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	<title>Comments on: Senator Questions Fairness Of Algebra EOC Exam</title>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2017/07/senator-questions-fairness-of-algebra-eoc-exam/comment-page-1#comment-347342</link>
		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2017 19:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REGARDING:
&quot; the assumption is that the material on the test is valid, and the teachers testing the material are capable of teaching the material.&quot;

Actually, an end of course examination only assumes the test accurately tests the student&#039;s ability to do the work the student should know how to do by the end of the course. It does not divide the question of why the student succeeds or fails.

I had a pitiful Algebra 2 teacher in Century 1969-70 for part of the year. He did not teach the subject, lectured on social issues as he clumped around the room on his wooden foot -- lost in service to our country. 

He was a good man and meant well, but did not teach Algebra 2. Yet he TESTED our ability to do the work, so we learned it on our own, gathering at lunch to figure it out. We would have aced an end of course exam, but not because he taught it. 

David for better teachers and students</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REGARDING:<br />
&#8221; the assumption is that the material on the test is valid, and the teachers testing the material are capable of teaching the material.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, an end of course examination only assumes the test accurately tests the student&#8217;s ability to do the work the student should know how to do by the end of the course. It does not divide the question of why the student succeeds or fails.</p>
<p>I had a pitiful Algebra 2 teacher in Century 1969-70 for part of the year. He did not teach the subject, lectured on social issues as he clumped around the room on his wooden foot &#8212; lost in service to our country. </p>
<p>He was a good man and meant well, but did not teach Algebra 2. Yet he TESTED our ability to do the work, so we learned it on our own, gathering at lunch to figure it out. We would have aced an end of course exam, but not because he taught it. </p>
<p>David for better teachers and students</p>
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		<title>By: The DOER</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2017/07/senator-questions-fairness-of-algebra-eoc-exam/comment-page-1#comment-347064</link>
		<dc:creator>The DOER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2017 10:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear NOD:
Your logic is flawed. Once again, the assumption is that the material on the test is valid, and the teachers testing the material are capable of teaching the material. Here is the problem in a nutshell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear NOD:<br />
Your logic is flawed. Once again, the assumption is that the material on the test is valid, and the teachers testing the material are capable of teaching the material. Here is the problem in a nutshell.</p>
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		<title>By: Fredaa</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2017/07/senator-questions-fairness-of-algebra-eoc-exam/comment-page-1#comment-347055</link>
		<dc:creator>Fredaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2017 02:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this why the teachers push community school so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this why the teachers push community school so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Nod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Final exams determine if you retained what you were taught. With no final exam you can learn it and forget it. This is a practice called criterion  testing. Each and every teacher in the county should be teaching the same information and if they are not then their supervisor should be fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Final exams determine if you retained what you were taught. With no final exam you can learn it and forget it. This is a practice called criterion  testing. Each and every teacher in the county should be teaching the same information and if they are not then their supervisor should be fired.</p>
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		<title>By: anne1of2</title>
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		<dc:creator>anne1of2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2017 13:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine explaining this one on a college application.</description>
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		<title>By: Tyron Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyron Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2017 12:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while your at it,

 less take grammar two .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while your at it,</p>
<p> less take grammar two .</p>
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		<title>By: The DOER</title>
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		<dc:creator>The DOER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2017 11:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The assumption is that the test is fair, the teacher knows his/her stuff, and the students are well-prepared.  This is not the case for Algebra II students, especially those in the north end. They have been the product of several teacher turnovers ,etc.  Look at the results of the latest EOC in Algebra II. Only 9% of Northview&#039;s students even passed; however, these same students scored second in the entire district in writing, reading and biology.  Something is definitely wrong here! Many students had A&#039;s and B&#039;s going into that final exam and bombed the exam -- thus making their final average drop to a &quot;C.&quot;  How can this be?  Then again, could it be that their 9 weeks&#039; grades were not adequately representing their abilities to begin with? Either way, there is a major discrepancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The assumption is that the test is fair, the teacher knows his/her stuff, and the students are well-prepared.  This is not the case for Algebra II students, especially those in the north end. They have been the product of several teacher turnovers ,etc.  Look at the results of the latest EOC in Algebra II. Only 9% of Northview&#8217;s students even passed; however, these same students scored second in the entire district in writing, reading and biology.  Something is definitely wrong here! Many students had A&#8217;s and B&#8217;s going into that final exam and bombed the exam &#8212; thus making their final average drop to a &#8220;C.&#8221;  How can this be?  Then again, could it be that their 9 weeks&#8217; grades were not adequately representing their abilities to begin with? Either way, there is a major discrepancy.</p>
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