but they won’t show all the new photos of him all gangsta out,with the wifebeater,gold teeth and gritty face,becuase that doesn’t fit there story.

  45. George on March 27th, 2012 6:56 am

    Chicago Weekend Shootings: 10 Dead, At Least 40 Wounded…….
    The Chicago Sun-Times reports that most of the victims were in their mid-teens or early 30s, with the exception of 6-year-old Aliyah Shell, who was gunned down Saturday while playing in front of her home in the Little Village neighborhood.

    Anybody hear much about these shootings? No, and you won’t- because the media isn’t interested in reporting them because guns are ALREADY illegal in Chicago.

    The liberal medial and the usual activist groups have latched onto the florida shooting to use it as long as they can to weaken Florida’s gun laws.

    They can’t stand the fact that crime has DECREASED where citizens are allowed to protect themselves.

    Make no mistake, whatever the outcome for the shooter in this case – so called “Justice for Trayvon” is the furtherest thing from the medias mind……

  46. Jimbo on March 27th, 2012 4:59 am

    @huh… Tell me exactly what you would do if someone had you down on the ground and smashing you head into the sidewalk. In the beginning of this case, I thought the whole thing sounded very fishy. The media only reported that a man named Zimmerman had shot a black teen. The media flashed 2 year old pictures of the “victim” and I believed the teen had been wrongly “gunned down.”
    I also wondered why the Police had not arrested Z. Then as the truth started coming out, things became more clear. Mr. Z (according to sworn witnesses) was getting his head smashed in on a sidewalk and pummeled in the face when he finally got his gun out and shot this guy. What would you do? Would you allow someone to beat you un-consious before doing the only thing that may save your life? One last thing. It is said by Mr. Z’s friends that he has deep regrets over the shooting. I say, Mr. Z, you may not be around to have regrets if you had not pulled the trigger.

  47. Old Goldie on March 27th, 2012 4:46 am

    @huh

    Have you ever been threatened outside your home – on your own property? Have you ever had your house broke into while you weren’t there and your valuables stolen and walked into a ransacked house? These things have happened to me. My home has been broken into several times over the years. No one was ever caught. So I will stand my ground when threatened. If there could be one police officer per each citizen, we wouldn’t need this law. But the police can’t be everywhere at once and once called to an emergency, can’t get there that second. Just sayin’…..

  48. Molino-Anon on March 27th, 2012 3:55 am

    This man shot a thug that jumped him. This wasn’t some innocent straight A, student of the month, all American teen. This was a wanna-be thug, trying to injure someone just because they thought this person had issues with them.

    Some thug breaks my nose and starts banging my head in the pavement… yeah I’d shoot too. I was told long ago when I purchased my gun from a cop. If you use it to shoot someone in self defense, make sure they’re dead. In which case this man did and in self defense. Kudos.

    Of course the kids family is gonna think it was wrongful death, and their son was the sun that rose every morning and does nothing wrong. Can’t fault them for that… but to turn it into a race issue? Like a post made last week, when that is the only card you have to play, it’ll be played.

    And of course the media eats this stuff up and likes to twist it for news ratings.

  49. Jane on March 27th, 2012 3:50 am

    Any law can be mis-used. The problem isn’t with the law…it is with how it was mis-used and the outcome has been sad for everyone. Apparently Mr. Zimmerman decided to confront the young man, or vice versa, and that is what lead to this whole issue. I feel sad for the young man, for his family, for Mr. Zimmerman and his family, and for all of us who are arguing a case we actually know little about except various conflicting reports from witnesses and the news. The police should have handled it; Mr. Zimmerman should have stayed away and just called the police…hindsight is 20-20…but none of that happened. So sad. But do not blame a law that says I can defend myself in my home/on my property when attacked. As a woman I do not have the strength a man has to defend myself. But I will defend myself if necessary by whatever means are at my disposal, do not doubt that. Do not take that right away from me. Your rights stop where my toes start!

  50. huh on March 27th, 2012 12:24 am

    except the gunning down innocent people part





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