Probably not. We didn’t do it to her. Whoever did should probably be punished. But if we put them anywhere, we make that location more dangerous for others even as we make everyone else that much safer.

Who should we protect? The innocent or the predators? If we can not successfully protect all, that is.

David for simple choices

I forget which told us it was acceptable. Please remind me.

The ones I read seemed to be talking more like the concept of karma, that your own actions lead to your own suffering or your own actions lead to good things. And the Christian context of it is, As ye sow so shall ye reap.

None of them ever said that it should be set up to be that way. All of us should recognize that since we have no control over what people do within their physical confines, we can influence it but we cannot control them people will continue to be what they were most of the time. We know we cannot stop them outsmarting us or figuring out ways to hurt others. So it is likely that we will notice and comment on the fact that it is something really stupid when they ran such a risk.

Yes I can agree that thinking you can get away with killing other people and stabbing people is barbaric. And that’s the kind of people that you will be with if you are in prison even if every day every correctional officer and everyone else tells them that hurting other people is a no-no. Perhaps the people they are with tell them otherwise. Regardless, as long as one of them is willing to hurt others of them, being in prison is unavoidably dangerous. We do not have a way to stop them that I know of. Because they will not all cooperate.

That is why I mentioned the concept of isolating them through something like virtual reality worlds where they don’t come in contact with each other. I do not know if we have the technological ability at this point but it is a techno fix which might work at least somewhat.

And yes there’s little sympathy for those who showed no sympathy for others: As ye judge so shall ye be judged. We run the risk of being judged if we do something wrong even as they find themselves judged. On the other hand they DID something bad enough to get them placed in prison for the protection of other people. Griping at the non-sympathetic is unlikely to make them more sympathetic.

You will not get me to be very sympathetic toward bullies, killers, thieves, or any of the others who look at the rest of humanity as simply victims to extort and harm — and I actually try to be decent. So don’t expect the others to be even more sympathetic toward evil people. If they want to repent of evil, good for them. Let them do it and show it and most people will welcome them into the fold but they have to actually do it.

David for better people

If you read these comments, you will see people cheering (or at the least, apathetic) that these people were stabbed because “they committed crimes, so they deserve to suffer”.

Saying that being stabbed is an acceptable part of being in prison inherently makes the risk of being stabbed a part of the punishment of being sentenced to prison. That’s barbaric.

“they knew the risk they were taking when they broke the law”

There is a story up right now about a young woman being murdered at Mugs and Jugs. Did she deserve to die because “she knew the risk when she walked into the bar”?

Or do you only victim blame people when you know you won’t receive criticism from your neighbors?

@Tiffany you’re right they all belong to someone, so did the string of victims they left behind. And I challenge you to pull some name from inmate look up and they will have a criminal history so let’s stop acting like they only been caught once and it was only a mistake!!!!!

Misnaming what happened. We have no indication they were being punished for the crimes that got them sent to prison. It is at least reasonable at this time to assume they were involved with people who have committed crimes that got them sent to prison. I pointed out earlier that is one of the problems with giving someone a life sentence for murder or some other violent crime. They will be a danger to others around them and others around them will be a danger to them. If we could stop them from being dangerous, they would have never done the things that got them sent to prison in the first place.

The idea that you should have separate prisons for different crimes is interesting. Perhaps you could come up with some virtual reality goggles so each one would find himself in a different reality and then strap them down so they couldn’t kill someone else while they were in there or be killed by someone else. It might even be a good idea.

AND:
“They don’t pay the officers enough to deal with this;”

You have people who need supervision and people already have to be there who need jobs and job training. As has been pointed out, they are not all there for murder or some other violent crime. (Some may have committed those crimes for all we know but we usually don’t know.) Perhaps you could hire inmates to guard the inmates. If they do a good job your overworked situation should come to an end. If they do a poor job they may not last too long and you would have to try someone else at the job. But it is an opportunity and we all know that everybody needs an opportunity or two. Regardless it should be interesting. Pay them enough and money and privileges and you may find enough help to meet your needs.

AND:
“u should go play om the yellow line in the highway”

Pity for the criminal but not for those who dislike the burden criminals place on society. Effectively saying, “Go kill yourself.” Not a good attitude. “Agree with me or DIE!” Nope, not a good attitude.

David for better people

…and some of those inmates are guilty of money laundering or tax evasion.

Regardless of the crime, they were tried, convicted, and sentenced to time in prison. I can guarantee you that the sentence did not include “being stabbed to death by another inmate”.

Cheering for extrajudicial punishment of people you hate is obscene.

@Tiffany

Good on you for remembering the value of human life. That is a virtue that is becoming disturbingly rare in our community recently.