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	<title>Comments on: Pensacola Asks U.S. Supreme Court To Hear Bayview Park Cross Case</title>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 04:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to use that park daily when I lived on that side of town. I am a Christian and even though I knew it was there, I never really nooticed it. Its tucked in the corner not visible from the rest of the park. I don&#039;t understand what the big issue is...that our tax dollars pay the park service to weed eat around it once a month? I mean, either the offended literally have nothing else to complain about or they just see an opportunity to get famous and make a buck over this. I see lots of things in daily life that I don&#039;t like or feel offended by...but I just keep going and I don&#039;t waste time on it, cause I have better, more important things to do. If I happened to be in another park and see something I didn&#039;t like...I would just go to another park lol, it not the only one in the city. Of its something of value to another person, I&#039;m not going to whine and bitch and complain and make them remove it....I just simply won&#039;t use the area. The world doesn&#039;t revolve around me, nor anyone else&#039;s offended feelings. I think this boils down to a group of emotional people who can&#039;t control their feelings and therefore, everything must be catered to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to use that park daily when I lived on that side of town. I am a Christian and even though I knew it was there, I never really nooticed it. Its tucked in the corner not visible from the rest of the park. I don&#8217;t understand what the big issue is&#8230;that our tax dollars pay the park service to weed eat around it once a month? I mean, either the offended literally have nothing else to complain about or they just see an opportunity to get famous and make a buck over this. I see lots of things in daily life that I don&#8217;t like or feel offended by&#8230;but I just keep going and I don&#8217;t waste time on it, cause I have better, more important things to do. If I happened to be in another park and see something I didn&#8217;t like&#8230;I would just go to another park lol, it not the only one in the city. Of its something of value to another person, I&#8217;m not going to whine and bitch and complain and make them remove it&#8230;.I just simply won&#8217;t use the area. The world doesn&#8217;t revolve around me, nor anyone else&#8217;s offended feelings. I think this boils down to a group of emotional people who can&#8217;t control their feelings and therefore, everything must be catered to them.</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth will set you free</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Truth will set you free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 04:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@simmer down TS mean I think I know who you are and your initials are TS.

After that I repeated myself.

I think the best thing is to Google the 11 court and read about the case for yourself. ..anybody who is reading this.
 The 82 page appeal is enlightening. 

Read what Rabun is and why is should he overturned and contemplate the possible consequences if it is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@simmer down TS mean I think I know who you are and your initials are TS.</p>
<p>After that I repeated myself.</p>
<p>I think the best thing is to Google the 11 court and read about the case for yourself. ..anybody who is reading this.<br />
 The 82 page appeal is enlightening. </p>
<p>Read what Rabun is and why is should he overturned and contemplate the possible consequences if it is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Simmer Down</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simmer Down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2018 03:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ alex  I respect your opinion, beliefs, and the way you communicated them.

@ The Truth  1) What does AKA TS mean?  2) If you&#039;re concerned about tax money, the prudent thing to do is remove the cross.  The lawsuit goes away and taxpayers don&#039;t have to pay for the upkeep and lighting of the cross.  3) I am not offended by the cross or &quot;In God We Trust&quot; on our currency.  I don&#039;t think it belongs there, and I would have it removed if I could, but I&#039;m not offended by it.  I am offended that the state forced schools to spend taxpayer money to put &quot;In God We Trust&quot; in a prominent place in every school.  4) I&#039;m not a Constitutional scholar like you seem to be, and I didn&#039;t use the phrase &quot;separation of church and state&quot; in my earlier posts.  I do think the 1st Amendment tries to keep the government from favoring any religion, religions, or lack of religion.  The government paying for the upkeep of the cross, among other things, seems to favor one religion.  Again, I&#039;m no scholar.  What does the 1st Amendment tell us about religious freedom? 
 Educate me, please.  Thanks!  5)  What&#039;s not a theory?  You rambled a bit. 

@ Tabby  So acting unethically to keep the cross where it stands is appropriate?  Do all of the Christians reading this message board agree with Tabby?  

Peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ alex  I respect your opinion, beliefs, and the way you communicated them.</p>
<p>@ The Truth  1) What does AKA TS mean?  2) If you&#8217;re concerned about tax money, the prudent thing to do is remove the cross.  The lawsuit goes away and taxpayers don&#8217;t have to pay for the upkeep and lighting of the cross.  3) I am not offended by the cross or &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; on our currency.  I don&#8217;t think it belongs there, and I would have it removed if I could, but I&#8217;m not offended by it.  I am offended that the state forced schools to spend taxpayer money to put &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; in a prominent place in every school.  4) I&#8217;m not a Constitutional scholar like you seem to be, and I didn&#8217;t use the phrase &#8220;separation of church and state&#8221; in my earlier posts.  I do think the 1st Amendment tries to keep the government from favoring any religion, religions, or lack of religion.  The government paying for the upkeep of the cross, among other things, seems to favor one religion.  Again, I&#8217;m no scholar.  What does the 1st Amendment tell us about religious freedom?<br />
 Educate me, please.  Thanks!  5)  What&#8217;s not a theory?  You rambled a bit. </p>
<p>@ Tabby  So acting unethically to keep the cross where it stands is appropriate?  Do all of the Christians reading this message board agree with Tabby?  </p>
<p>Peace!</p>
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		<title>By: Tabby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tabby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Simmer Down
Either way, it&#039;s what needs to be done to block idiocy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Simmer Down<br />
Either way, it&#8217;s what needs to be done to block idiocy.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the athiest groups is Freedom From Religion Foundation out of Wisconsin.  They are the same group that pushed to remove the nativity scene in Century and Jay a few years back. Most of their comments are of hate and belittling of any one believing in our Lord. Chech out their web page and their face book page. chi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the athiest groups is Freedom From Religion Foundation out of Wisconsin.  They are the same group that pushed to remove the nativity scene in Century and Jay a few years back. Most of their comments are of hate and belittling of any one believing in our Lord. Chech out their web page and their face book page. chi</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth will set you free</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Truth will set you free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Simmer down (AKA TS)

This has nothing to do with inclusion. This has to do with removal.

This has to do with whether an offended person has *standing* or not-- to tie up the court systems for a pay check from tax money that should be used else where. They are like ticks on a hound dog. Parasites.

This is about the Constitution first amendment and IT IS going to the supreme court and needs to be heard. That horse has left the barn.

Not a time for compromise. The mayoral candidates are blowing smoke to sit on the fence for votes.

Does &quot;In God we trust offend&quot; you on a dollar bill? Well then lets turn them all in and it will cost too much to print more let&#039;s just go full electronic. The that is way a hit to the power grid or internet will stop us dead in their tracts.

The free thinker, pagan, christians, jews and nones and all others need to see this.

This particular plaintiff has already announced they are standing by to file law suits all over the country. Do you in your critical thinking mind think this has to do with ethics of separation of church and state, which BTW is NOT in the constitution.

Google Vero Beach. Brevard County.

Look at what the Democrats are doing for the Supreme Court nomination.

It&#039;s not a theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Simmer down (AKA TS)</p>
<p>This has nothing to do with inclusion. This has to do with removal.</p>
<p>This has to do with whether an offended person has *standing* or not&#8211; to tie up the court systems for a pay check from tax money that should be used else where. They are like ticks on a hound dog. Parasites.</p>
<p>This is about the Constitution first amendment and IT IS going to the supreme court and needs to be heard. That horse has left the barn.</p>
<p>Not a time for compromise. The mayoral candidates are blowing smoke to sit on the fence for votes.</p>
<p>Does &#8220;In God we trust offend&#8221; you on a dollar bill? Well then lets turn them all in and it will cost too much to print more let&#8217;s just go full electronic. The that is way a hit to the power grid or internet will stop us dead in their tracts.</p>
<p>The free thinker, pagan, christians, jews and nones and all others need to see this.</p>
<p>This particular plaintiff has already announced they are standing by to file law suits all over the country. Do you in your critical thinking mind think this has to do with ethics of separation of church and state, which BTW is NOT in the constitution.</p>
<p>Google Vero Beach. Brevard County.</p>
<p>Look at what the Democrats are doing for the Supreme Court nomination.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a theory.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@simmerdown
 
