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	<title>Comments on: Details Revealed In Escambia Fire Harassment Case</title>
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		<title>By: A</title>
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		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2018 01:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some women know how to game the system in their favor and become very good at it.  Before you hang all the men that this person points to, you might want to take a look at that possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some women know how to game the system in their favor and become very good at it.  Before you hang all the men that this person points to, you might want to take a look at that possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Vroman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Vroman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 04:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been involved in the career fire service for some 53 years, much of which has been at the executive and command level, I have personally known Chief Grace for approximately 55 years. You can not ask for a more knowledgeable, dedicated and compassionate individual as Chief Grace. Your replacement search will go on for a long time to give find anyone who even comes close to him, but that’s your loss!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been involved in the career fire service for some 53 years, much of which has been at the executive and command level, I have personally known Chief Grace for approximately 55 years. You can not ask for a more knowledgeable, dedicated and compassionate individual as Chief Grace. Your replacement search will go on for a long time to give find anyone who even comes close to him, but that’s your loss!</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 05:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to our County government for its efforts to ouster antiquated work environments along with those toxic supervisors who are  lost in the past. Appropriate  action was taken after due process.  Is this a loose thread to deeper issues?  Is This County Government harboring Toxic issues in relating to its employee relations that center around nepotism, hostile work environments, that have yet not gained public scrutiny?  It appears that the victim  kept good notes and presented a solid case that... had to be acted upon.  Usually when theres such a strong case demanding action such as terminating high level supervisors there is a problem that is much more systemic in the organization.  This is usually not condoned but rather treated as a &quot;panic management&quot; issue until something happens.  The board should look closely at their own 4th floor, accountability always seems to stop just below there??? 
Why is D2 getting PR on this?  Why aren&#039;t we seeing the Administrator or the Chair address this on video media outlets?  Whose up for re election ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to our County government for its efforts to ouster antiquated work environments along with those toxic supervisors who are  lost in the past. Appropriate  action was taken after due process.  Is this a loose thread to deeper issues?  Is This County Government harboring Toxic issues in relating to its employee relations that center around nepotism, hostile work environments, that have yet not gained public scrutiny?  It appears that the victim  kept good notes and presented a solid case that&#8230; had to be acted upon.  Usually when theres such a strong case demanding action such as terminating high level supervisors there is a problem that is much more systemic in the organization.  This is usually not condoned but rather treated as a &#8220;panic management&#8221; issue until something happens.  The board should look closely at their own 4th floor, accountability always seems to stop just below there???<br />
Why is D2 getting PR on this?  Why aren&#8217;t we seeing the Administrator or the Chair address this on video media outlets?  Whose up for re election ?</p>
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		<title>By: Randal Gillette</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2018/01/3fire-chief-out-firefighters-removed-sexual-harasment-complaint/comment-page-1#comment-358148</link>
		<dc:creator>Randal Gillette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 03:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Waas.....
Good answer sir , thank you !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Waas&#8230;..<br />
Good answer sir , thank you !</p>
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		<title>By: John Waas</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Waas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2018 00:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randal Gillette, no rollers and not superwoman. She was well trained to use various methods in moving downed firefighters, In this case she rolled me to my right side and used the bottle on the SCBA to help slide my bulk while using a web strap. Again it not all about physical &quot;power&quot;, but the ability to use methods and tools we taught firefighters to &quot;work smarter, not harder&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randal Gillette, no rollers and not superwoman. She was well trained to use various methods in moving downed firefighters, In this case she rolled me to my right side and used the bottle on the SCBA to help slide my bulk while using a web strap. Again it not all about physical &#8220;power&#8221;, but the ability to use methods and tools we taught firefighters to &#8220;work smarter, not harder&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Granny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Granny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2018 23:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before my retirement over 10 years ago, I worked for the federal government for over 30 years, first in computer programming and then telecommunications, fields where women were overwhelmingly outnumbered by men.  I must have been in the most unique environment around, because I was always treated like a lady, was never harassed, belittled, or treated in any way other than with respect.  During the last few years of my career, I supervised nearly 50 employees, and the only complaint I ever received was from one of the men - a female employee was telling &#039;inappropriate&#039; jokes!  I know that was a very unusual environment - but just want you to know that a FEW places like this do exist  - there are still some good people out there, both women and men.  So unfortunate that not all workplaces can be that peaceful and pleasant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before my retirement over 10 years ago, I worked for the federal government for over 30 years, first in computer programming and then telecommunications, fields where women were overwhelmingly outnumbered by men.  I must have been in the most unique environment around, because I was always treated like a lady, was never harassed, belittled, or treated in any way other than with respect.  During the last few years of my career, I supervised nearly 50 employees, and the only complaint I ever received was from one of the men &#8211; a female employee was telling &#8216;inappropriate&#8217; jokes!  I know that was a very unusual environment &#8211; but just want you to know that a FEW places like this do exist  &#8211; there are still some good people out there, both women and men.  So unfortunate that not all workplaces can be that peaceful and pleasant.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2018/01/3fire-chief-out-firefighters-removed-sexual-harasment-complaint/comment-page-1#comment-358116</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2018 19:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see the county remove Chief Grace from his job, We tried to talk to Chief Grace about somethings going on with a Fire Department and he acted like it was nothing to him and we where bothering him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see the county remove Chief Grace from his job, We tried to talk to Chief Grace about somethings going on with a Fire Department and he acted like it was nothing to him and we where bothering him.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Wow</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2018/01/3fire-chief-out-firefighters-removed-sexual-harasment-complaint/comment-page-1#comment-358110</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2018 18:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing reading the comments from the men and women that aren&#039;t ashamed of the prevalent rape culture we have in this country.  This attitude doesn&#039;t help anyone.  It doesn&#039;t matter who you work with you owe it to yourself and your employer to be professional.  

