Comments on: Burglar Gets 15 Years http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/burglar-gets-15-years Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Fri, 10 Apr 2026 21:33:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: john http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/burglar-gets-15-years/comment-page-1#comment-313789 john Sat, 26 Dec 2015 02:04:30 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=238390#comment-313789 The most crucial ages for child rearing is between 0-7 years of age, the values you teach them will sustain them, if you wait till the teenage years to teach them, you have already lost the battle! The most crucial ages for child rearing is between 0-7 years of age, the values you teach them will sustain them, if you wait till the teenage years to teach them, you have already lost the battle!

]]> By: john http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/burglar-gets-15-years/comment-page-1#comment-313787 john Sat, 26 Dec 2015 01:27:55 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=238390#comment-313787 As far as what the Bible says about a thief, about the only time you didn't execute them was is he was stealing food to satisfy their hunger, an then they still had to pay restitution. If they broke into your home you could kill them armed or not, and if you didn't kill them the law most likely would, by many means of execution. As far as what the Bible says about a thief, about the only time you didn’t execute them was is he was stealing food to satisfy their hunger, an then they still had to pay restitution. If they broke into your home you could kill them armed or not, and if you didn’t kill them the law most likely would, by many means of execution.

]]> By: idk http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/burglar-gets-15-years/comment-page-1#comment-313734 idk Thu, 24 Dec 2015 20:51:12 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=238390#comment-313734 Sad. I used to go down to special housing and feed this kid in the mail jail when i was inmate worker. Didnt realize what his charges were. He was 16 or 17 when he committed these crimes. I dont think giving a kid 15 years in prison was the right thing.. Give him a chance to change his life before you give him something like that at so young. It will define his whole life. Everybody deserves some kind of chance unless they are sexual offenders or take someones life. And even murderers and molesters are getting less time than that now days and that is the truth.. He might as well have shot somebody dead in the street. Im gunna pray for this kid Sad. I used to go down to special housing and feed this kid in the mail jail when i was inmate worker. Didnt realize what his charges were. He was 16 or 17 when he committed these crimes. I dont think giving a kid 15 years in prison was the right thing.. Give him a chance to change his life before you give him something like that at so young. It will define his whole life. Everybody deserves some kind of chance unless they are sexual offenders or take someones life. And even murderers and molesters are getting less time than that now days and that is the truth.. He might as well have shot somebody dead in the street. Im gunna pray for this kid

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/burglar-gets-15-years/comment-page-1#comment-313677 David Huie Green Thu, 24 Dec 2015 01:06:31 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=238390#comment-313677 Nama, While I don't favor immediate execution of any accused of using a gun or other weapon to rob people, I suspect he is right about its effectiveness. Few would even carry a pellet pistol after the first hundred died. . . . . . That said, never forget accusers sometimes lie. . . . . Separately mentioned, pellet pistols can do much harm ~ including kill, unlikely though that is. Also, pneumatic weapons can be designed to kill. . . . . Dissuading armed robbery might save many more lives than it took. Nama, While I don’t favor immediate execution of any accused of using a gun or other weapon to rob people, I suspect he is right about its effectiveness. Few would even carry a pellet pistol after the first hundred died. . . . . . That said, never forget accusers sometimes lie. . . . . Separately mentioned, pellet pistols can do much harm ~ including kill, unlikely though that is. Also, pneumatic weapons can be designed to kill. . . . . Dissuading armed robbery might save many more lives than it took.

]]> By: Mark http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/burglar-gets-15-years/comment-page-1#comment-313674 Mark Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:53:39 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=238390#comment-313674 @Nama, I was not talking about BB guns or pellet guns, but firearms that are designed to kill. Yes, my example was EXTREAME, however it was to make a point that we need something better than what we have to be a deterrent to committing gun crimes. Banning guns is NOT the answer. We need better deterrents for ALL crimes. There should be no, "Oh, it was your first robbery, we'll let you off with probation for 2 years". Yeah, that's a REAL deterrent to crime! If people were being put away for 5 - 10 years for a first offense, you just watch the crime rate plummet! @Nama, I was not talking about BB guns or pellet guns, but firearms that are designed to kill. Yes, my example was EXTREAME, however it was to make a point that we need something better than what we have to be a deterrent to committing gun crimes. Banning guns is NOT the answer.

We need better deterrents for ALL crimes. There should be no, “Oh, it was your first robbery, we’ll let you off with probation for 2 years”. Yeah, that’s a REAL deterrent to crime! If people were being put away for 5 – 10 years for a first offense, you just watch the crime rate plummet!

