Comments on: Changes Coming To Sheriff’s Office Cantonment/Molino Precinct

By: Gman

Gman — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 10:09:12 +0000

Every election we get the same ol promises made, promises not kept. More officers will be assigned to Molino and it never happens. With the population explosion north of nine mile every citizen should be concerned. If the almighty sheriff feels that a joint muster is needed then the supervisor should attend and then pass along the info obtained to each of the two officers working that shift.

By: Mike Amerson

Mike Amerson — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 01:29:15 +0000

Other than Jay and Kevin, do any of you all have any idea just how long the Cantonment/Molino Pct has been short handed? It has just about always been 2 on days, 2 some times 3 on eves and if your lucky, 2 on midnights. Now I know the numbers people at the S/O will say calls for service doesn’t meet any more Officers up there. If you have someone that goes to jail with a prisoner, then you’re normally down to 1 Officer up there until the other gets back. If it’s a DUI, you can count that Officer out for about 4 hours. If you have someone out sick etc.. you’re down again to 1 Officer. For the most part, there’s always been working Supervisors up there that understood the shortages but even then, West Roberts Road to Camp-of-The-Pines over to Santa Rosa one way and Alabama the other is a long way to drive when you’re being burglarized, getting your butt beat or being raped by someone. I complained, both Jay and Kevin complained trying to get more Officers up there and have always been told the calls for service doesn’t warrant the additional Officers. It’s sad to say, but it will take someones kin who’s a big monetary supporter of local Politics and/or an Officer to be killed before they’ll put more Officers up there. It’s always been react in lieu of act around that Office anyway. Every Sheriff that’s been in Office or wanted to be have always used the platform of putting more Officers up there to gain votes/support and it never fails once the Election is over, so is the idea of more Officers. Good luck to all you citizens up there on this topic with your Sheriff and make sure you brush up on the “Stand your Ground Law”. I for one have no problem with any of you dropping one trying to harm you or your family. Take care. Mike

By: Jennifer&chris

Jennifer&chris — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:27:43 +0000

Jay Camac for sheriff because his ideas make sense!!!

By: Patriot

Patriot — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:56:12 +0000

Whether the deputies muster or not or where the muster occurs is of little consequence.
What we should be discussing is the fact that there will not be any deputies permanently assigned to Cantonment/Molino. The Ensley precinct will “assign” a couple bodies up here on a daily basis. As Mr Camac stated, they will be pulled south to answer calls in Ensley and there will be no one up here.
There will be no ownership. We will lose the “local knowledge”. Most of the the deputies that work at the sheriff’s office have no idea how to get to Fairground Road, or Forehand Lane for instance.
Proactive patrol will virtually disappear within 4 months, and response times will increase by a sizable margin.

By: Elmo

Elmo — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 05:50:59 +0000

I worked in corrections and we called it guard mount. I have been around long enough to know that a law enforcement department can have the best of modern technology, but if you take that human face to face factor out it, you’re not going to be nearly as successful as you would have been with it. These officers are not just sitting around wasting time or lolly gagging, they are relaying pertinent information to their relieving shift. It always has been and will continue to be very vital for that human camaraderie at shift change in law enforcement.

By: Stumpknocker

Stumpknocker — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 02:50:03 +0000

The people thinking that mustering at the beginning of the shift is a waste of time,you could not be more wrong if you tried. At muster the deputy’s exchange information about people,cases their working and calls that they may have worked the previous shift,to include training. You can’t complete everything on a lap top or by texting the human element is needed here. Information shared among law enforcement is the most powerful tool, even more so then what’s carried on their gun belt.

As for how all this will work out only time will tell.

By: Jay Camac

Jay Camac — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 00:31:38 +0000

Sage 2 It is not a perceived problem when the number of deputy sheriffs employed at the Escambia County Sheriffs Office is at or below the number that were employed in 1994 when I started my employment there. It is also not a perceived problem when many shifts at the sheriffs office are short staffed. It is not a perceived problem when most units in the investigations section at the sheriffs office have fewer deputies than they did in 2008 when Sheriff Morgan took office. This is the reason why this new and improved staffing in Precinct 5 is happening. Bottom line, if it is implemented as it stands, there will be fewer deputies patrolling Precinct 5. While I have been retired for 3 years, I still have many former colleagues that keep in regular touch with me and I know the problems that the sheriffs office is experiencing. Precinct 5 has suffered staffing issues. You are correct, the citizens will make the final determination whether this plan has an impact on service and the crime rate in Precinct. 5 and I am now one of those citizens.

By: Sage 2

Sage 2 — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:16:23 +0000

All the comments…pro or con reflect somebody trying to relate a solution to a “problem” perceived either by the public or retired ECSO officers. Walk a day in the shoes of a law enforcement officer. If retired, you have experience…but enjoy your retirement, you’ve earned it and are still here to talk about “circumstances.”

Our job as citizens, are to support the Sheriff and upon finding him unworthy to hold office, vote him out. We pay this sheriff to make decisions based on sound input to render US the best service possible.

Otherwise, cut the chatter, get on the train and call the ECSO if you have a problem with either the administration, behavior or implementation of the Florida Statutes, applicable and back up your call with a letter or email to the appropriate source.

Remember, the law enforcement officers are what keeps this society of OURS civil, to say the least.

By: Chris in Molino

Chris in Molino — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:55:59 +0000

@Oversight
I miss the “good ol days”. Dealing with these new tech punks is like dealing with a robot. No discretion whatsoever. However, it’s not just deputies. It’s FWC, teachers, employers, children, etc. Everyone is worshipping the image of the beast= computer. I’d literally give an eye to live my life anytime before the 1990’s. So just like mine, yours is an opinion. You don’t speak for me. Besides, we give deputies the power to use force but they can’t make their own choice on how to communicate ? WTH !

By: Doc for safety of citizens and that of our deputies.

Doc for safety of citizens and that of our deputies. — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 21:53:23 +0000

I feel that this is being sugar coated by the SO with wording. I’m sure it looks good on paper, but when it comes to boots on the ground, this won’t be good.
The north end folks need to be prepared for longer response times, especially when the Ensley area deputies get overloaded with calls. The few deputies who get put in the new”Molino/Cantonment” district will be most likely be pulled to go south.
Question to ask: if a deputy is in trouble at the north end of the new Molino district and his back-up is coming from the north end of Ensley, ( West Roberts Road) how long will it take for the deputy in need to get help? SECONDS COUNT!!!