Comments on: Escambia Sheriff, Commission Reach Preliminary Budget Agreement

By: Tabby

Tabby — Sun, 18 Mar 2018 18:53:54 +0000

@Adam
I’ve been following the conversation here. I am definitely pro LEO with many in my family working for ECSO since the 1960’s (one for over 30 years). There is a pay off for every single decision we make in life. I can say this. Most LEO’s don’t perform the job to “protect and serve”. Some may start that way but it’s the power, prestige, respect, fringe benefits, brotherhood, or any number of things that keep them there. What else would many do, work construction ? Think about the pay off.

By: Bill

Bill — Sat, 17 Mar 2018 19:01:02 +0000

Well Adam, you got it wrong as expected, but thank you for the comment. I know I am a genius and have been told so r many times. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, although that makes little difference. I have said, the pay for ALL county employees, should be set at a reasonable rate, and, looks to me like the study is a move in that direction. I have no problem with giving the Deputies a raise, nor the EMS people, nor the teachers. I have said, that my problem with the SO is THE MONEY I S THERE TO DO IT NOW. NOW, NOW. He does not need any more this year, and he has had the funds fodr at least the last 5 years to provide the raises, not only to his deputies, but the others behind as well. It is a matter of choice on his part. Try that one my boy, and as to County Comissioner, thanks but no thanks. You sound as if you would be an ideal candidate. But I have just been told the deal is off. Morgan did not get all he wants, and he is not going to allow anyone to play in his park, the LET …LOL

By: Bill

Bill — Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:29:38 +0000

Steve. I have just started thru my copy. It is one hell of a pile of papers. Based on a quick glance the “theme”, I get out of it, is that there is great inequity between departments, and that some classifications are way out of line, both lower, and higher ones. But again, have only skimmed the report. Look forward to reading it. But let me suggest something. Why not consolidate (and I know that is a bad word here in E
scambia) some of these “Constutional Officers functions. Why have multiple garages, why have multiple HR offices (bring back Civil Service, which should have Never, GONE AWAY), WHY HAVE ACCOUNTING AND PAYROLL DIFFERENT? WHY NOT PUT THE SCHOOL BOARD IN WITH ALL THIS The Air Force does most, if not all its accounting, world wide, from Denver. So this would be a small pond. , SOME TAKE BACK A Supertindent was willing to look at combining the accounting and payroll functions with the County., This could be done in so many ways. Memo of understanding, between officials, formal consolidation, and don’t tell me to start that it can not be done. It can. Involve our local delegation so if the laws
need to be changed, they can be. I know I am just barking up a tree, but it is all there, my friend.

By: Adam

Adam — Sat, 17 Mar 2018 11:03:10 +0000

So Bill, in reply to your statement, “But Deputies, have access to off duty jobs, that others could only dream of. Good for them, but the job of deputy also makes available very many different ways to earn extra money. Would sure like to know the average made, including, off duty work, at 22 an hour I think, although Morgan retains 2 per hour per job, am told. Quite a little sum of money, and wonder what he does with that little pot? Anyone know?”

In your eyes, deputies don’t deserve a raise because they have the ability to work off duty details for $20 an hour? So in your opinion, if a man or woman wants to earn more money, and after they’ve already worked their 40 hours, they can go work a side detail and total out your work hours to 60+? Your statement is problematic since ANY county employee can go get a second job if they want to earn more money. Oh hell, lets take your statement to another level and sum up your idea like this; there is NO NEED to raise minimum wage. According to Bill, if you want to make more money in life and you’ve already worked your 40+ hours a week, you can go get a second job. You don’t deserve a raise because your profession isn’t listed in the top 10 most dangerous professions.

You should run for County Commissioner with your idea Bill. Tell all of your employees that if want to earn more money then go get a second job. We won’t give you a pay raise unless your job title is in the top 10 most dangerous list. Also, every vehicle owner will pay an additional .06 cents per gallon so we can fund an public transportation company and their workers will make more money per hour and year than their counter-parts in the county. Great idea Bill, you’re a genius.

By: Steve

Steve — Sat, 17 Mar 2018 00:28:45 +0000

Bill,
I received my copy from our local union, so it should be available to everyone. There is a huge pay problem with the county. It is not just with our deputies. Ecat for example, all there Bus mechanics are currently making over $20 an hour. Where as the road department mechanics make $14.54 and that is where they stay unless they get a cost of living raise, A lot of turn over in numerous departments.

By: Bill

Bill — Fri, 16 Mar 2018 23:29:32 +0000

Steve. got a copy of the report. Thanks for bringing it up, I frankly did not know it existed, but was sent a copy this afternoon. What a mass of paper. have not read it yet. And one last thought, and remember, I think all employees should be treated equally. Granted the first responders may deserve a bit more, but last time I looked, law enforcement was not in the top 10 dangerous jobs. It may be now. But Deputies, have access to off duty jobs, that others could only dream of. Good for them, but the job of deputy also makes available very many different ways to earn extra money. Would sure like to know the average made, including, off duty work, at 22 an hour I think, although Morgan retains 2 per hour per job, am told. Quite a little sum of money, and wonder what he does with that little pot? Anyone know?

By: Citizen

Citizen — Fri, 16 Mar 2018 23:20:25 +0000

Poor wording, hope the inter-local agreement is more binding “if possible?” for SROs?

And I didn’t think the outside agency page was part of exactly how they were going to find the funds. It looked like an information sheet to show how much they had funded out side agencies.
My goodness they waste more than 2 or 3 million for a study here, a study there and OLF??? shhhh..

How many millions were voted to be spent there last night?

By: Bill

Bill — Fri, 16 Mar 2018 20:37:32 +0000

Steve, may I ask where you got the study? I would like to obtain a copy. did it come from the County.? I told my Commissioner, today, it is wrong to give these raises, what ever they are, to a single group, if all others are also behind. That is really the good ole boy routine. My point is, the money I s there NOW, AND HAS BEEN TO FUND THIS AND other things. It is a matter of choice, on how you use the funds, and Morgan has made his choice. Not one I would make.

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:28:23 +0000

REGARDING:
“We need more of the criminals arrested and the good citizens protected. I hope this is not considered a racist comment.”

It would be if you claimed all criminals were one race and all good citizens some other race. The second sentence implied that false claim.

David for better people

By: Withheld

Withheld — Fri, 16 Mar 2018 14:31:23 +0000

So I saw a comment about funeral escorts wonder which one of his buddies owns the company that does it .Recently had a funeral and they did a great job escorting us thru a residential area going to the base but if we would have had deputies we wouldn’t have had to go over speed bump or watch for children to run out in the road . just craziness all to get the sheriffs point across sad really