]]> By: Nama http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/burglar-gets-15-years/comment-page-1#comment-313665 Nama Wed, 23 Dec 2015 16:50:16 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=238390#comment-313665 Sedition, You ought to become a judge. Your slogan would be no quarter. Of course, no one would ever enter any pleas before you, which means you would try every case with a jury and be the slowest gun on the bench and removed as incompetent. Come back to Earth and live in reality. Of course the Leo knows more, as he has life experience in the area of which you speculate. And, I don't have to be a lawyer or judge to read and understand the law. No one does. Now I can't practice law, which is something altogether different. Namaste Sedition,
You ought to become a judge. Your slogan would be no quarter. Of course, no one would ever enter any pleas before you, which means you would try every case with a jury and be the slowest gun on the bench and removed as incompetent. Come back to Earth and live in reality. Of course the Leo knows more, as he has life experience in the area of which you speculate. And, I don’t have to be a lawyer or judge to read and understand the law. No one does. Now I can’t practice law, which is something altogether different.
Namaste

]]> By: chris in Molino http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/burglar-gets-15-years/comment-page-1#comment-313664 chris in Molino Wed, 23 Dec 2015 16:17:16 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=238390#comment-313664 @mark & sedition The kid didn't break into the home with a gun. He did break in with the intent to steal however, he found the guns inside and stole them. There should be a difference in the law for burglary from someone who breaks in already armed and someone who breaks in and just steals guns. Big difference in their intent, none in the charge or punishment. And what state are you from where there is cable tv and intranet access ? It is not in Florida. Nor do they get three hot meals. The meals they do get my wife's dog wouldn't eat (literally). I'd also wager you couldn't give one of those "hots" you speak of to a homeless person cause theyd tell you no, I eat better on my own. You all would make great journalists, Sheriff's Office Spokesman, or even a White House Correspondent. Perverting the truth to sway public opinion. And this coming from someone who believes most prisoners are animals and should never be released. Just like there are no shades of grey when it comes to breaking the law, nor should there be in truth. @mark & sedition
The kid didn’t break into the home with a gun. He did break in with the intent to steal however, he found the guns inside and stole them. There should be a difference in the law for burglary from someone who breaks in already armed and someone who breaks in and just steals guns. Big difference in their intent, none in the charge or punishment.
And what state are you from where there is cable tv and intranet access ? It is not in Florida. Nor do they get three hot meals. The meals they do get my wife’s dog wouldn’t eat (literally). I’d also wager you couldn’t give one of those “hots” you speak of to a homeless person cause theyd tell you no, I eat better on my own.
You all would make great journalists, Sheriff’s Office Spokesman, or even a White House Correspondent. Perverting the truth to sway public opinion.
And this coming from someone who believes most prisoners are animals and should never be released. Just like there are no shades of grey when it comes to breaking the law, nor should there be in truth.

]]> By: Sedition http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/burglar-gets-15-years/comment-page-1#comment-313660 Sedition Wed, 23 Dec 2015 15:14:36 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=238390#comment-313660 Committing a burglary with a firearm is a first degree felony punishable up to 30 years in prison-1 count. Possession of a firearm by a convicted delinquent under 24 years of age appears to be a second degree felony punishable up to 15 years-1 count. Burglary of unoccupied dwelling-3rd degree felony punishable up to 5 years in prison-1 count. Burglary of unoccupied conveyance-3rd degree felony punishable up to 5 years in prison-2 counts. Grand theft of a firearm is a 3rd degree felony punishable up to 5 years in prison-8 counts. Grand theft auto, unless they were very expensive cars, 3rd degree felony punishable up to 5 years in prison-1 count. Grand theft, no money value given, so let's treat it a the lowest felony...3rd degree punishable up to 5 years in prison-3 counts. Resisting officer without violence first degree misdemeanor, with penalties of up to 1 year-1 count. Petit theft, no dollar amount given, so use the lowest 2nd degree punishable up to 6 months in prison and 6 months suspension of driver's license-1 count. Criminal mischief with no dollar value given so let's use the lowest form of 2nd degree misdemeanor punishable up to 60 days in jail-1 count. Not counting fines and probation, he faced up to 121+ years in prison, and you think that 15 years is OK? No, Nama and Esc co Leo, he got off with a comparable slap on the wrist. He will be released early and will re-offend. Experience and perspective of an LEO mean nothing, Nama. LOEs know very little about the law...it's not their job. It's the Court's job to know and apply the law. Committing a burglary with a firearm is a first degree felony punishable up to 30 years in prison-1 count.
Possession of a firearm by a convicted delinquent under 24 years of age appears to be a second degree felony punishable up to 15 years-1 count.
Burglary of unoccupied dwelling-3rd degree felony punishable up to 5 years in prison-1 count.
Burglary of unoccupied conveyance-3rd degree felony punishable up to 5 years in prison-2 counts.
Grand theft of a firearm is a 3rd degree felony punishable up to 5 years in prison-8 counts.
Grand theft auto, unless they were very expensive cars, 3rd degree felony punishable up to 5 years in prison-1 count.
Grand theft, no money value given, so let’s treat it a the lowest felony…3rd degree punishable up to 5 years in prison-3 counts.
Resisting officer without violence first degree misdemeanor, with penalties of up to 1 year-1 count.
Petit theft, no dollar amount given, so use the lowest 2nd degree punishable up to 6 months in prison and 6 months suspension of driver’s license-1 count.
Criminal mischief with no dollar value given so let’s use the lowest form of 2nd degree misdemeanor punishable up to 60 days in jail-1 count.

