Comments on: Second Amendment Group Argues For Guns In University Dorms

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Sat, 18 Jul 2015 03:01:34 +0000

Words have meaning.
Madison probably didn’t consider the contradiction or else he didn’t consider universities part of government.
Schools weren’t considered part of government with 14th Amendment extention into much later.
(Like I said, I’m not considering the wisdom, just the fundamental law.)

David for honesty

By: CG Green

CG Green — Fri, 17 Jul 2015 18:10:08 +0000

If only the author of the Second Amendment could simply have told us how it should apply to campus life…if only…

“5. No student shall, within the precincts of the University, introduce, keep or use weapons or arms of any kind, or gun-powder; nor keep a servant, horse or dog.”

– JAMES MADISON, Rector
December, 1826
Enactments by the Rector [President] and Visitors [Regents] of The University of Virginia, For Constituting, Governing And Conducting That Institution. Chapter VI. Police.

But surely Madison was just a rogue — a radical — who wanted to leave those students unarmed and defenseless, to satisfy his liberal lust for all-powerful government…surely…

“No Student shall, within the precincts of the University, introduce, keep or use any \spirituous/ or vinous liquors, keep or use weapons or arms of any kind, or gunpowder, keep a servant, horse or dog, appear in school with a stick, or any weapon, nor, while in school, be covered [disguised, hooded] without permission of the Professor, nor use tobacco by smoking or chewing, on pain of any of the minor punishments at the discretion of the Faculty, or of the board of Censors, approved by the Faculty.”

– Th: Jefferson Rector.
October 5th 1824.
“At a meeting of the Visitors of the University, at the University [of Virginia] on Monday 4th of October 1824. at which were present Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Breckenridge, John H. Cocke, George Loyall and Joseph C. Cabell…”

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 22:20:42 +0000

REGARDING;
“How on earth did I ever live this long without ever touching a gun? I’ll have to ask a member of the well-regulated militia next time I see one.”

You depended on others to protect you.

Membership in the state militia is not required by the Second Amendment, it simply states the States need them but that the right to bear arms can not be infringed.

The expressed protection was for the individual state, not for the united states.

The prohibition is also interesting in that it doesn’t forbid just Congress from infringing, but any infringement. That would include the State, County, City.
(And even if it hadn’t, the 14th Amendment would have.)

This is not to say that everyone should run around armed to the teeth, just that legally, any infringement is illegal.

AND
“I guess I will say this once more.. Why are we the only Western Country in the world allowing this madness to continue!”

Because we are the only stupid or crazy ones? as you imply.

Or because we have seen people enslaved by tyrannical governments and slaughtered by the million because they couldn’t defend themselves. It’s going on today in countries all over the world where only the criminals are armed, sometimes those criminals are even the people’s own governments, or they are that government’s subjects.

Most importantly, it continues to go on because people such as yourself have not convinced a majority of citizens to amend the constitution to take away that right and disarm those who obey the laws.

David for sane, law-abiding people
and the means to stop those who aren’t

By: Facetious Bob

Facetious Bob — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:05:30 +0000

@ Bob B

Having a gun is sort of like having a fire extinguisher. You might need one at any given time. I’ve got at least a couple of each, and I know where they are and how to use them.

By: Greg

Greg — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 18:03:30 +0000

@Bob B
God forbid you don’t find yourself in a situation tomorrow where just the sight of a gun could save your life or your family’s. Have you seen the video of the traffic altercation at the beach a couple of days ago? Things can happen real fast , and get real ugly way before a policeman can show up. I’m glad to know you’ve never needed one, there are many that did need one and aren’t here today.

By: Bob B

Bob B — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 16:55:53 +0000

Sigh. It’s impossible to talk sense to the people with gun fetishes. They love their guns. They NEED their guns. They can’t be away from their guns.

How on earth did I ever live this long without ever touching a gun? I’ll have to ask a member of the well-regulated militia next time I see one.

By: Tom

Tom — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 18:45:55 +0000

I guess I will say this once more.. Why are we the only Western Country in the world allowing this madness to continue! Next it will be Weapons in Nursing homes, Guns for Daycare Workers. Please tell me when enough is enough, When every business and organization and Person in this country carries hand guns. It would just be nice if for once we could actually look at other Democracies and just maybe actually learn something new. We already lead the world in School shootings, Please tell me mass shootings are More common in the United Kingdom, Germany, Australia, Canada or any nation where guns are strictly enforced, And used for actually hunting.

By: EPenn

EPenn — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 18:36:31 +0000

Myself and my roommates up in Pennsylvania in the early 80s kept our black powder rifles in our dorm rooms… Never had a problem… of course that was in the days when we also had shooting teams in High School…

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:33:31 +0000

It is not just young people that go to college. Guns do not kill people, it is mentally disturbed people that do. They do not need a gun either. They can use knives, poison, hammers, screwdrivers, cars, or anything else you can think of. If responsible gun owners were able to conceal carry on campus, then maybe they could stop an incident when the police are not there and save many more lives. They should at least be able to protect themselves. That is the purpose of having a concealed carry permit.

By: Jane

Jane — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 10:40:36 +0000

I am not sure young people have the good sense to know when to use a gun and when not to. I am sure some do but there are others who might think of them as entertainment. If someone in a dorm should have a gun it needs to be an adult with a lot of common sense.