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	<title>Comments on: Black Bears Showing Robust Growth In Florida</title>
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		<title>By: dm</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2016/03/black-bears-showing-robust-growth-in-florida/comment-page-1#comment-319237</link>
		<dc:creator>dm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2016 01:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kathy,

If there is no  &quot;bear hunt&quot; --
With no way to control their numbers --
What will we do when the population doubles ?
Should we just depend on road killed bears to keep their numbers down ?

How do you suggest we deal with the extra bears ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kathy,</p>
<p>If there is no  &#8220;bear hunt&#8221; &#8211;<br />
With no way to control their numbers &#8211;<br />
What will we do when the population doubles ?<br />
Should we just depend on road killed bears to keep their numbers down ?</p>
<p>How do you suggest we deal with the extra bears ?</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2016 23:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know if you bunny huggers are soooooo concerned about the bear, rather than whining and crying about the few bear taken in the state through legal hunting, why don&#039;t you address the bigger problem of timber companies herbiciding tens of thousands of acres of woodlands, therein decimating the bears&#039; food supply literally, for decades??  

Within 10 miles of my house there is in all probability 20,000 acres of timberland that has been herbicided. There are NO berry bearing plants left, the forest consists of pine trees, pine straw, and brome grass. Those berries comprise the majority of the bears&#039; diet, several months out of the year. Unless you people have taught your cute fuzzy little bears to eat pine straw, they are going to become a problem, because there is nothing left for them to eat in the forest and they are being pushed into Urban areas. 

Then there is the small matter of environmentalists working for the US Forest Service that are on a mission leveling 15,000 acres of forest, so that it can all be planted in Long Leaf Pine Trees, again decimating the berry bearing plants that the bear need for feed, just 12 miles up the road from my house.  

So quit whining and crying about hunters, who for the most part are NOT irresponsible, get off your indignant irresponsible backsides and go fight the battle where it rightfully should be fought. Tell ITT Rayonier and the US Government to quit destroying bear habitat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know if you bunny huggers are soooooo concerned about the bear, rather than whining and crying about the few bear taken in the state through legal hunting, why don&#8217;t you address the bigger problem of timber companies herbiciding tens of thousands of acres of woodlands, therein decimating the bears&#8217; food supply literally, for decades??  </p>
<p>Within 10 miles of my house there is in all probability 20,000 acres of timberland that has been herbicided. There are NO berry bearing plants left, the forest consists of pine trees, pine straw, and brome grass. Those berries comprise the majority of the bears&#8217; diet, several months out of the year. Unless you people have taught your cute fuzzy little bears to eat pine straw, they are going to become a problem, because there is nothing left for them to eat in the forest and they are being pushed into Urban areas. </p>
<p>Then there is the small matter of environmentalists working for the US Forest Service that are on a mission leveling 15,000 acres of forest, so that it can all be planted in Long Leaf Pine Trees, again decimating the berry bearing plants that the bear need for feed, just 12 miles up the road from my house.  </p>
<p>So quit whining and crying about hunters, who for the most part are NOT irresponsible, get off your indignant irresponsible backsides and go fight the battle where it rightfully should be fought. Tell ITT Rayonier and the US Government to quit destroying bear habitat!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should never allow bear hunting, there are so few left.  Why would anyone want to kill them?    I guess to have a bear rug and say &quot;look what I killed for no reason&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should never allow bear hunting, there are so few left.  Why would anyone want to kill them?    I guess to have a bear rug and say &#8220;look what I killed for no reason&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kim,

Lay off the Kool-Aid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kim,</p>
<p>Lay off the Kool-Aid.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few things to consider here... 

Eason said they were taking a conservative approach... Beginning with bear population numbers! 

The Florida Black Bear Management Plan clearly states that only Primary bear habitat is sampled in their studies. It further states they know bear exist in Secondary habitat, but they’re difficult to estimate there, so they do NOT attempt to estimate those bear. The cities experiencing bear problems, are not considered bear habitat; those bear are NOT estimated. 

The Black Bear Management Plan indicates a population of 2,705 - 2,942 bear in Florida per 2002 estimate. In 2012 they estimated 2,640 bear? Now suddenly 4,000 bear a year later??? And, bear are raising 2,000 cubs annually? Somehow their math simply doesn&#039;t work! 

Trying to understand this... Primary Black Bear Habitat has a carrying capacity of only so many animals. Once that carrying capacity is met, the bear move out of primary habitat. BUT... ONLY Primary Habitat is sampled in population estimates. 

