Comments on: Ex-Employee Sentenced For Stealing From Cantonment Business http://www.northescambia.com/2017/06/ex-employee-sentenced-for-stealing-from-cantonment-business Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Sat, 18 Apr 2026 20:22:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Brinkley Hassebrock http://www.northescambia.com/2017/06/ex-employee-sentenced-for-stealing-from-cantonment-business/comment-page-1#comment-345770 Brinkley Hassebrock Sat, 01 Jul 2017 15:58:03 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=290391#comment-345770 I don't even know where he pawned/sold them. I think I've made my point as well. You can't know the history of a pawned item. The best that a pawnbroker do is ask questions and hope that the answers are truthful. Sometimes you can spot a liar. Other times they are quite convincing. Loan value has little to do with new retail value. Responsible pawnbrokers will ask questions and do the proper paperwork. Realize that every situation is unique. I'll agree that that are some sharks out there who are scumbags. Remember that reasonable people also have an open mind and don't have a one size fits all approach to life. I am pleased that A1 was able to recover their merchandise. I too think it's sad that they had to payback the loan to get it. Hopefully restitution is made by Patterson for this and the plasma cutters that were not recovered. I don’t even know where he pawned/sold them. I think I’ve made my point as well. You can’t know the history of a pawned item. The best that a pawnbroker do is ask questions and hope that the answers are truthful. Sometimes you can spot a liar. Other times they are quite convincing. Loan value has little to do with new retail value. Responsible pawnbrokers will ask questions and do the proper paperwork. Realize that every situation is unique. I’ll agree that that are some sharks out there who are scumbags. Remember that reasonable people also have an open mind and don’t have a one size fits all approach to life. I am pleased that A1 was able to recover their merchandise. I too think it’s sad that they had to payback the loan to get it. Hopefully restitution is made by Patterson for this and the plasma cutters that were not recovered.

]]> By: mike amerson http://www.northescambia.com/2017/06/ex-employee-sentenced-for-stealing-from-cantonment-business/comment-page-1#comment-345600 mike amerson Thu, 29 Jun 2017 10:39:09 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=290391#comment-345600 Now that's one I've never heard of. Using a Pawn Shop for storage while you're out of town so your items will be safe under lock and key and insured. Are you sure you're not the one who done this transaction? I think I've made my point to all the other reasonable people out there. Scott/Mike, keep the faith. Good things come to those that are good. You all take care. Mike Amerson Now that’s one I’ve never heard of. Using a Pawn Shop for storage while you’re out of town so your items will be safe under lock and key and insured. Are you sure you’re not the one who done this transaction? I think I’ve made my point to all the other reasonable people out there. Scott/Mike, keep the faith. Good things come to those that are good. You all take care. Mike Amerson

]]> By: Chris in Molino http://www.northescambia.com/2017/06/ex-employee-sentenced-for-stealing-from-cantonment-business/comment-page-1#comment-345575 Chris in Molino Wed, 28 Jun 2017 21:10:40 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=290391#comment-345575 I agree with Mike Amerson. Additionally, pawn brokers are generally thugs with a little money to purport themselves as good guys. I agree with Mike Amerson. Additionally, pawn brokers are generally thugs with a little money to purport themselves as good guys.

]]> By: Becky http://www.northescambia.com/2017/06/ex-employee-sentenced-for-stealing-from-cantonment-business/comment-page-1#comment-345574 Becky Wed, 28 Jun 2017 21:03:00 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=290391#comment-345574 He used to be my hair stylist. He is very talented. It broke my heart to see this article.I hope there is another dice to this story and it is not as bad as it looks. He used to be my hair stylist. He is very talented. It broke my heart to see this article.I hope there is another dice to this story and it is not as bad as it looks.

