Comments on: Florida Prison Visitation Changes Spark Outcry http://www.northescambia.com/2018/06/florida-prison-visitation-changes-spark-outcry Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Fri, 10 Apr 2026 15:38:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mike Honcho http://www.northescambia.com/2018/06/florida-prison-visitation-changes-spark-outcry/comment-page-1#comment-366015 Mike Honcho Wed, 06 Jun 2018 01:27:19 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=326474#comment-366015 Great spin Great spin

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2018/06/florida-prison-visitation-changes-spark-outcry/comment-page-1#comment-365961 David Huie Green Tue, 05 Jun 2018 00:03:54 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=326474#comment-365961 REGARDING: "if I remember right you give up your rights the second you commit a crime." Not really. Even if convicted, you have the right to not face cruel and unusual punishment. You have the right to not be forced to confess. You have the right to an attorney. You have the right to adequate health care, to food and clothing and shelter, to speech and religion, to be free from discrimination. They are not allowed to torture you. (That was why President Bush wanted to keep prisoners in Cuba, so he could lawfully torture them. The Supreme Court said he couldn't even do it there. That made the prison there a waste of money.) Punishment can't be excessive for the crimes you committed. These rights are not always respected. David for truth REGARDING:
“if I remember right you give up your rights the second you commit a crime.”

Not really. Even if convicted, you have the right to not face cruel and unusual punishment.

You have the right to not be forced to confess. You have the right to an attorney. You have the right to adequate health care, to food and clothing and shelter, to speech and religion, to be free from discrimination. They are not allowed to torture you. (That was why President Bush wanted to keep prisoners in Cuba, so he could lawfully torture them. The Supreme Court said he couldn’t even do it there. That made the prison there a waste of money.) Punishment can’t be excessive for the crimes you committed.

These rights are not always respected.

David for truth

]]> By: Mike Honcho http://www.northescambia.com/2018/06/florida-prison-visitation-changes-spark-outcry/comment-page-1#comment-365949 Mike Honcho Mon, 04 Jun 2018 20:10:23 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=326474#comment-365949 Sorry but it's kind of hard to feel bad for someone when they make the choice to break the law and have to deal with the consequences. If not seeing there family is such a big issue maybe they should have made better choices. And if I remember right you give up your rights the second you commit a crime. Sorry but it’s kind of hard to feel bad for someone when they make the choice to break the law and have to deal with the consequences. If not seeing there family is such a big issue maybe they should have made better choices. And if I remember right you give up your rights the second you commit a crime.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2018/06/florida-prison-visitation-changes-spark-outcry/comment-page-1#comment-365880 David Huie Green Sun, 03 Jun 2018 22:52:38 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=326474#comment-365880 REGARDING: "folks who are on supervision and probation have violent crime and drug crime at about 25% which means that once somebody interfaces with this system it is the dopes and mopes who are refilling our prisons" Nope. Supervision and probation means they are NOT in prison. It doesn't mean they will automatically return. And those who are in prison are still above 50 percent. You can not have 55.6 percent violent and 50 percent nonviolent. Check any math book. David for truth and numeracy REGARDING:
“folks who are on supervision and probation have violent crime and drug crime at about 25% which means that once somebody interfaces with this system it is the dopes and mopes who are refilling our prisons”

Nope.

Supervision and probation means they are NOT in prison. It doesn’t mean they will automatically return. And those who are in prison are still above 50 percent. You can not have 55.6 percent violent and 50 percent nonviolent. Check any math book.

David for truth and numeracy

]]> By: Susan http://www.northescambia.com/2018/06/florida-prison-visitation-changes-spark-outcry/comment-page-1#comment-365838 Susan Sun, 03 Jun 2018 02:34:07 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=326474#comment-365838 Michelle Henderson....access to high end clothing? The incarcerated should be happy to see whomever makes the effort of their time and money to come spend time with them. They don’t “need” high end clothing. Michelle Henderson….access to high end clothing? The incarcerated should be happy to see whomever makes the effort of their time and money to come spend time with them. They don’t “need” high end clothing.

]]> By: Michelle Henderson http://www.northescambia.com/2018/06/florida-prison-visitation-changes-spark-outcry/comment-page-1#comment-365819 Michelle Henderson Sat, 02 Jun 2018 18:02:42 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=326474#comment-365819 Unbelievable. How can they take away a person's rights gaurenteed by the Constitution. Cruel and unusual punishment is prohibited by law. Denying inmates to be able to see their families is cruel and unusual. They need this to be able to see that they can change and do better in society. Inmates need to be able to have the access to high end clothing and meals inside prison. It will help them rehabilitate and see that they have something good to live for. We need to advocate for change and demand governor Scott provide high end materials to inmates. I don't mind paying more taxes for better care. Unbelievable. How can they take away a person’s rights gaurenteed by the Constitution. Cruel and unusual punishment is prohibited by law. Denying inmates to be able to see their families is cruel and unusual. They need this to be able to see that they can change and do better in society. Inmates need to be able to have the access to high end clothing and meals inside prison. It will help them rehabilitate and see that they have something good to live for. We need to advocate for change and demand governor Scott provide high end materials to inmates. I don’t mind paying more taxes for better care.