I&#039;m a woman.  A veteran.  I&#039;ve worked jobs in construction and jobs in offices.  Right is right and wrong is wrong.  No one should be harassed.  No one&#039;s complaint should be pushed to the side or explained away.  The fire chief was wrong for not taking this seriously and deserves to lose his job.  

Imagine if this was a situation with kids at school.  Change the offense to bullying.  Do you allow little boys to continue harassing little girls?  Boys will be boys right?  Should the sexes be separated from all activities?  Get real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing reading the comments from the men and women that aren&#8217;t ashamed of the prevalent rape culture we have in this country.  This attitude doesn&#8217;t help anyone.  It doesn&#8217;t matter who you work with you owe it to yourself and your employer to be professional.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a woman.  A veteran.  I&#8217;ve worked jobs in construction and jobs in offices.  Right is right and wrong is wrong.  No one should be harassed.  No one&#8217;s complaint should be pushed to the side or explained away.  The fire chief was wrong for not taking this seriously and deserves to lose his job.  </p>
<p>Imagine if this was a situation with kids at school.  Change the offense to bullying.  Do you allow little boys to continue harassing little girls?  Boys will be boys right?  Should the sexes be separated from all activities?  Get real.</p>
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		<title>By: Randal Gillette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randal Gillette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2018 18:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Waas, 
 Please forgive me and I hate to armchair anything but regarding your comment .....
 You stated you were 300 pounds she weighs 100 pounds...... both of you wore bunker gear which is at a minimum of 60 to 70 pounds per person and you tell me she drug you hundred feet ?  That&#039;s at least 420 pounds .   Either she&#039;s (:superwoman or She had you on rollers .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Waas,<br />
 Please forgive me and I hate to armchair anything but regarding your comment &#8230;..<br />
 You stated you were 300 pounds she weighs 100 pounds&#8230;&#8230; both of you wore bunker gear which is at a minimum of 60 to 70 pounds per person and you tell me she drug you hundred feet ?  That&#8217;s at least 420 pounds .   Either she&#8217;s (:superwoman or She had you on rollers .</p>
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		<title>By: GiGi</title>
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		<dc:creator>GiGi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The journal shows ECFR lacked the will to self-correct when faced with substantial internal problems she identified. She continually faced the same problems because there were defenders of ECFR&#039;s hostile workplace. 

Although her plight is labeled as sexual harassment. She also reports sexism, racism, workplace safety hazards, routine failure to follow EMT training requirements, retaliation, and favoritism for the good  ole boys. She is identifying what is called a toxic and hostile workplace environment. 

ECFR&#039;s problems is not limited to just the internal workplace, her report of firefighter&#039;s disdain towards citizens they encounter while in crisis is heart breaking.

This journal reports a public safety crisis which impacts every person living within Escambia County. Firing Chief Grace, FF Watson, and LT Martin and a few classes on sexual harassment WILL NOT solve the public safety threat her journal identifies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The journal shows ECFR lacked the will to self-correct when faced with substantial internal problems she identified. She continually faced the same problems because there were defenders of ECFR&#8217;s hostile workplace. </p>
<p>Although her plight is labeled as sexual harassment. She also reports sexism, racism, workplace safety hazards, routine failure to follow EMT training requirements, retaliation, and favoritism for the good  ole boys. She is identifying what is called a toxic and hostile workplace environment. </p>
<p>ECFR&#8217;s problems is not limited to just the internal workplace, her report of firefighter&#8217;s disdain towards citizens they encounter while in crisis is heart breaking.</p>
<p>This journal reports a public safety crisis which impacts every person living within Escambia County. Firing Chief Grace, FF Watson, and LT Martin and a few classes on sexual harassment WILL NOT solve the public safety threat her journal identifies.</p>
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