]]> By: Brinkley Hassebrock http://www.northescambia.com/2017/06/ex-employee-sentenced-for-stealing-from-cantonment-business/comment-page-1#comment-345541 Brinkley Hassebrock Wed, 28 Jun 2017 14:26:26 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=290391#comment-345541 Actually Mike I'm not trying to avoid your issue. I do consider myself a reasonable person. What you are failing to consider is that there are many people in the world with extremely diverse personal properties and needs wants and other reasons to require money. I was not there and I'm supposing that you were not either that day Michael Patterson took those generators to the pawn shop. We don't know if he sold them outright or if he only borrowed money on them. We don't what questions were asked about why he has 2 new generators. We don't know what answers were given. We don't know how reasonable those answers sounded. Is it impossible that someone could legally own 2 new generators? Sure. Is it possible that the same person could be in such dire straights that he is willing to put them up for collateral for 300 even though they are worth 2k? Absolutely. Here's another senario: A person has two new generators in their garage at home. One for him one for mom in the event that a storm will come through one day and does not want to gas them because as new in the box they need no maintenance. Not unreasonable in the least. Now suppose this person is going to take a trip and will have a person come by while he is away to feed his cats. He hopes he can trust them but is not entirely sure and absolutely does not want to loose his generators. He has an idea... He can pawn them and they will be safe under lock and key at the pawnshop while he is away. Not only locked away but also protected by alarms an insurance policy and a surety bond. Great idea but he knows that he will have to pay interest on the amount borrowed. So he does not want to borrow the max he can get because it will drive his interest up. There are countless scenarios where something is reasonable in one situation and not another. You can not predict what is reasonable because you don't even know all the questions much less the answers to them. True that is is the pawnbroker responsibility to ask questions and refuse to transact with suspected thieves. But thieves are sometimes good liars as well. And just because an item's loan amount does not reflect a given percentage of it's retail value does not mean that diligence in trying to determine if the item was stolen was not exercised by the pawnbroker. Actually Mike I’m not trying to avoid your issue. I do consider myself a reasonable person. What you are failing to consider is that there are many people in the world with extremely diverse personal properties and needs wants and other reasons to require money. I was not there and I’m supposing that you were not either that day Michael Patterson took those generators to the pawn shop. We don’t know if he sold them outright or if he only borrowed money on them. We don’t what questions were asked about why he has 2 new generators. We don’t know what answers were given. We don’t know how reasonable those answers sounded. Is it impossible that someone could legally own 2 new generators? Sure. Is it possible that the same person could be in such dire straights that he is willing to put them up for collateral for 300 even though they are worth 2k? Absolutely.

Here’s another senario:
A person has two new generators in their garage at home. One for him one for mom in the event that a storm will come through one day and does not want to gas them because as new in the box they need no maintenance. Not unreasonable in the least. Now suppose this person is going to take a trip and will have a person come by while he is away to feed his cats. He hopes he can trust them but is not entirely sure and absolutely does not want to loose his generators. He has an idea… He can pawn them and they will be safe under lock and key at the pawnshop while he is away. Not only locked away but also protected by alarms an insurance policy and a surety bond. Great idea but he knows that he will have to pay interest on the amount borrowed. So he does not want to borrow the max he can get because it will drive his interest up.

There are countless scenarios where something is reasonable in one situation and not another. You can not predict what is reasonable because you don’t even know all the questions much less the answers to them.

True that is is the pawnbroker responsibility to ask questions and refuse to transact with suspected thieves. But thieves are sometimes good liars as well. And just because an item’s loan amount does not reflect a given percentage of it’s retail value does not mean that diligence in trying to determine if the item was stolen was not exercised by the pawnbroker.

