Comments on: Guns Targeted In Domestic Violence, Stalking Cases http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/guns-targeted-in-domestic-violence-stalking-cases Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Fri, 10 Apr 2026 21:33:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Traumaqueen http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/guns-targeted-in-domestic-violence-stalking-cases/comment-page-1#comment-313176 Traumaqueen Thu, 17 Dec 2015 05:26:19 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=237297#comment-313176 How many abusers, whether it be a man or woman, admits to abusing someone else? Better to aire on the side of caution than to jeopardize an abuser retalliating or escalating? If the abuser did commit the crime then surely it didn't matter if his rights were violated because he didn't much care about breaking the law and losing his rights in the first place. I venture to guess that there are fewer false accusations than true cases of abuse. Just a guess.. How many abusers, whether it be a man or woman, admits to abusing someone else? Better to aire on the side of caution than to jeopardize an abuser retalliating or escalating? If the abuser did commit the crime then surely it didn’t matter if his rights were violated because he didn’t much care about breaking the law and losing his rights in the first place.

I venture to guess that there are fewer false accusations than true cases of abuse. Just a guess..

]]> By: Sedition http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/guns-targeted-in-domestic-violence-stalking-cases/comment-page-1#comment-313150 Sedition Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:05:50 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=237297#comment-313150 If you're going to be a bear, be a Grizzly. If they are going to attempt to remove Constitutionally protected rights without due process, make them pay a heavy price for it. "When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." Thomas Jefferson 3rd president of US (1743 - 1826) If you’re going to be a bear, be a Grizzly. If they are going to attempt to remove Constitutionally protected rights without due process, make them pay a heavy price for it.
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
3rd president of US (1743 – 1826)

]]> By: Pensacola pete http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/guns-targeted-in-domestic-violence-stalking-cases/comment-page-1#comment-312963 Pensacola pete Mon, 14 Dec 2015 11:37:06 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=237297#comment-312963 SW is right, there is no due process. A constitutional right is suspended simply because a judge makes a ruling on "he said, she said" information. The right to bear arms is dismissed arbitrarily, but why stop there? If one right can be refused, what about the rest? Why not also take away the right to trial by jury? Someone tells the court you're a threat and you're imprisoned without trial for an indefinite time. Does a sworn statement justify suspending your Constitutional right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, freedom of speech or allow cruel and unusual punishment? I agree that legitimate threats need to be contained but allowing any government agency to deny the Constitutional rights of citizens (that's you and me, kids) opens the door to abuses our founding fathers feared over two hundred years ago! Soapbox returned to the next speaker. SW is right, there is no due process. A constitutional right is suspended simply because a judge makes a ruling on “he said, she said” information.

The right to bear arms is dismissed arbitrarily, but why stop there? If one right can be refused, what about the rest? Why not also take away the right to trial by jury? Someone tells the court you’re a threat and you’re imprisoned without trial for an indefinite time.

Does a sworn statement justify suspending your Constitutional right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, freedom of speech or allow cruel and unusual punishment?

I agree that legitimate threats need to be contained but allowing any government agency to deny the Constitutional rights of citizens (that’s you and me, kids) opens the door to abuses our founding fathers feared over two hundred years ago!

Soapbox returned to the next speaker.

]]> By: SW http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/guns-targeted-in-domestic-violence-stalking-cases/comment-page-1#comment-312931 SW Sun, 13 Dec 2015 20:25:48 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=237297#comment-312931 While they're at it, why not go ahead and add them to the 'No-Fly' list? Where is due process, here? While they’re at it, why not go ahead and add them to the ‘No-Fly’ list?

Where is due process, here?

]]> By: Esc co leo http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/guns-targeted-in-domestic-violence-stalking-cases/comment-page-1#comment-312876 Esc co leo Sat, 12 Dec 2015 16:40:12 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=237297#comment-312876 Anyone can file for an injunction. If the alleged conduct is bad enough, the judge will immediately give a temporary injunction that is only valid until the hearing for the permanent injunction, which is usually two weeks. At the hearing, both sides present their case and the judge makes a determination. And yes, the law already requires people with a domestic violence injunction to surrender their firearms, and you cannot purchase others (there is a question on the background form about this when purchasing from a licensed dealer.) Of course, there are ways to still obtain guns, but it is an arrest able offense if law enforcement discovers it. Anyone can file for an injunction. If the alleged conduct is bad enough, the judge will immediately give a temporary injunction that is only valid until the hearing for the permanent injunction, which is usually two weeks. At the hearing, both sides present their case and the judge makes a determination.

And yes, the law already requires people with a domestic violence injunction to surrender their firearms, and you cannot purchase others (there is a question on the background form about this when purchasing from a licensed dealer.)

Of course, there are ways to still obtain guns, but it is an arrest able offense if law enforcement discovers it.

]]> By: Rufus http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/guns-targeted-in-domestic-violence-stalking-cases/comment-page-1#comment-312862 Rufus Sat, 12 Dec 2015 13:36:27 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=237297#comment-312862 Can't anyone go down to the clerk of court and file a domestic violence injunction? Can’t anyone go down to the clerk of court and file a domestic violence injunction?

]]> By: traumaqueen http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/guns-targeted-in-domestic-violence-stalking-cases/comment-page-1#comment-312842 traumaqueen Sat, 12 Dec 2015 07:10:41 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=237297#comment-312842 Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this already covered within the injunction itself? Am I missing something? Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t this already covered within the injunction itself? Am I missing something?

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