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	<title>Comments on: Bergosh Wants To Add Paid Crew To Beulah Fire Station, Grow Volunteer Roster</title>
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		<title>By: MtnDewey</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtnDewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fie tax needs to be raised, especially commercial in this area.  new developments going up all over Beulah.  new firehouse needed and another substation between here and cantonment for your 9 hour crew. Station 2 is not sufficient for housing personnel, it is run down, needs to be able to house 2 companies full time. plus an EMS unit..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fie tax needs to be raised, especially commercial in this area.  new developments going up all over Beulah.  new firehouse needed and another substation between here and cantonment for your 9 hour crew. Station 2 is not sufficient for housing personnel, it is run down, needs to be able to house 2 companies full time. plus an EMS unit..</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Dayton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Dayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you truly want to solve the problem and do it in the fairest manner, then there is only ONE solution...and it begins with doing away with the MSBU method of raising money for fire services. 

The MSBU is the MOST regressive of any property taxation as it shifts the largest percentage of the burden to the people with the least ability to pay the cost. It eats away at the homestead exemption quietly until there is no benefit to having a homestead exemption on your property. This affects not only people with homes valued under $75,000 but also unfairly shifts the burden to seniors, retirees, others on fixed incomes. 

In blunt terms...the better off and rich get a free ride on the backs of the people with lower incomes. 

It&#039;s also the type of taxation that&#039;s the easiest abused by the powers-that-be continuing to treat it as a piggy bank to be raided at will. &quot;Just raise the fire fee...it&#039;s only another $25 or $50&quot; has become the BCC cry ever since year #3 of the fire fee being instituted.

The fire service fee should be a tax based on a millage rate and NOT a &quot;flat fee per property&quot; method. I&#039;m sure the people with new $200k plus homes and the owners of million-dollar condos at the beach would disagree that they should have to pay more than someone with a 25-year-old mobile home and lot or a $50k house in any one of the many older subdivisions in Pensacola...but would you really expect them to EVER think they should pay their fair share for anything?

Jeff Bergosh understands these issues and it&#039;s one of the reasons he is so adamantly against EVER raising the MSBU again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you truly want to solve the problem and do it in the fairest manner, then there is only ONE solution&#8230;and it begins with doing away with the MSBU method of raising money for fire services. </p>
<p>The MSBU is the MOST regressive of any property taxation as it shifts the largest percentage of the burden to the people with the least ability to pay the cost. It eats away at the homestead exemption quietly until there is no benefit to having a homestead exemption on your property. This affects not only people with homes valued under $75,000 but also unfairly shifts the burden to seniors, retirees, others on fixed incomes. </p>
<p>In blunt terms&#8230;the better off and rich get a free ride on the backs of the people with lower incomes. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also the type of taxation that&#8217;s the easiest abused by the powers-that-be continuing to treat it as a piggy bank to be raided at will. &#8220;Just raise the fire fee&#8230;it&#8217;s only another $25 or $50&#8243; has become the BCC cry ever since year #3 of the fire fee being instituted.</p>
<p>The fire service fee should be a tax based on a millage rate and NOT a &#8220;flat fee per property&#8221; method. I&#8217;m sure the people with new $200k plus homes and the owners of million-dollar condos at the beach would disagree that they should have to pay more than someone with a 25-year-old mobile home and lot or a $50k house in any one of the many older subdivisions in Pensacola&#8230;but would you really expect them to EVER think they should pay their fair share for anything?</p>
<p>Jeff Bergosh understands these issues and it&#8217;s one of the reasons he is so adamantly against EVER raising the MSBU again.</p>
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		<title>By: Time for Major Changes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Time for Major Changes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After seeing this article and doing some research of the ECFR services.  It looks as if there are many issues in the ECFR and  a Major change needed to both the leadership of the ECFR Management and the way the BCC looks at all Public Safety as a whole.

At this time seeking a New Fire Chief maybe a good thing, but how much change will they be allowed to make and how will the BCC and County Administration support a new Fire Chief to fix all the issues?  As it seem in the past few new chief&#039;s were hired only for them to see what they are told never happens and move on as well.  Why would any one seek to come here to take over a system that has all the issues that ECFR has. in Manpower, Aged Trucks, Poor Budget and so on..  

Can anyone blame any Firefighter for leaving for better pay and surely better benefits. Has any one in the County looked into what it really costs to hire new Firefighters only to have them move to a better paying department in a few years.. We all have left Jobs for a better position to provide for our families.

Looks like the BCC has been trying to run the ECFR since 2008 and since then been having issues going on.  May be time to do the right thing and have a Professional Consulting Service come in and see what has to be done to make the ECFR a properly working Department in the County. Yes it will cost money but having outsider taking a in depth look and follow their recommendations will save money in the long run for the County..   .  

I feel the time for the citizens to come out and let the commissioner how they feel that the Public Safety is in need of an overhaul and a budget to support the needs of the ECFR not just when a crises arise and do a quick fix.

