Comments on: Judge: FWC Must Keep Deer-Dog Hunters Off Private Property

By: Kendra Johnson

Kendra Johnson — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 18:29:08 +0000

Are there any updates on this story? I am referring to the following from article above that talks about damages:

“A hearing is set for Nov. 7 to determine if the court should proceed with a jury trial regarding damages. Daws and Gershon are asking for at least $15,000 in damages, claiming the state agency’s issuance of permits to deer-dog hunters has deprived them of their constitutional rights as property owners.”

Thank You!

By: It's not Just in Florida

It's not Just in Florida — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:45:34 +0000

wow. Up here in Virginia we have same issues with dog hunters. Looking to use similar court case. The local idiots give hunters a bad name. Same problems with destroying property, tres-poaching, and racing their trucks up and donw the road not worried about kids who might ride a bike down road. We have too keep the kids next to the house as we fear these fools might harm our children with their reckless firearm handling.
Time to stop this trespoaching tradition.

By: Marsha F

Marsha F — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 13:31:46 +0000

A lot of big talkers on here hiding behind an alias.

By: MS_camper

MS_camper — Fri, 14 Oct 2016 19:43:47 +0000

bwalker21,

SEDHA did not put a fence AROUND the Daws property, they put a fence EAST of the Daws property, on state-owned land. The Daws paid for all the fence on their property.

The Daws did not cut holes in the fence.

There are quite a few other plaintiffs with several other pieces of property, all of whom have had trespassing dogs the last few seasons, including some in the last two months.

The plaintiffs have the right to sit on their four wheelers inside their property line and do pretty much whatever they please as long as it doesn’t involve shooting at you. How ironic that you say, “They can’t seems [sic] to figure out that they don’t own anything past their property line.” when this lawsuit happened because the dog-deer hunters whose dogs are trespassing can’t seem to figure out that they don’t own what’s within the private property lines and have no right to let their dogs run there. Too bad the dog hunters don’t keep their property from trespassing. If they had, dog-deer hunters in Blackwater would not be in this pickle.

By: Know where to Run

Know where to Run — Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:05:14 +0000

To whom it may concern
regarding the dog trespassing on private property in Blackwater:
It not just two people involved in this law suit. There are 97 private property parcels in the dog hunting area. Take your best guess as to the other landowners also actively involved.
If you think we are “city-slickers,” think again. I have owned 52 hound dogs at one time and have dog hunted more that any of you have or ever will. Some folks have lived with this harassment all or a good part of their lives.
Having Thanksgiving and Christmas ruined or “canceled” because it coincides with dog hunting, not being able to let your children or grandchildren play outside when hunters are around (because they shoot across property boundaries), shooting in close proximity to homes just to harass, being cursed and threatened, reckless operation of vehicles and speeding, blocking roads, throwing out beer cans and trash, dogs spooking livestock causing them to hurt themselves, dogs and armed hunters trespassing on posted private property, dodging bullets to avoid being shot and other incidents that others have had to deal with is sufficient to say–Enough is enough!
So, if you don’t like the ruling, go dig you up a few coffee cans and collect about $200,000 like we did to get the best attorney in the state of Florida to take on the FWC (who heard our complaints, but did nothing to help us) and let a judge sort it out. Now, get you some of that.
P.S. Tree stands are on sale at Bass Pro.

By: local hunter

local hunter — Fri, 14 Oct 2016 16:17:29 +0000

As a dog hunter that has been trying to purchase land on or around the management area to have a place to spend summers and winters hunting and enjoying nature, I can sympathize with landowners. Trespassing is just wrong and illegal. The group that I hunt with does everything possible as to not get close to anyone’s privately owned property because of this situation. To other dog hunters: that management stamp and hunting license that you purchase each year, does not give you the right to access private property, it never has…So even if you have been hunting in that area for the past 10 years, you never had the right access private property to begin with. Like Sarge mentioned, I don’t think shocking a dog for doing its job is the problem solver and since we can’t put the shock collars on the hunters that choose to not follow the laws, I urge GAME WARDENS to make a strong presence this hunting season to help the law abiding dog hunters put pressure on the individuals and groups that choose not to follow the laws and respect land owners.

By: Walker21

Walker21 — Fri, 14 Oct 2016 04:12:11 +0000

All of you who are automatically on the daws side, realize that these are allegations. I dog hunt these woods and it is an area that is avoided now. They have not had people fire over their heads; if anything it’s the other way around. They have repeated disturbed still hunters and dog hunters alike. Also, there is a fence around this property built and payed for by SEDHA to keep dogs off the property. However, the property owners cut holes in the fence so that they could catch dogs and cause more problems. It is also known that the woman is constantly looking for trouble. Anytime you sir I’ve by there during dog hunting she is sitting by the fence on her fourwheler trying to provoke hunters. Hunters have done everything they can. For once, don’t let these people win. The landowners are in the wrong. People don’t trespass, they keep their dogs off. The daws however catch people’s dogs, which Is a dog hunters PROPERTY in a DOG HUNTING area and then file a lawsuit. They can’t seems to figure out that they don’t own anything past their property line… you can’t have The whole forest to yourself.

