Comments on: Push Continues To Widen Full Length Of Highway 164 Following School Bus And Tractor Crash http://www.northescambia.com/2024/05/push-continues-to-widen-full-length-of-highway-164-site-of-friday-school-bus-and-tractor-crash Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Wed, 08 Apr 2026 11:39:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Oversight http://www.northescambia.com/2024/05/push-continues-to-widen-full-length-of-highway-164-site-of-friday-school-bus-and-tractor-crash/comment-page-1#comment-541892 Oversight Mon, 06 May 2024 11:38:31 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=548005#comment-541892 Widening the road is the right thing to do and it likely had no affect for this crash, but "share the road" with ag equipment certainly would have. An impatient driver passing, especially a school bus full of students, is a dangerous prospect. I would like to see the video from the forward facing camera on the bus before I make a judgement who was actually at fault in this "passing" maneuver. Widening the road is the right thing to do and it likely had no affect for this crash, but “share the road” with ag equipment certainly would have. An impatient driver passing, especially a school bus full of students, is a dangerous prospect. I would like to see the video from the forward facing camera on the bus before I make a judgement who was actually at fault in this “passing” maneuver.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2024/05/push-continues-to-widen-full-length-of-highway-164-site-of-friday-school-bus-and-tractor-crash/comment-page-1#comment-541611 David Huie Green Sun, 05 May 2024 18:15:39 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=548005#comment-541611 REGARDING: "I don’t see how it is possible for a vehicle traveling in the same direction to be able to LAWFULLY pass in a lane that is occupied by oncoming traffic which the turning vehicle is waiting for? it is actually a confusing law" Break the sentence into multiple parts and consider the one seemingly applying here: "The driver of a vehicle intending to turn to the left within an intersection ... shall yield the right-of-way to any ... vehicles lawfully passing on the left of the turning vehicle, which is within the intersection or so close thereto as to constitute an immediate hazard. That should reduce any confusion. If you come to an intersection and wish to turn left but are being passed from behind, wait until it is safe to do so. REGARDING:
“I don’t see how it is possible for a vehicle traveling in the same direction to be able to LAWFULLY pass in a lane that is occupied by oncoming traffic which the turning vehicle is waiting for?
it is actually a confusing law”

Break the sentence into multiple parts and consider the one seemingly applying here:

“The driver of a vehicle intending to turn to the left within an intersection … shall yield the right-of-way to any … vehicles lawfully passing on the left of the turning vehicle, which is within the intersection or so close thereto as to constitute an immediate hazard.

That should reduce any confusion. If you come to an intersection and wish to turn left but are being passed from behind, wait until it is safe to do so.

]]> By: JJ http://www.northescambia.com/2024/05/push-continues-to-widen-full-length-of-highway-164-site-of-friday-school-bus-and-tractor-crash/comment-page-1#comment-541568 JJ Sun, 05 May 2024 16:35:42 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=548005#comment-541568 Betting the bus was traveling too fast to stop for the farmer and decided to goaround him. Glad a logging truck wasnt coming and the farmer was stopped for him. Betting the bus was traveling too fast to stop for the farmer and decided to goaround him. Glad a logging truck wasnt coming and the farmer was stopped for him.

]]> By: amazing http://www.northescambia.com/2024/05/push-continues-to-widen-full-length-of-highway-164-site-of-friday-school-bus-and-tractor-crash/comment-page-1#comment-541346 amazing Sun, 05 May 2024 03:07:59 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=548005#comment-541346 Assuming one is waiting to turn left due to ONCOMING TRAFFIC, I don't see how it is possible for a vehicle traveling in the same direction to be able to LAWFULLY pass in a lane that is occupied by oncoming traffic which the turning vehicle is waiting for? it is actually a confusing law.... Assuming one is waiting to turn left due to ONCOMING TRAFFIC, I don’t see how it is possible for a vehicle traveling in the same direction to be able to LAWFULLY pass in a lane that is occupied by oncoming traffic which the turning vehicle is waiting for?

it is actually a confusing law….

]]> By: Well http://www.northescambia.com/2024/05/push-continues-to-widen-full-length-of-highway-164-site-of-friday-school-bus-and-tractor-crash/comment-page-1#comment-541345 Well Sun, 05 May 2024 02:38:54 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=548005#comment-541345 Mr. Leonard, Why would School buses be passing on Hwy 164 ? It is an unsafe roadway after all. Mr. Leonard,
Why would School buses be passing on Hwy 164 ?

It is an unsafe roadway after all.

