Pack Of Wild Dogs, Not Coyotes, Likely Killed Two Dozen Molino Goats

November 14, 2009

The Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission now says about two dozen goats found dead earlier in the week were not killed by coyotes but by a pack of wild dogs, and animal control officers are warning area residents to be careful.

goats2.jpgFWC officers said that coyotes will not typically attack animals larger than themselves, and other evidence in the Brickyard Road pasture pointed at dogs, not coyotes.

Molino pet owners are urged to take small pets inside at night at not leave them outdoors.

Wednesday night, Escambia County Sheriff’s deputies, Escambia County Animal Control and the Florida Department of Fish and Wildlife were dispatched to a pasture in the 6000 block of Fairground Road in Molino.

The owner of 20 goats — 12 adult and eight babies –  reported the animals to have been missing or dead in their pasture.  Deputies were able to locate the bodies of all eight baby goats and a few of the adult goats. While deputies Heath Cheatham and his partner were investigating, they saw what they believed to be two coyotes in the field.

“While in the pasture looking for the goats, we observed two coyotes to be walking through the wood line area of the pasture,” Cheatham sad in his report. “All of the goats that were located appeared to be killed as a natural act of predation by coyotes.”

A family’s domestic dog was also reportedly killed by the pack of wild dogs.

Comments

33 Responses to “Pack Of Wild Dogs, Not Coyotes, Likely Killed Two Dozen Molino Goats”

  1. lola crooke on May 17th, 2012 3:34 pm

    On May 16th or 17th of 2012 between 8: AM and 9; AM, I was driving East on Well Line Road toward HYWay 29. A wild dog ran accross the road at an astonishing rate of speed. I was near the area of the High Power lines at the time. He was so fast I barely caught a glimpse of him. My first thought was ‘fox’ but no. He was a bit larger than a fox, short haired and very sleek. I think his coat was a brownish grey.
    Anyone have any ideas?
    .

  2. Tom Smith on November 18th, 2009 7:32 pm

    Chupecabras are they in Nothern Escambia County? Will all I can say is there is something in those woods that make the wildest noise I have ever heard in all my 38 years of hunting. T.S.

  3. EMD on November 16th, 2009 8:52 pm

    No D. It was to Maddog and Mystery. Their initials are D and B. They are picking on pore little me. You haven’t been picking. I’m not mad with my friends. I pick on them too sometimes. Just having a little fun with them. I really did see the chupacabra though. I no longer go outside at night unarmed. Those fangs looked scary.

  4. Molinogirl on November 16th, 2009 7:48 pm

    It surprises me to hear they ruled out Coyotes. Especially after seeing a couple near there while investigating. I live off of Brickyard and hear Coyotes often at night.

    My Father in Law killed 17 Coyotes along with some other hunters who sit up one night watching for them. The Coyotes were attacking COWS! And killing them! They were killing deer also. So the theory of them not attacking something bigger than them is not true. Especiall when they are in packs. They will attack larger animals. And once they have the taste of blood will also attack people. Livinging in such a wooded area you really should watch your children and pets.

  5. D on November 16th, 2009 7:32 pm

    Yes, that’s a wonderful saying, never heard it before, but it makes sense. I was just a little concerned about the “aka B & D” part. Were you referring to my initial? Were you addressing that to me?

  6. EMD on November 16th, 2009 7:02 pm

    And my dear “Mystery” friend,

    You are living proof that I can always provoke a response from someone who believes that a truly unbelievable thing happened in that “Garden.” hee hee.” Touche’

  7. EMD on November 16th, 2009 6:56 pm

    D,

    I think it means that one day, you may be telling the truth and no one will believe you. A friends elderly mom used to say that, and I just like the way it sounds. Don’t you? >;D

  8. D on November 16th, 2009 6:24 pm

    EMD you lost me here at the end. You quit making sense in those last two comments. Maybe it’s just me. We get it that you think it was Chupacabras. But what are you trying to say about the siblings thing?? You’ve got my initial in there, so I have to ask?

  9. Mystery on November 16th, 2009 1:58 pm

    EMD,
    You are living proof that those Chupacabras can fool some of the people some of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but they can’t fool you.

    Could have been Chupacabras dressed in coyote costumes?

    Could have been aliens in UFOs. Anybody check for crop circles?

    Could have just been coyotes, a.k.a. wild dogs. Nah, that makes too much sense……………

  10. EMD on November 16th, 2009 1:32 pm

    Maddog and Mystery(aka B and D,

    I see great siblings think alike in some areas.