By: MS_camper

MS_camper — Fri, 14 Oct 2016 03:15:22 +0000

B. Phillips,

You’re going way out on a limb to accuse the judge of corruption. Dollars to donuts, that judge had never heard of dog-deer hunting before she was assigned this case.

“Should have known,” is just a dog-deer hunter excuse for trespassing. First, some of the plaintiffs lived on their property since before there was a Blackwater WMA. How should they have known when the property has been in their family for decades? Second, if you are not from the area (which does not mean you are a city-slicker, BTW), you may not be aware of dog-deer hunting on the property when you are looking at it. Even if you look at it during deer season, you may not see dogs during the limited time you are there. So how should you know?

Those of us who’ve bought land only to discover that dog-deer trespass is a problem thought that our neighbors would be honorable and keep their dogs off our property. We’ve asked the club that hunts around us repeatedly to keep their dogs off our property but it has done no good. We wouldn’t trespass on someone else’s property so it never occurred to us that other people would treat our property as if it’s their own when running their dogs.

We bought property three miles back on a twisting, winding gravel forestry road, almost at the end of the road. There is nothing but national forest and timber company property along that road and we’re so far back that there is no electricity. My partner chose that property because it is surrounded by national forest and is away from civilization. We didn’t expect to be overrun by dogs. T planned to hunt the national forest some but he suffered a crippling injury over four years ago so he can’t walk far without experiencing severe pain. Because of the trespassing dogs, he can’t even hunt our property. It’s disgusting that the dog-deer hunters run their dogs on our property, block the roads (we have date and time-stamped photos), run their ATVs on the forestry road (illegal, we have pictures), dump trash and beer cans along the forestry road, etc.

Each of us had a grandfather that hunted deer with dogs but they way they hunted was nothing like the circus that is deer-dog hunting today, at least in our area.

By: sarge

sarge — Thu, 13 Oct 2016 21:47:32 +0000

Mr B. Phillips you do know that his name is DAWS and he has a Paved road ( Belandville Road in front of his house. Does not have Still Hunt Area on any of the four sides of his property. Are you talking about the right person?

By: sarge

sarge — Thu, 13 Oct 2016 21:42:32 +0000

I only report when we see or have true evidence of people or dogs entering my property , . People run dogs here year around . people run dogs during the months that deer are dropping fawns, at night and during the day YEAR AROUND it goes on , I have NOT said all people involved are doing this ! But the dog hunters that do and hunters that know of hunters doing this that do not report them for doing this are at least complicit , In other counties in Fl. a lease law,is on the books . you are responsible for your animals acts. It becomes personal to me because it is happening to me, not to someone else when someone trespasses on my property . I enjoyed Dog Hunting , but areas you could hunt w/out trespassing on private property became fewer, keeping dogs is an enormous expense and maintaining or buying vehicles to chase with was an every year cost, all we drive are 4×4 . I have used collars both to track with. and used them to prevent unwanted behavior , using a collar to stop a dog from running a deer in a certain area is insane “are you gonna shock a dog for doing his job ,it will after being shocked multiple times keep him from doing his job, Have you ever had a taser (shock collar same thing) Used on you,? did it make you want to continue whatever action was going on when you felt it? I DO NOT HATE DOG HUNTERS or DOG HUNTING what has evolved into Dog Hunting in the Dog Hunting area of Blackwater Forest sooner or later will result in violence , injury or Death . An incident about night hunting legally resulted in someone being shot.in the back resulting in injury. When weapons , trespass ,people’s rights, sometimes alcohol, passionate people (everybody) are combined , It’s going to happen . THAT IS A NO DUH , OR A YA THINK equation. Think People , maybe the solution is selected area w/ an honest lottery for a permit to dog hunt it! I have personally had game officials along to ensure ya minded ya Ps N Qs on dog hunts was still super fun they have a FOX AREA only why not a Dog Hunting Area only, Personally I’d like a BOW HUNTING AREA only . and I don’t have the solution to this.I started going dog hunting in the late ’50s in Blackwater , Used to be everybody that hunted ATE the MEAT it was about the MEAT but NOW its about the TROPHY RACK. I find MULTIPLE carcasses of whole deer dumped in the same areas without being skinned or deer w/the backstrap cut off,EVERY YEAR Good Luck what ya think is the odds of a deer w/genes growing to 5-7 yrs in the Dog Hunting area of Blackwater