I may be offended by other religious symbols but I would not tell them to take it down. I would ignore it because my God is stronger. He is in charge and their symbols mean nothing to me. they are empty signs of not knowing Jesus, if it comes down  or stays up they have already lost. I read the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@simmerdown</p>
<p>I may be offended by other religious symbols but I would not tell them to take it down. I would ignore it because my God is stronger. He is in charge and their symbols mean nothing to me. they are empty signs of not knowing Jesus, if it comes down  or stays up they have already lost. I read the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Simmer Down</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simmer Down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Tabby,

Will they make sure the lease looks fair and impartial, or will the lease actually be fair and impartial?

The first is possible but unethical.  The second is ethical but impossible.  You&#039;re in favor of the first option, aren&#039;t you?

Peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tabby,</p>
<p>Will they make sure the lease looks fair and impartial, or will the lease actually be fair and impartial?</p>
<p>The first is possible but unethical.  The second is ethical but impossible.  You&#8217;re in favor of the first option, aren&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Peace!</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Farklestone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Farklestone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Towering cross-shaped monument on public land is unconstitutional, court rules&quot;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/towering-cross-shaped-monument-on-public-land-is-unconstitutional-court-rules/2017/10/18/b26e4afe-5b47-11e7-9b7d-14576dc0f39d_story.html?utm_term=.d63ac55a2045</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Towering cross-shaped monument on public land is unconstitutional, court rules&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/towering-cross-shaped-monument-on-public-land-is-unconstitutional-court-rules/2017/10/18/b26e4afe-5b47-11e7-9b7d-14576dc0f39d_story.html?utm_term=.d63ac55a2045" rel="nofollow">https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/towering-cross-shaped-monument-on-public-land-is-unconstitutional-court-rules/2017/10/18/b26e4afe-5b47-11e7-9b7d-14576dc0f39d_story.html?utm_term=.d63ac55a2045</a></p>
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		<title>By: Simmer Down</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simmer Down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one question for the people who support keeping the cross where it is:  Would you have the same conviction if it was a Star of David or the symbol of any other religion?

If you honestly would defend another religion&#039;s symbol you&#039;re still wrong, but at least you&#039;re not intolerant.

People who think the cross should be removed are not necessarily Communists, as Tabby so delicately opines, nor are they necessarily tooma&#039;s cloven-hoofed pagans.  I am neither, and I think the cross should be removed because, in my opinion, it conflicts with the Establishment Clause of the Constitution by unduly favoring one religion.  Again, in my opinion, protecting the Constitution is most important, because the Constitution also has a Free Exercise Clause which guarantees your right to hold whatever religious beliefs you choose.  If you want to get rid of the Establishment Clause, you have to let go of the Free Exercise Clause too.

Peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one question for the people who support keeping the cross where it is:  Would you have the same conviction if it was a Star of David or the symbol of any other religion?</p>
<p>If you honestly would defend another religion&#8217;s symbol you&#8217;re still wrong, but at least you&#8217;re not intolerant.</p>
<p>People who think the cross should be removed are not necessarily Communists, as Tabby so delicately opines, nor are they necessarily tooma&#8217;s cloven-hoofed pagans.  I am neither, and I think the cross should be removed because, in my opinion, it conflicts with the Establishment Clause of the Constitution by unduly favoring one religion.  Again, in my opinion, protecting the Constitution is most important, because the Constitution also has a Free Exercise Clause which guarantees your right to hold whatever religious beliefs you choose.  If you want to get rid of the Establishment Clause, you have to let go of the Free Exercise Clause too.</p>
<p>Peace!</p>
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