    Just remember: The sun don’t shine on the same chupacabras’ tale all the time. :D

  11. ? on November 16th, 2009 10:18 am

    OUR DOG WASNT LARGER THAN THE COYOTES THE ONE WHO WE THINK GOT KILLED WAS A VERY SMALL DOG AND THE OTHER DOG THAT WAS ATTACKED IS ONLY 2 1/2 TALL????? THE COPS SAID THEY WERE COYOTES.. THEY HAD A REDDISH BROWN COLOR TO THEM AND EVERYTHING… IM SURE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKIN ABOUT… WHEN THE ANIMAL CONTROL AND FWC WENT BACK IN THERE THEY DIDNT SEE THE COYOTES ANYWHERE… JUST THE GOATS… SO ALL IN ALL COYOTES DONT ATTACK ANIMALS LARGER THAN THEMSELVES SHOULD BE VOIDED OUT BECAUSE THE DOG’S WERE WAY SMALLER THAN THE COYOTES!

  12. Mystery on November 16th, 2009 7:50 am

    Maybe it was the mysterious 6′ 4″ blonde hair man who “SUPPOSEDLY” tried to attack the teen girls in their homes a couple weeks back. Seems about as likely as a pack of Chupacabras. LOL!!!!!!!

  13. D on November 16th, 2009 5:58 am

    Well if there were coyotes seen on the edge of the woods next to a goat masacre, it seems to me, the coyotes did the killing. Plain and simple.

  14. Heath on November 16th, 2009 1:31 am

    I have been hunting and an avid outdoorsman all my life. I have seen coyotes, wolves, wild dogs, foxes and every other type of wild game there is in the Southeastern U.S. What I saw in the edge of the field that night was a Coyote. He was only 40 yards away and had several bright flashlights lighting him up. It wasn’t a pitbull or a pack of wild dogs. There are coyotes in this area. I have seen them in the swamps of Escambia River. I guess the wild dogs killed the goats and left them for the coyotes to eat. Everyone can believe what they want to. I will believe what I saw.

  15. EMD on November 16th, 2009 12:36 am

    I wish someone had of checked those carcasses to see if any blood was left in them. If there was no blood……………..

    all I have to say is, “CHUPACABRAS!”

  16. art on November 15th, 2009 4:26 pm

    the coyotes in canada exhibited uncharacteristic behaviour by attacking the hiker/folk singer from nova scotia, canada. obviously she was larger than the coyotes so what was the deal? they weren’t pure bred coyotes as they had wolf blood in them.

  17. JUDY C. MASEK on November 15th, 2009 11:09 am

    my daughter has a very sweet female pit bull..along w/about 5 other dogs of different type breeds, (and 2 cats)…shes very strong, but VERY friendly….she was raised w/love and thats the key….hard to believe, for me even, that they can all get along, but they do…seems to me, that it most likely WAS a pack of roaming dogs, just out for some “fun” and “sport”…..thats what they often do when they get two or more loose dogs together…ive had several episodes of non-viscious dogs come and destroy (not eat) my chickens/roosters just for fun…its pitiful….if at all possible, .neighbors should contain/control their dogs, so that these type of senseless massacres do not happen…

  18. Maddog on November 15th, 2009 1:42 am

    It was pineville Bigfoot!

  19. livestock owner/exhibitor on November 14th, 2009 8:47 pm

    EVERYONE:

    You need to get real. Pit bulls are NOT bad dogs, and give any dog time and they can become wild! There was an inncedent of dogs attacking ocer 40 goats almost 2 years ago, i have a sheep in the yard that is proof of it! Her mom and twin where killed, and her vocal cords were injured!! And yes, my family and some of our family friends have lost cattle (mostly calves, the SAME size as goats) to coyotes. The truth is that it is a fact of life, and you have to deal with it. It is hard to loose livestock or any animal for that matter, and my thoughts are with the owner, because it is not easy to get-over or replace animals without emotion and/or expenses.

  20. AL on November 14th, 2009 6:40 pm

    “So do pits run in packs, or is it just neighborhood dogs out of control?”

    There is a website (escapes me right now) that lists dog attacks on people, livestock, domestic pets. It of course targets Pits and the like, but it also has where packs of mixed, Labs, Australian Shepherds, Aus Cattle dogs, etc have killed livestock. Don’t bash a breed out of hatred and ignorance.