]]> By: mike amerson http://www.northescambia.com/2017/06/ex-employee-sentenced-for-stealing-from-cantonment-business/comment-page-1#comment-345528 mike amerson Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:45:29 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=290391#comment-345528 Brinkley, here's my issue that you're just trying to avoid. If a person walks into a Pawn shop with 2 brand new generators and wants to pawn/sell them and agrees to accept 300.00 for 2k worth of merchandise, a reasonable person would have to think maybe they're stolen. If you were to go to Walmart and one of the clerks there wanted to sell you these same items for that amount, even with a big box store like that, you're going to question why they're so cheap aren't you? That is if you're a reasonable person. The pawn broker has to report the items taken in, so don't make it look like they done anyone any favors. If I had to guess, once that was done, the system spit out a hit on the items because the serial numbers were listed as stolen in the data base. So the pawn shop sits there and hopes that who ever had them stolen didn't have the serial numbers at the time of the theft so after the expiration dates pass they get to keep/sale the items. In this case, A-1 had the information to be entered. Operating a pawn shop is like playing slot machines. You put a dollar in in hope that you win something. The pawn shop loans/pays money in hopes that no one claims it's stolen. It's as simple as that. I understand that when a family member steals family items and takes them to a pawn shop to sell/pawn them and later the reported victim wants them back it puts the pawn shop in a possible position to take a loss, but they knew this before opening the doors and that's the chance they take for being in that business. In a case like that, I could see where the pawn shop should recover their money from the family if they choose not to prosecute, but if it's a business like A-1, after proving that the property is theirs, they should be allowed to get their property back free of charge immediately and the pawn shop can wait to get their money back from the suspect. Again, go back to my simple example of the slot machines. The laws were lobbied years ago for the pawn brokers to have the law work in their favor and didn't care what position it put an legitimate victim in. I could go on and on about how that system is, but it's useless until enough people complain about it till it's changed. Don't try to make people think that the pawn shop done anyone any favors by saying if not for them reporting the items was the only way the victim got their property back. Had they called the Sheriffs Office while he was in the lobby trying to pawn the items, he would have gone to jail right then when they ran the serial numbers. Surely they didn't think he just had two brand new generators just sitting in his garage that he used to get a little spending money for during bad times. You really need to beam yourself back down to reality. Brinkley, here’s my issue that you’re just trying to avoid. If a person walks into a Pawn shop with 2 brand new generators and wants to pawn/sell them and agrees to accept 300.00 for 2k worth of merchandise, a reasonable person would have to think maybe they’re stolen. If you were to go to Walmart and one of the clerks there wanted to sell you these same items for that amount, even with a big box store like that, you’re going to question why they’re so cheap aren’t you? That is if you’re a reasonable person. The pawn broker has to report the items taken in, so don’t make it look like they done anyone any favors. If I had to guess, once that was done, the system spit out a hit on the items because the serial numbers were listed as stolen in the data base. So the pawn shop sits there and hopes that who ever had them stolen didn’t have the serial numbers at the time of the theft so after the expiration dates pass they get to keep/sale the items. In this case, A-1 had the information to be entered. Operating a pawn shop is like playing slot machines. You put a dollar in in hope that you win something. The pawn shop loans/pays money in hopes that no one claims it’s stolen. It’s as simple as that. I understand that when a family member steals family items and takes them to a pawn shop to sell/pawn them and later the reported victim wants them back it puts the pawn shop in a possible position to take a loss, but they knew this before opening the doors and that’s the chance they take for being in that business. In a case like that, I could see where the pawn shop should recover their money from the family if they choose not to prosecute, but if it’s a business like A-1, after proving that the property is theirs, they should be allowed to get their property back free of charge immediately and the pawn shop can wait to get their money back from the suspect. Again, go back to my simple example of the slot machines. The laws were lobbied years ago for the pawn brokers to have the law work in their favor and didn’t care what position it put an legitimate victim in. I could go on and on about how that system is, but it’s useless until enough people complain about it till it’s changed. Don’t try to make people think that the pawn shop done anyone any favors by saying if not for them reporting the items was the only way the victim got their property back. Had they called the Sheriffs Office while he was in the lobby trying to pawn the items, he would have gone to jail right then when they ran the serial numbers. Surely they didn’t think he just had two brand new generators just sitting in his garage that he used to get a little spending money for during bad times. You really need to beam yourself back down to reality.