]]> By: Grand Locust http://www.northescambia.com/2018/06/florida-prison-visitation-changes-spark-outcry/comment-page-1#comment-365804 Grand Locust Sat, 02 Jun 2018 13:17:48 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=326474#comment-365804 50% non violent folks filling up the prisons, and if you look at the so called facts in the link you see the volume of folks who are on supervision and probation have violent crime and drug crime at about 25% which means that once somebody interfaces with this system it is the dopes and mopes who are refilling our prisons as violent criminals have cart blanch on our neighborhoods. Stupid is what stupid does. Children being denied visitation with their fathers is brilliant......there must be a brain trust at the state where they have a dart board with sanctions they can put on inmates to make politicians and the lynch mob happy.......throw the dart and land on take children visitation with their imprisoned fathers.....yea that is the ticket.......and I think there is a category on the dart board which says treat them like they live in Angola......brilliant. 50% non violent folks filling up the prisons, and if you look at the so called facts in the link you see the volume of folks who are on supervision and probation have violent crime and drug crime at about 25% which means that once somebody interfaces with this system it is the dopes and mopes who are refilling our prisons as violent criminals have cart blanch on our neighborhoods. Stupid is what stupid does. Children being denied visitation with their fathers is brilliant……there must be a brain trust at the state where they have a dart board with sanctions they can put on inmates to make politicians and the lynch mob happy…….throw the dart and land on take children visitation with their imprisoned fathers…..yea that is the ticket…….and I think there is a category on the dart board which says treat them like they live in Angola……brilliant.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2018/06/florida-prison-visitation-changes-spark-outcry/comment-page-1#comment-365794 David Huie Green Sat, 02 Jun 2018 07:21:42 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=326474#comment-365794 When I was in Angola -- the country, not the prison -- the people were allowed to visit their inmates daily. They brought meals for them to eat. I asked didn't the government feed them? Yes, but only fish heads and rice. If they wanted more, they needed a loved one to bring it. Unless they REALLY liked fish heads and rice, they were VERY careful to be VERY nice. It was interesting. David for rice and being nice When I was in Angola — the country, not the prison — the people were allowed to visit their inmates daily. They brought meals for them to eat.

I asked didn’t the government feed them?
Yes, but only fish heads and rice. If they wanted more, they needed a loved one to bring it.

Unless they REALLY liked fish heads and rice, they were VERY careful to be VERY nice.

It was interesting.

David for rice and being nice

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2018/06/florida-prison-visitation-changes-spark-outcry/comment-page-1#comment-365793 David Huie Green Sat, 02 Jun 2018 07:05:09 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=326474#comment-365793 REGARDING: "Half the people in prison are NOT violent criminals, but are dopes and mopes with serious addiction problems." Nearly true. 55.6% for violent offenses as of November 30, 2017. Drug related: 14.3% rather than 50% (usually in the form of organized crime in distribution. dhg) http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/Quickfacts.html Let their families pay whatever it costs to let them stay with their beloved felons and let them stay with them forever if they wish. And if they don't, let the felons understand their loved ones opted to not stay rather than making the state the bad guy. Let's be honest about their crimes, though. David for extended stays with murderers and rapists REGARDING:
“Half the people in prison are NOT violent criminals, but are dopes and mopes with serious addiction problems.”

Nearly true. 55.6% for violent offenses as of November 30, 2017.
Drug related: 14.3% rather than 50% (usually in the form of organized crime in distribution. dhg)

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/Quickfacts.html

Let their families pay whatever it costs to let them stay with their beloved felons and let them stay with them forever if they wish. And if they don’t, let the felons understand their loved ones opted to not stay rather than making the state the bad guy.

Let’s be honest about their crimes, though.

David for extended stays with murderers and rapists

]]> By: mike http://www.northescambia.com/2018/06/florida-prison-visitation-changes-spark-outcry/comment-page-1#comment-365788 mike Sat, 02 Jun 2018 05:31:16 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=326474#comment-365788 Oh boohoo! Prison is punishment, not a daycare center. Raise your kids to respect the law instead of teaching them to hate and fear cops maybe they won't go to prison. Oh boohoo! Prison is punishment, not a daycare center. Raise your kids to respect the law instead of teaching them to hate and fear cops maybe they won’t go to prison.

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