Understanding the sampling method, it’s reasonable to assume that once sustainable population is met, in any Primary Bear Habitat, it will never grow larger under the current sampling method, although bear numbers will continue to increase in surrounding habitat not sampled. 

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As far as Ms. Lopez’s comments - If fragmented populations somehow make bear &quot;vulnerable to mortality from roads and proximity to urban areas&quot; increasing the population beyond the carrying capacity of primary habitat reduces their chance of mortality HOW? Increasing the population, will only serve to make bear more vulnerable to those causes of mortality. 

And, they know they will not get the Florida Black Bear relisted as endangered. They are hoping for a cease and desist order to stop the hunting season indefinitely, while tying FWC up in court arguing their case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few things to consider here&#8230; </p>
<p>Eason said they were taking a conservative approach&#8230; Beginning with bear population numbers! </p>
<p>The Florida Black Bear Management Plan clearly states that only Primary bear habitat is sampled in their studies. It further states they know bear exist in Secondary habitat, but they’re difficult to estimate there, so they do NOT attempt to estimate those bear. The cities experiencing bear problems, are not considered bear habitat; those bear are NOT estimated. </p>
<p>The Black Bear Management Plan indicates a population of 2,705 &#8211; 2,942 bear in Florida per 2002 estimate. In 2012 they estimated 2,640 bear? Now suddenly 4,000 bear a year later??? And, bear are raising 2,000 cubs annually? Somehow their math simply doesn&#8217;t work! </p>
<p>Trying to understand this&#8230; Primary Black Bear Habitat has a carrying capacity of only so many animals. Once that carrying capacity is met, the bear move out of primary habitat. BUT&#8230; ONLY Primary Habitat is sampled in population estimates. </p>
<p>Understanding the sampling method, it’s reasonable to assume that once sustainable population is met, in any Primary Bear Habitat, it will never grow larger under the current sampling method, although bear numbers will continue to increase in surrounding habitat not sampled. </p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>As far as Ms. Lopez’s comments &#8211; If fragmented populations somehow make bear &#8220;vulnerable to mortality from roads and proximity to urban areas&#8221; increasing the population beyond the carrying capacity of primary habitat reduces their chance of mortality HOW? Increasing the population, will only serve to make bear more vulnerable to those causes of mortality. </p>
<p>And, they know they will not get the Florida Black Bear relisted as endangered. They are hoping for a cease and desist order to stop the hunting season indefinitely, while tying FWC up in court arguing their case.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2016/03/black-bears-showing-robust-growth-in-florida/comment-page-1#comment-319178</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fwc allowed over 3000 irresponsible hunters loose on our bears last year and they slaughtered way more than what the FWC is admitting. Fwc officials are lying about this count. The count wasnt complete until after the bears were slaughtered and doesnt include bears that were poached,bears killed by baiting on private land, predetation an bears killed on our highways or by the FWC!!! They decimated the bear population beyond even their admitted expectations and are now trying to cover their behinds! THIS IS MY OPINION AND A LOT OF  FLORIDIANS FEEL THE SAME WAY I DO. NO MORE BEAR HUNTS FWC! Leave them alone! Havent you done enough damage to them!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fwc allowed over 3000 irresponsible hunters loose on our bears last year and they slaughtered way more than what the FWC is admitting. Fwc officials are lying about this count. The count wasnt complete until after the bears were slaughtered and doesnt include bears that were poached,bears killed by baiting on private land, predetation an bears killed on our highways or by the FWC!!! They decimated the bear population beyond even their admitted expectations and are now trying to cover their behinds! THIS IS MY OPINION AND A LOT OF  FLORIDIANS FEEL THE SAME WAY I DO. NO MORE BEAR HUNTS FWC! Leave them alone! Havent you done enough damage to them!!!</p>
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		<title>By: dm</title>
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		<dc:creator>dm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they are designated an &quot;Endangered Species&quot; -- there would be no control of their numbers !!!
let&#039;s say there are 4000 bears now, if 2000 are born each year -- in just 2 years the population doubles.
Where will they go ?
They are in peoples yards NOW !!!
How many will we have in 10 years ?
$500,000 to match local dollars ($1 million) so you can lock your garbage can.
If you have a bird feeder you will get a ticket for feeding the bears.

With the increase in population, how much more money and new regulations will we have to protect the precious bears from the evil people ?