Citizens Safety is nothing to be taken lightly as it seems to be now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After seeing this article and doing some research of the ECFR services.  It looks as if there are many issues in the ECFR and  a Major change needed to both the leadership of the ECFR Management and the way the BCC looks at all Public Safety as a whole.</p>
<p>At this time seeking a New Fire Chief maybe a good thing, but how much change will they be allowed to make and how will the BCC and County Administration support a new Fire Chief to fix all the issues?  As it seem in the past few new chief&#8217;s were hired only for them to see what they are told never happens and move on as well.  Why would any one seek to come here to take over a system that has all the issues that ECFR has. in Manpower, Aged Trucks, Poor Budget and so on..  </p>
<p>Can anyone blame any Firefighter for leaving for better pay and surely better benefits. Has any one in the County looked into what it really costs to hire new Firefighters only to have them move to a better paying department in a few years.. We all have left Jobs for a better position to provide for our families.</p>
<p>Looks like the BCC has been trying to run the ECFR since 2008 and since then been having issues going on.  May be time to do the right thing and have a Professional Consulting Service come in and see what has to be done to make the ECFR a properly working Department in the County. Yes it will cost money but having outsider taking a in depth look and follow their recommendations will save money in the long run for the County..   .  </p>
<p>I feel the time for the citizens to come out and let the commissioner how they feel that the Public Safety is in need of an overhaul and a budget to support the needs of the ECFR not just when a crises arise and do a quick fix.</p>
<p>Citizens Safety is nothing to be taken lightly as it seems to be now.</p>
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		<title>By: M in Bratt</title>
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		<dc:creator>M in Bratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If rampant development is so great, how come it costs the rest of us so much money?All the new development should be paying for the necessary improvements to infrastructure and services that are required to serve them.  Look across the river at Santa Rosa County, they recently put a $5000  impact fee on new residential building permits for school infrastructure.  The builders and developers don&#039;t like it, but it hasn&#039;t slowed new construction down.  But I am afraid that  would not work in Escambia County because the BCC seems to be loyal only to the Fat Cat builders and developers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If rampant development is so great, how come it costs the rest of us so much money?All the new development should be paying for the necessary improvements to infrastructure and services that are required to serve them.  Look across the river at Santa Rosa County, they recently put a $5000  impact fee on new residential building permits for school infrastructure.  The builders and developers don&#8217;t like it, but it hasn&#8217;t slowed new construction down.  But I am afraid that  would not work in Escambia County because the BCC seems to be loyal only to the Fat Cat builders and developers.</p>
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		<title>By: J.Larry Seale</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.Larry Seale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2021 02:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I beloved county comm really
cared about full time fire protection
for the follks of Escambia county,
they would take a 10% paycut and
use the money for fire protection,
You want see a commersion out riding
with them to see how bad this county needs
full time firefighters</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I beloved county comm really<br />
cared about full time fire protection<br />
for the follks of Escambia county,<br />
they would take a 10% paycut and<br />
use the money for fire protection,<br />
You want see a commersion out riding<br />
with them to see how bad this county needs<br />
full time firefighters</p>
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		<title>By: fisherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>fisherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 22:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joe
     I guess you will be applying for a job bagging groceries. Good luck!!!!
  On a more serious side I have said many times raise the amount for fire service protection to cover a paid fire department and be done with it once and for all. When I see a fireman I thank them for doing a great job and ask why they became a fireman all have told me that&#039;s what they have always wanted to do. That includes you ladies also. My question to Joe is why did you become a fireman if you are one? You had to know the pay scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe<br />
     I guess you will be applying for a job bagging groceries. Good luck!!!!<br />
  On a more serious side I have said many times raise the amount for fire service protection to cover a paid fire department and be done with it once and for all. When I see a fireman I thank them for doing a great job and ask why they became a fireman all have told me that&#8217;s what they have always wanted to do. That includes you ladies also. My question to Joe is why did you become a fireman if you are one? You had to know the pay scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 22:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody needs a first responder till they’re the ones calling 911 with an emergency. There’s no one whining here about it. Just bringing light to the real issues we’ve all known about but continue to ignore. Just sayin’</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody needs a first responder till they’re the ones calling 911 with an emergency. There’s no one whining here about it. Just bringing light to the real issues we’ve all known about but continue to ignore. Just sayin’</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly get tired of people complaining about other people complaining about public servants being underpaid for their training and job description. If it really is that bad, just keep scrolling. Quit whining about it. 

(Also really tired of the phrase “Just Sayin’”)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly get tired of people complaining about other people complaining about public servants being underpaid for their training and job description. If it really is that bad, just keep scrolling. Quit whining about it. </p>
<p>(Also really tired of the phrase “Just Sayin’”)</p>
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		<title>By: JustSayin</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustSayin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 18:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly get tired of seeing the but I only make 10 an hour. If it was truly that bad then why on earth would you stay? Find a job that provides a better salary for your family. Quit whining about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly get tired of seeing the but I only make 10 an hour. If it was truly that bad then why on earth would you stay? Find a job that provides a better salary for your family. Quit whining about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 14:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, those people who buy at OLF will be double taxed for
Fire service. Kind of a disincentive, isn’t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, those people who buy at OLF will be double taxed for<br />
Fire service. Kind of a disincentive, isn’t it?</p>
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