]]> By: Brinkley Hassebrock http://www.northescambia.com/2017/06/ex-employee-sentenced-for-stealing-from-cantonment-business/comment-page-1#comment-345495 Brinkley Hassebrock Tue, 27 Jun 2017 18:01:03 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=290391#comment-345495 Again Rich, they did not have to buy the jewelry back. They could have prosecuted the daughter for theft and let the legal system run it's due course. They jewelry would have been placed on police hold for several years while the daughter's trial, conviction and appeal period had elapsed. Meanwhile the victim has no jewelry and the pawnbroker has no loan repayment. There is law. It's called the Florida Pawn Brokering Act. You can find it at Chapter 539 of the Florida Statutes. These folks either did not want to press charges against the daughter for theft, or if they did press charges - wanted the jewelry back faster than the several years they would have been required to wait for due process. If you find the law to be unfair, consider writing your congressman. Don't slander legal businessmen who are following the law. The majority of pawnbrokers don't pawn or buy items that are obviously stolen. There is no money in it. If the victim buys it back at no interest then the pawnbroker has wasted his time writing the loan. If the victim runs due course to reclaim his property without repayment, again it's a waste of time. In either case the pawnbroker's money is tied up in bad merchandise that can't be sold and he can collect no interest on his money. Only an idiot would loan money under those terms. The pawnbroker tries very hard to make sure he is writing profitable loans. Again Rich, they did not have to buy the jewelry back. They could have prosecuted the daughter for theft and let the legal system run it’s due course. They jewelry would have been placed on police hold for several years while the daughter’s trial, conviction and appeal period had elapsed. Meanwhile the victim has no jewelry and the pawnbroker has no loan repayment. There is law. It’s called the Florida Pawn Brokering Act. You can find it at Chapter 539 of the Florida Statutes. These folks either did not want to press charges against the daughter for theft, or if they did press charges – wanted the jewelry back faster than the several years they would have been required to wait for due process.

If you find the law to be unfair, consider writing your congressman. Don’t slander legal businessmen who are following the law.

The majority of pawnbrokers don’t pawn or buy items that are obviously stolen. There is no money in it. If the victim buys it back at no interest then the pawnbroker has wasted his time writing the loan. If the victim runs due course to reclaim his property without repayment, again it’s a waste of time. In either case the pawnbroker’s money is tied up in bad merchandise that can’t be sold and he can collect no interest on his money. Only an idiot would loan money under those terms. The pawnbroker tries very hard to make sure he is writing profitable loans.

]]> By: Rich http://www.northescambia.com/2017/06/ex-employee-sentenced-for-stealing-from-cantonment-business/comment-page-1#comment-345491 Rich Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:28:53 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=290391#comment-345491 Why should the victim have to buy their stolen items back. That is not right, I know of a case where a daughter stole he mothers antique jewlery and pawned it for a large sum. They had to buy it back. The daughter was in her 20's it should have been observed that she had no way to come up with the jewlery. A few questions could have prevented this, a call to the law would have helped. Why should the victim have to buy their stolen items back. That is not right, I know of a case where a daughter stole he mothers antique jewlery and pawned it for a large sum. They had to buy it back. The daughter was in her 20’s it should have been observed that she had no way to come up with the jewlery. A few questions could have prevented this, a call to the law would have helped.

]]> By: M in Bratt http://www.northescambia.com/2017/06/ex-employee-sentenced-for-stealing-from-cantonment-business/comment-page-1#comment-345488 M in Bratt Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:13:00 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=290391#comment-345488 Brinkley; that is spoken like any upstanding Pawn Broker would. Brinkley; that is spoken like any upstanding Pawn Broker would.

]]> By: Robert http://www.northescambia.com/2017/06/ex-employee-sentenced-for-stealing-from-cantonment-business/comment-page-1#comment-345484 Robert Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:29:39 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=290391#comment-345484 Brinkley, I agree that the main problem is the thief. On the other hand, if an unwitting citizen buys stolen property accidently, it will be taken from them without compensation. They don't even have the option to write it off for taxes like a corporation would. There isn't an easy solution, but as someone who has been robbed on multiple occasions. It would be nice if there were lies people and businesses who purchase obviously stolen goods because it is such a good deal. It would help if everyone never bought a thing from those with a substance accuse problem. At best, you're taking advantage of someone in a difficult situation. Brinkley, I agree that the main problem is the thief. On the other hand, if an unwitting citizen buys stolen property accidently, it will be taken from them without compensation. They don’t even have the option to write it off for taxes like a corporation would.

There isn’t an easy solution, but as someone who has been robbed on multiple occasions. It would be nice if there were lies people and businesses who purchase obviously stolen goods because it is such a good deal.

It would help if everyone never bought a thing from those with a substance accuse problem. At best, you’re taking advantage of someone in a difficult situation.

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