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	<title>Comments on: New Traffic Signal Equipment Installed At 16 Escambia County Intersectons</title>
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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2018/05/new-traffic-signalequipment-installed-at-16-escambia-county-intersectons/comment-page-1#comment-385077</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2019 01:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sufficient traffic signals and left turning lanes need to be added to intersection at Kingsgield road and Palafox badly. This is not by any means a safe intersection for anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sufficient traffic signals and left turning lanes need to be added to intersection at Kingsgield road and Palafox badly. This is not by any means a safe intersection for anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: p</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2018/05/new-traffic-signalequipment-installed-at-16-escambia-county-intersectons/comment-page-1#comment-364701</link>
		<dc:creator>p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2018 00:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Richard. Once you get through the Kingsfield light, you have to stop at Tate and sit forever with no traffic coming from Tate Rd. Once you get through that light, you have to stop at Chemstrand Rd. and sit again a lot of times with no traffic coming out of Chemstrand. This makes no sense at all. It&#039;s no wonder traffic doesn&#039;t move around here. Synchronization of lights in this town appears to be rocket science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Richard. Once you get through the Kingsfield light, you have to stop at Tate and sit forever with no traffic coming from Tate Rd. Once you get through that light, you have to stop at Chemstrand Rd. and sit again a lot of times with no traffic coming out of Chemstrand. This makes no sense at all. It&#8217;s no wonder traffic doesn&#8217;t move around here. Synchronization of lights in this town appears to be rocket science.</p>
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		<title>By: burniedsilcox</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2018/05/new-traffic-signalequipment-installed-at-16-escambia-county-intersectons/comment-page-1#comment-364684</link>
		<dc:creator>burniedsilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2018 21:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please I beg of you no more people North Of Mvskogee Rd.and half of them go back to East Hill or out West off Lillian Hwy.Please God for your Mercy .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please I beg of you no more people North Of Mvskogee Rd.and half of them go back to East Hill or out West off Lillian Hwy.Please God for your Mercy .</p>
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		<title>By: anne 1of2</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2018/05/new-traffic-signalequipment-installed-at-16-escambia-county-intersectons/comment-page-1#comment-364565</link>
		<dc:creator>anne 1of2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2018 15:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Us retired drivers do not need to be on the roads during rush hour traffic. Commenter  K has listed those times.  Nothing is that important.  Appointments can be scheduled around those times too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Us retired drivers do not need to be on the roads during rush hour traffic. Commenter  K has listed those times.  Nothing is that important.  Appointments can be scheduled around those times too.</p>
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		<title>By: w</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2018/05/new-traffic-signalequipment-installed-at-16-escambia-county-intersectons/comment-page-1#comment-364537</link>
		<dc:creator>w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2018 00:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The intersection at Palafox and Kingsfield was a 4 way stop for as long as I can remember until a few years ago when the light was installed.  I don&#039;t remember ever having traffic issues going through that 4 way stop every day since the late 80&#039;s, often many times a day as a truck driver.  The flow was smooth and orderly.

Perhaps there was a good reason for installing the light, but by doing so without left turn lanes has created an often frustrating situation.   Many times people in the north and southbound lanes of Palafox will not be able to make it through the light because left turners in front of the line get hung up.  Southbound left turners on Palafox waiting on a train crossing the Kingsfield railroad track might cause a bigger backup.
  
On occasion, I have seen people in the northbound lane use the right turn lane to go straight around traffic waiting on northbound left turners (once at a high rate of speed), which sets the scenario for a collision with someone in the southbound lane turning left.   Installing left turn lanes would be a nice improvement to the intersection along with the improvement to the light.   
@ William:   Was there an official reason for the county not adding left turn lanes to this intersection when the light was installed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The intersection at Palafox and Kingsfield was a 4 way stop for as long as I can remember until a few years ago when the light was installed.  I don&#8217;t remember ever having traffic issues going through that 4 way stop every day since the late 80&#8217;s, often many times a day as a truck driver.  The flow was smooth and orderly.</p>
<p>Perhaps there was a good reason for installing the light, but by doing so without left turn lanes has created an often frustrating situation.   Many times people in the north and southbound lanes of Palafox will not be able to make it through the light because left turners in front of the line get hung up.  Southbound left turners on Palafox waiting on a train crossing the Kingsfield railroad track might cause a bigger backup.</p>
<p>On occasion, I have seen people in the northbound lane use the right turn lane to go straight around traffic waiting on northbound left turners (once at a high rate of speed), which sets the scenario for a collision with someone in the southbound lane turning left.   Installing left turn lanes would be a nice improvement to the intersection along with the improvement to the light.<br />
@ William:   Was there an official reason for the county not adding left turn lanes to this intersection when the light was installed?</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2018/05/new-traffic-signalequipment-installed-at-16-escambia-county-intersectons/comment-page-1#comment-364528</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2018 19:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lights replaced/ updated were on Old Palifox NOT USH29. Please read article and understand these are two separate roads conctrolled by two separate government entities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lights replaced/ updated were on Old Palifox NOT USH29. Please read article and understand these are two separate roads conctrolled by two separate government entities.</p>
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		<title>By: k</title>
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		<dc:creator>k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2018 18:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anne 1of2 