]]> By: JC http://www.northescambia.com/2024/05/push-continues-to-widen-full-length-of-highway-164-site-of-friday-school-bus-and-tractor-crash/comment-page-1#comment-541343 JC Sat, 04 May 2024 21:46:03 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=548005#comment-541343 Ah, but did the bus driver provide proper signal when initiating the pass as required in F.S.S. 316.083(1)(5)? 316.083 Overtaking and passing a vehicle, a bicycle or other nonmotorized vehicle, or an electric bicycle.—The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing of vehicles, bicycles and other nonmotorized vehicles, and electric bicycles, subject to those limitations, exceptions, and special rules hereinafter stated: (1) The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction must give an appropriate signal as provided for in s. 316.156, must pass to the left thereof at a safe distance, and must not again drive to the right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken vehicle. (5) Except when overtaking and passing on the right is permitted, the driver of an overtaken vehicle must give way to the right in favor of the overtaking vehicle, on audible signal or upon the visible blinking of the headlamps of the overtaking vehicle if such overtaking is being attempted at nighttime, and must not increase the speed of his or her vehicle until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle. Road width does play a part. Ah, but did the bus driver provide proper signal when initiating the pass as required in F.S.S. 316.083(1)(5)?

316.083 Overtaking and passing a vehicle, a bicycle or other nonmotorized vehicle, or an electric bicycle.—The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing of vehicles, bicycles and other nonmotorized vehicles, and electric bicycles, subject to those limitations, exceptions, and special rules hereinafter stated:
(1) The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle proceeding in the same direction must give an appropriate signal as provided for in s. 316.156, must pass to the left thereof at a safe distance, and must not again drive to the right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken vehicle.
(5) Except when overtaking and passing on the right is permitted, the driver of an overtaken vehicle must give way to the right in favor of the overtaking vehicle, on audible signal or upon the visible blinking of the headlamps of the overtaking vehicle if such overtaking is being attempted at nighttime, and must not increase the speed of his or her vehicle until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle.

Road width does play a part.

]]> By: Jason http://www.northescambia.com/2024/05/push-continues-to-widen-full-length-of-highway-164-site-of-friday-school-bus-and-tractor-crash/comment-page-1#comment-541218 Jason Sat, 04 May 2024 16:30:16 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=548005#comment-541218 @Confused.....per Florida Statute 316.122: 316.122 Vehicle turning left.—The driver of a vehicle intending to turn to the left within an intersection or into an alley, private road, or driveway shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle approaching from the opposite direction, or vehicles lawfully passing on the left of the turning vehicle, which is within the intersection or so close thereto as to constitute an immediate hazard. A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a moving violation as provided in chapter 318. @Confused…..per Florida Statute 316.122:

316.122 Vehicle turning left.—The driver of a vehicle intending to turn to the left within an intersection or into an alley, private road, or driveway shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle approaching from the opposite direction, or vehicles lawfully passing on the left of the turning vehicle, which is within the intersection or so close thereto as to constitute an immediate hazard. A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a moving violation as provided in chapter 318.

]]> By: Billrv http://www.northescambia.com/2024/05/push-continues-to-widen-full-length-of-highway-164-site-of-friday-school-bus-and-tractor-crash/comment-page-1#comment-541149 Billrv Sat, 04 May 2024 13:19:56 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=548005#comment-541149 All be it that the road needs to be widened this was a very avoidable accident, hopefully the Bus Drivers in the North end of the county are trained to understand they are in Farm country and should take the needed cautions related to farm equipment on the roads, I doubt very seriously that passing this tractor was going to make a significant difference in getting the wonderful Children home. Should have never happened All be it that the road needs to be widened this was a very avoidable accident, hopefully the Bus Drivers in the North end of the county are trained to understand they are in Farm country and should take the needed cautions related to farm equipment on the roads, I doubt very seriously that passing this tractor was going to make a significant difference in getting the wonderful Children home. Should have never happened

]]> By: Neighbor http://www.northescambia.com/2024/05/push-continues-to-widen-full-length-of-highway-164-site-of-friday-school-bus-and-tractor-crash/comment-page-1#comment-541140 Neighbor Sat, 04 May 2024 12:11:34 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=548005#comment-541140 Mr. Leonard, please also look at getting drivers education classes for Northview. Huge savings for families on their insurance. They can save up to $4-500 a year per child on their insurance. I have been told in the past this was not in the school boards budget. I am sure there are a lot of parents that would like to see that savings on their automobile insurance. Mr. Leonard, please also look at getting drivers education classes for Northview. Huge savings for families on their insurance. They can save up to $4-500 a year per child on their insurance. I have been told in the past this was not in the school boards budget. I am sure there are a lot of parents that would like to see that savings on their automobile insurance.

]]> By: Confused http://www.northescambia.com/2024/05/push-continues-to-widen-full-length-of-highway-164-site-of-friday-school-bus-and-tractor-crash/comment-page-1#comment-541137 Confused Sat, 04 May 2024 10:24:49 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=548005#comment-541137 How did the farmer fail to yield to traffic that was behind him? Am I missing something? How did the farmer fail to yield to traffic that was behind him? Am I missing something?

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