See? Simple solutions.

You forgot “or not take the job in the first place.”
You forgot “get an education so you can get a better job.”
You forgot they may have never left their parents’ homes in the first place, that they’re doing this for extra income and the experience and or the perquisites like sometimes free food.

I see you’re still on that “crime is caused by poverty” kick.
Correlation does not equal causation.

Never accepting the possibility that the things that lead to poverty may also lead to crime such as not thinking ahead, not applying yourself to the work at hand, not seeing honest and honorable opportunities.

Just as you excuse the man who drove from Alabama to Pensacola to kill a girl who WAS working as if poverty could have been a cause.
We are all poorer than Bill Gates therefore I guess we should ALL be committing crimes.

David for rationality

“If they are not, the employees are soon dead”

…or have to move back in with their parents. Or resort to crime to make up the difference. Or become homeless.

@C’mon, man

If you want to work part-time on weekends to earn some beer money? Sure. But the place where you’re working should pay *at least* enough to make sure that could afford the basics required for survival if you decided to work full-time.

Your position makes no sense. There are different kinds of jobs. Some are jobs for making a living. Others aren’t.

If they are not, the employees are soon dead. If the employees are not soon dead, then they did not have to have a living wage or what you call a living wage.

It has been pointed out some jobs are entry level jobs not intended to be an end. Some jobs such as for interns don’t even pay a dime, because the worker is being paid with the knowledge of how to do the job in a way that will pay it. Another obvious example is the homework teachers require students to do but do not pay the students to do it other than with a grade.

Admittedly they have to depend on someone else for funding, but they figure it’s worth it or they will not take the job. And then there’s also the question of who decides what it is and how they enforce it.

I mean if some kid comes up to my house and offers to mow my yard for let us say $20 (not that anyone has) while using my mower and my gas, knowing it’ll take him an hour or so, that may not be enough for him to keep a house and a car and whatever else you consider necessary for living. Yet he may still ask for the job (not that anyone has) because he wants the extra money. If I were to pay him, I might be found guilty of not paying a living wage by your whatever’s enforcement organization you have in mind even if you knew he could do 10 or 20 jobs a day. So it is safer for me not to offer any payment at all and just let it grow (which is what I usually do anyway).

Maybe every job should pay at least $100 an hour. I do not pretend to know and could certainly find use for the money. Also, what people need to survive in different parts of the world varies. To require everyone receive the same amount of money per hour would require a worldwide government with dictatorial powers. I am really not ready for a dictatorship yet. And I doubt the people we would have to conquer would like it and would probably kill us if we tried to force them. This would be a bad thing.

What people decide between themselves is their business not mine.

David for freedom

Yes. All jobs should pay a living wage.

Even fast food workers. Even janitors. Even teachers. Even the guys that work at ECUA.

If a job is so worthless that the person doing it doesn’t deserve to earn enough to keep a roof over their head? Then the job isn’t worth doing.

“what is a food service job supposed to pay?”

Enough to provide the workers with access to food, water, shelter, and the other essentials required to survive.

But sure. Let’s do some math. In Georgia, the minimum wage is 7.25/hr, and a Big Mac costs $5.15. In Washington, the minimum wage is $15.74/hr, and a Big Mac costs $4.49. Heck, in Denmark, McDonalds pays their workers a minimum of $22/hr and a Big Mac costs $4.79.

It’s almost like McDonald’s is a business that wants to make a profit, and will charge as much as possible while paying their workers as little as they legally can.

100%. You nailed it.

It’s funny how only the businesses that pay poverty wages seem to be having this “nO oNe wAnTs tO wOrK” problem, while the places that pay a decent wage aren’t having any issues finding workers.