I am as a former inspector for a civil engineering company very aware of how the traffic surveys are done in order to develop the light timing plan.

the light timing plan has the following limitations.  or, did have these.
for a light on a synchronized plan:
Daily:
  at 6 a.m. all sensor operated changes stop, and timed operation begins.
  - light is set at a minimum time and does not change until that time is up.  if the number of cars through a light triggers the sensors more than a certain number during that set time, the light doubles the amount of time before change.  
 - at 8 a.m. the light goes to set timing.   30 seconds on one road, 30 seconds on the other.  because the most people are moving on both roads at this point.
-  at 6 pm. the variable timing pattern from 6 a.m. to 8 a.m. resumes and stays that way until 11 p.m.
- at 11 p.m. the lights are sensor activated.  1 car hits the sensor pad and the light changes 3 to 5 seconds later if no other sensor detects a car.

the schedule is variable based on ... you guessed it... what the traffic surveys that I did reported on how much traffic went through the intersection.

the upshot:
what&#039;s more likely, that the oil companies are bribing local officials to have you sit in traffic to increase oil consumption, or that escambia county traffic planners have to find the best way to get 350,000 people to work between the hours of 6 a.m and 9 a.m. *every.single.morning*

when you ask yourself at which time you find yourself sitting still in traffic at a light most often, and the answer is 6 to 9 a.m, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m., or 4 to 7 pm, you have your answer.

there is no conspiracy.  just a ton of people taking their own cars to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anne 1of2 </p>
<p>I am as a former inspector for a civil engineering company very aware of how the traffic surveys are done in order to develop the light timing plan.</p>
<p>the light timing plan has the following limitations.  or, did have these.<br />
for a light on a synchronized plan:<br />
Daily:<br />
  at 6 a.m. all sensor operated changes stop, and timed operation begins.<br />
  &#8211; light is set at a minimum time and does not change until that time is up.  if the number of cars through a light triggers the sensors more than a certain number during that set time, the light doubles the amount of time before change.<br />
 &#8211; at 8 a.m. the light goes to set timing.   30 seconds on one road, 30 seconds on the other.  because the most people are moving on both roads at this point.<br />
-  at 6 pm. the variable timing pattern from 6 a.m. to 8 a.m. resumes and stays that way until 11 p.m.<br />
- at 11 p.m. the lights are sensor activated.  1 car hits the sensor pad and the light changes 3 to 5 seconds later if no other sensor detects a car.</p>
<p>the schedule is variable based on &#8230; you guessed it&#8230; what the traffic surveys that I did reported on how much traffic went through the intersection.</p>
<p>the upshot:<br />
what&#8217;s more likely, that the oil companies are bribing local officials to have you sit in traffic to increase oil consumption, or that escambia county traffic planners have to find the best way to get 350,000 people to work between the hours of 6 a.m and 9 a.m. *every.single.morning*</p>
<p>when you ask yourself at which time you find yourself sitting still in traffic at a light most often, and the answer is 6 to 9 a.m, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m., or 4 to 7 pm, you have your answer.</p>
<p>there is no conspiracy.  just a ton of people taking their own cars to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Well</title>
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		<dc:creator>Well</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2018 18:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just need more red lights.

Will promote walking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just need more red lights.</p>
<p>Will promote walking.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2018/05/new-traffic-signalequipment-installed-at-16-escambia-county-intersectons/comment-page-1#comment-364506</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2018 15:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Signals on Highway 29 are the state&#039;s. These signals and the traffic system are on county roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Signals on Highway 29 are the state&#8217;s. These signals and the traffic system are on county roads.</p>
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		<title>By: Grandma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grandma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2018 15:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard
You are so correct! Hwy 29 needs synchronization. If the new ATMS will allow live adjustments for traffic flow, will someone be monitoring Hwy 29 flow????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard<br />
You are so correct! Hwy 29 needs synchronization. If the new ATMS will allow live adjustments for traffic flow, will someone be monitoring Hwy 29 flow????</p>
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