Not counting fines and probation, he faced up to 121+ years in prison, and you think that 15 years is OK?

No, Nama and Esc co Leo, he got off with a comparable slap on the wrist. He will be released early and will re-offend.

Experience and perspective of an LEO mean nothing, Nama. LOEs know very little about the law…it’s not their job. It’s the Court’s job to know and apply the law.

]]> By: Nama http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/burglar-gets-15-years/comment-page-1#comment-313653 Nama Wed, 23 Dec 2015 13:57:04 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=238390#comment-313653 Mark Your frustratration is mine, too. But, summary executions? What if your son shoplifts with a buddy. The buddy is approached by a store employee. He pulls out a pellet gun and both are able to get away. Of course, they're caught 2 minutes later. Both taken out back and shot? Come on, you and mama are going to beg for mercy. If we are going to live in fantasy land, how about requiring a license to be a parent? How about criminally punishing the parent, especially the dad, for junior's crime? I think Leo knows more than all of us. This guy entered a plea, got 15 years plus 10 years probation. It seems the system worked as best it could in our dysfunctional family plagued nation. Namaste Mark
Your frustratration is mine, too. But, summary executions? What if your son shoplifts with a buddy. The buddy is approached by a store employee. He pulls out a pellet gun and both are able to get away. Of course, they’re caught 2 minutes later. Both taken out back and shot? Come on, you and mama are going to beg for mercy. If we are going to live in fantasy land, how about requiring a license to be a parent? How about criminally punishing the parent, especially the dad, for junior’s crime? I think Leo knows more than all of us. This guy entered a plea, got 15 years plus 10 years probation. It seems the system worked as best it could in our dysfunctional family plagued nation.
Namaste

]]> By: chris in Molino http://www.northescambia.com/2015/12/burglar-gets-15-years/comment-page-1#comment-313649 chris in Molino Wed, 23 Dec 2015 13:03:23 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=238390#comment-313649 @area resident Institutions that have a weight room have fixed weights on the bar. Back around 1999 weights were taken from prisons because convicts were so big and gaurds were intimidated. Color tvs, please. They have one of the oldest tvs you've ever seen (28 in) for about a dorm of 90 people. It's a means of control. Once locked in the dorm they have to have something to occupy them or else there'd be trouble. BTW, weights, tvs, and anything recreational is either donated or paid for by the more than $100 million per year the state makes from inmates. The only facilities with a/c are one of 4or5 private institutions which is a form of punishment itself. I know they deserve to be there but it's like not giving inmates in North Dakota heat. Oh, at the East Unit in Starke, (FSP) tempatures used to reach 130 in summer and down to the low 40's in winter until class action changed that. It was one of the countless extra penalties not mentioned by judges when sentanced. Also, FDOC do what they have to due to social perception or political pressure. However, they aren't in the business of rehabilitation nor do they want to be. They want and inmate to return. It's a business. @area resident
Institutions that have a weight room have fixed weights on the bar. Back around 1999 weights were taken from prisons because convicts were so big and gaurds were intimidated. Color tvs, please. They have one of the oldest tvs you’ve ever seen (28 in) for about a dorm of 90 people. It’s a means of control. Once locked in the dorm they have to have something to occupy them or else there’d be trouble. BTW, weights, tvs, and anything recreational is either donated or paid for by the more than $100 million per year the state makes from inmates.
The only facilities with a/c are one of 4or5 private institutions which is a form of punishment itself. I know they deserve to be there but it’s like not giving inmates in North Dakota heat. Oh, at the East Unit in Starke, (FSP) tempatures used to reach 130 in summer and down to the low 40’s in winter until class action changed that. It was one of the countless extra penalties not mentioned by judges when sentanced.
Also, FDOC do what they have to due to social perception or political pressure. However, they aren’t in the business of rehabilitation nor do they want to be. They want and inmate to return. It’s a business.

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