A bear hunt would solve the problem !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they are designated an &#8220;Endangered Species&#8221; &#8212; there would be no control of their numbers !!!<br />
let&#8217;s say there are 4000 bears now, if 2000 are born each year &#8212; in just 2 years the population doubles.<br />
Where will they go ?<br />
They are in peoples yards NOW !!!<br />
How many will we have in 10 years ?<br />
$500,000 to match local dollars ($1 million) so you can lock your garbage can.<br />
If you have a bird feeder you will get a ticket for feeding the bears.</p>
<p>With the increase in population, how much more money and new regulations will we have to protect the precious bears from the evil people ?</p>
<p>A bear hunt would solve the problem !!!</p>
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		<title>By: chris in Molino</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris in Molino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree totally with the below. However, for some reason, a lot of information is missing. For example: one of the reasons Florida purchased all the land from the Barrineau property south along Perdido River and Alabama&#039;s Forever Wild did the same from IP is to establish a corridor to the Mississippi Delta to bring back animals like the black bear to their natural habitats. 
Yes, the population may be over abundant. Only in isolated areas instead of being spread out everywhere. I know of a few bears in the Northescambia area but considering the above, why not cature and relocate bears to the areas we&#039;re spending vast amounts of money to bring them back to ? Does that not make more sense over hunting in the isolated areas they are ?
I am a hunter, a meat hunter. Yea, who doesn&#039;t want a big buck, but I can picture some guy pulling up in his $60k pretty boy truck to unload his $20k polaris in his $500 hunting outfit to go get a bear. Dont forget the finger padded gloves so as to text on Facebook to everyone where he is and what he&#039;s doing. Then, to get the bear just to mount and show off, not for the meat. Swallow the pride. That&#039;s my rub with the bear hunt. Believe me, I like the liberal hippie love everyone freaks even less. At least the pretty hunters are trying to pretend to be country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree totally with the below. However, for some reason, a lot of information is missing. For example: one of the reasons Florida purchased all the land from the Barrineau property south along Perdido River and Alabama&#8217;s Forever Wild did the same from IP is to establish a corridor to the Mississippi Delta to bring back animals like the black bear to their natural habitats.<br />
Yes, the population may be over abundant. Only in isolated areas instead of being spread out everywhere. I know of a few bears in the Northescambia area but considering the above, why not cature and relocate bears to the areas we&#8217;re spending vast amounts of money to bring them back to ? Does that not make more sense over hunting in the isolated areas they are ?<br />
I am a hunter, a meat hunter. Yea, who doesn&#8217;t want a big buck, but I can picture some guy pulling up in his $60k pretty boy truck to unload his $20k polaris in his $500 hunting outfit to go get a bear. Dont forget the finger padded gloves so as to text on Facebook to everyone where he is and what he&#8217;s doing. Then, to get the bear just to mount and show off, not for the meat. Swallow the pride. That&#8217;s my rub with the bear hunt. Believe me, I like the liberal hippie love everyone freaks even less. At least the pretty hunters are trying to pretend to be country.</p>
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		<title>By: No Excuses</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Excuses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2016 03:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ James,

    I agree!  Many of these radical animal rights people put animals on the same level as human beings.  I am all for good stewardship of our wildlife and natural resources, but sometimes, the herd needs to be thinned for the benefit of all.  These folks have &quot;drunk the koolaid&quot; and won&#039;t hear anything other than their own rhetoric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ James,</p>
<p>    I agree!  Many of these radical animal rights people put animals on the same level as human beings.  I am all for good stewardship of our wildlife and natural resources, but sometimes, the herd needs to be thinned for the benefit of all.  These folks have &#8220;drunk the koolaid&#8221; and won&#8217;t hear anything other than their own rhetoric.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 07:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacki Lopez&#039;s statement disregarding the new bear numbers despite having not reviewed the actual numbers is a clear indication the groups petitioning to protect the bears will not be satisfied until the bear hunt is completely eliminated and black bears are placed on a protected list.  Lopez is clearly completely close-minded to any middle-ground or actual conservation efforts.  These radical &quot;conservation&quot; groups would prefer bear numbers (and other species) to be so populated that the animals should suffer death resulting from starvation, disease, etc., rather than thrive through a conscious and effective conservation program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacki Lopez&#8217;s statement disregarding the new bear numbers despite having not reviewed the actual numbers is a clear indication the groups petitioning to protect the bears will not be satisfied until the bear hunt is completely eliminated and black bears are placed on a protected list.  Lopez is clearly completely close-minded to any middle-ground or actual conservation efforts.  These radical &#8220;conservation&#8221; groups would prefer bear numbers (and other species) to be so populated that the animals should suffer death resulting from starvation, disease, etc., rather than thrive through a conscious and effective conservation program.</p>
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