  21. A. Davis on November 14th, 2009 6:40 pm

    Pack of wild dogs, I just don’t know. Neighborhood dogs out of control? I guess but you would think someone would report out of control dogs. I think most of us have known a dog in our life that was out of control and most of the time its not just sometimes out of control. Its awful this took place but If it was wild animals would it just be part of the food chain. I had a cat picked up by a hawk it wasnt nice but I guess the Hawk was hungry

  22. David Huie Green on November 14th, 2009 6:32 pm

    REGARDING:
    “People like you are why Pitbulls have a bad name.”

    I suspect the main reason pit bulls have a bad name is that every now and then one will rip a kid’s face off or kill somebody.

    (Off of Wikipedia: “The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published in 2000 a study on dog bite-related fatalities (DBRF) that covered the years 1979-1998. The report found that
    “the data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF (dog bite related fatalities) in the United States between 1979 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities.” ”

    Other than that minor detail, they are cute critters

    { Irritating as chihuahuas all are, at least they can’t eat you in less than a hundred nips}

    David thinking beagles and basset hounds are best

  23. everet on November 14th, 2009 3:17 pm

    do you need someone to “encounter “the killer animals?

  24. Walter on November 14th, 2009 12:31 pm

    I’m sure you guys have lovely pit bulls that you love and cherish. But I won’t come anywhere near one. Because Pits love their owners. That’s what makes them a great family dog. They are really smart and obedient. But then I come to your house and so much as walk over and playfully wrestle you in a kidding around manner, and the dog, thinking he is protecting you, turns fierce. It doesn’t mean you raised it wrong, it could happen with any dog that misunderstands what is taking place. But with a pit, they are strong and fast!! I feel the same way about Rotweillers. I feel this way through experience, not just guessing. I’m not trying to “dog” on anyones preference of dog, I just play it safe. I hope you never have a problem with yours. And Wolly, sounds like you know from experience through your friend and his goats.

  25. KEITH SINGLETON on November 14th, 2009 11:44 am

    Wolly,
    I don’t know how you can say it was Pitbulls when you haven’t seen any of the dogs. Pitbulls are GREAT family dogs and that is from a temper test on all breeds that Pitbulls was #2 in the test! People like you are why Pitbulls have a bad name. I have 7 Pitbulls and they are great with any kids or any people “They are not MEAN”! I take my dogs to dog shows and they are around 200 or so pitbulls and they all get along. Quit being negative in life and only say what you know is the truth! Thank You

  26. EMD on November 14th, 2009 11:21 am

    CHUPACABRAS

  27. to Wolly; on November 14th, 2009 10:52 am

    I don’t see how you can say “pits” are mean and evil hearted pretty much.
    I have a pit and she is as sweet as any other dog around, it all depends on how they are raised! So before you post your rude comments directed towards “pits” please direct it to the “MEAN and BADLY RAISED” pits!

  28. Neighbor on November 14th, 2009 9:08 am

    What I heard that night about 100 yards from my house was not dogs. Nothing that I know of yaps like coyotes and from the sound it was a pack.

  29. RBH on November 14th, 2009 8:33 am

    What about the coyotes that killed the 19 year old hiker in Canada? Doesn’t that show that coyotes will attack animals larger than them. They kill deer.

  30. David Huie Green on November 14th, 2009 7:47 am

    poor innocent coyotes

    wrong place

    wrong time

    blamed for the sins of wild dogs

    David pitying unjustly maligned predators

  31. eyes in the Bushes on November 14th, 2009 7:21 am

    Coyotes will attack cows I think they will attack goats as well, DUH!!!! , Coyotes are a problem and needs to be addressed the FWC, they go by since and not reality , when they come to our environment its time some thing is done by the FWC , and they say there are no BARES and PANTHERS in this area. PLEASE !!!!!!!!!
    LOL

  32. Wolly on November 14th, 2009 7:06 am

    If this was determined to be done by WILD dogs, then it was probably just dogs, not wild ones. Just fierce natured pit bulls. There is another goat owner on Fairground Rd that has lost many goats to Pit Bulls. He has been woken in the middle of the night to something going on in the field , ran outside and witnessed the killing of his goats and saw the pits with his own eyes. So do pits run in packs, or is it just neighborhood dogs out of control?

  33. Skeptical on November 14th, 2009 5:35 am

    The first report on this story that coyotes did this left me scratching my head wondering why coyotes. I’ve seen what domestic dogs gone wild can do to livestock and this incident seem more typical of that behavior, but not that of coyotes which only kill what is needed to survive.





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