Comments on: Prisons Chief Says Proposed Changes Already Underway http://www.northescambia.com/2015/02/prisons-chiefs-say-proposed-changes-already-underway Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Tue, 14 Apr 2026 00:33:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Colleen http://www.northescambia.com/2015/02/prisons-chiefs-say-proposed-changes-already-underway/comment-page-1#comment-315391 Colleen Mon, 25 Jan 2016 01:44:25 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=205393#comment-315391 Chris in Molina, you are just the type that makes a CO's day hard. You think you know everything but if you do why were you in prison. I am a CO and I work hard, still making the same pay that I stated at 9 years ago. As far as the twelve hour shifts, this is the fairest work schedule there has ever been. Everyone gets weekend time with their families. Yes there are lazy CO's.. Management should deal with them. Management doesn't deal with any problem CO's, so they are a large part of the problem. The talk about 8 hr. rotating shifts is insane. This was tried years ago and it did not work. Why doesn't anyone talk to the people who work the compound and ask for our imput. After all we are the ones doing the job. You can have surveyors come in all you want but they don't work the job so what do they know. I am sick to death of hearing what scum we are., and the people judging us could never do the job we do. We are under staffed, under paid, and most definitely not treated well. I get more respect from the inmates then most of the people I work with and for. Chris in Molina, you are just the type that makes a CO’s day hard. You think you know everything but if you do why were you in prison. I am a CO and I work hard, still making the same pay that I stated at 9 years ago. As far as the twelve hour shifts, this is the fairest work schedule there has ever been. Everyone gets weekend time with their families. Yes there are lazy CO’s.. Management should deal with them. Management doesn’t deal with any problem CO’s, so they are a large part of the problem. The talk about 8 hr. rotating shifts is insane. This was tried years ago and it did not work. Why doesn’t anyone talk to the people who work the compound and ask for our imput. After all we are the ones doing the job. You can have surveyors come in all you want but they don’t work the job so what do they know. I am sick to death of hearing what scum we are., and the people judging us could never do the job we do. We are under staffed, under paid, and most definitely not treated well. I get more respect from the inmates then most of the people I work with and for.

]]> By: NWFRC co http://www.northescambia.com/2015/02/prisons-chiefs-say-proposed-changes-already-underway/comment-page-1#comment-293264 NWFRC co Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:40:56 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=205393#comment-293264 You think we don't do anything. ..try doing our job for a month...YOU COULDN'T HANG!!! 12 hour shifts are not the problem. We are extremely under paid...extremely under staffed...any other law enforcement job has step raises, tenure raises, performance bonuses, physical fitness incentives You think we don’t do anything. ..try doing our job for a month…YOU COULDN’T HANG!!! 12 hour shifts are not the problem. We are extremely under paid…extremely under staffed…any other law enforcement job has step raises, tenure raises, performance bonuses, physical fitness incentives

]]> By: co/female http://www.northescambia.com/2015/02/prisons-chiefs-say-proposed-changes-already-underway/comment-page-1#comment-291737 co/female Wed, 04 Feb 2015 22:59:16 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=205393#comment-291737 To curious you are an idiot and to Chris in molino..like we need your input from behind the bars. The problem is alot of what has already been said.....no decent euipment, low pay, lack of staff and lazy officers that come to work to socialize on the phone for 12 hours. Their is a lack of professionalism by the administration who seem to only care about their image and about who's on the other side of their text that they are sending. It's also about babying even the most problem causing inmates who are much more important than us officers. At Century a female officer was attacked and had to have stitches in her head a few weeks ago and the admin. rewards the inmates by letting them go to the canteen the same day but let an inmate get sliced in the face and they order the officers to go in and tear the dorm up. Now where does the real problem lay. It starts from unconcerned majors, colonels and wardens all the way to the govenor. Get rid of you lazy officers but also get rid of your lazy wardens. Stop lining your pockets from kick backs and start dealing with the real problems all officers face each day. We are not watching a bunch of school children. There are 1400 murders, rapists, drug heads etc...with around 35 to 40 staff tring to keep everthing safe and running smoothly. Help us out. Someone should be listening. To curious you are an idiot and to Chris in molino..like we need your input from behind the bars. The problem is alot of what has already been said…..no decent euipment, low pay, lack of staff and lazy officers that come to work to socialize on the phone for 12 hours. Their is a lack of professionalism by the administration who seem to only care about their image and about who’s on the other side of their text that they are sending. It’s also about babying even the most problem causing inmates who are much more important than us officers. At Century a female officer was attacked and had to have stitches in her head a few weeks ago and the admin. rewards the inmates by letting them go to the canteen the same day but let an inmate get sliced in the face and they order the officers to go in and tear the dorm up. Now where does the real problem lay. It starts from unconcerned majors, colonels and wardens all the way to the govenor. Get rid of you lazy officers but also get rid of your lazy wardens. Stop lining your pockets from kick backs and start dealing with the real problems all officers face each day. We are not watching a bunch of school children. There are 1400 murders, rapists, drug heads etc…with around 35 to 40 staff tring to keep everthing safe and running smoothly. Help us out. Someone should be listening.

]]> By: chris in Molino http://www.northescambia.com/2015/02/prisons-chiefs-say-proposed-changes-already-underway/comment-page-1#comment-291723 chris in Molino Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:45:04 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=205393#comment-291723 @CO2, Convenience store pay, really ? Theres numerous jobs that require more intelligence, physical capabilities, and a four year degree that pay much less than the starting salary of $33k for a CO. And that in a matter of mere months. @CO Wife & curious, safety of CO'S, come on. Ive been inside. This isn't the 80's & early 90's. There are no more riots, very very rarely an assault on an officer, and rarely a fight amoung inmates. Everything is controlled now. No free movement at all. Dorms stay locked. Heck, you need a pass to go get a pass. So save that bull about safety from someone who knows better. At FSP they gas inmates just for talking. I have witnessed assaults on officers 20-25 years ago (NONE of which were unprovoked or undeserving) @CO2, Convenience store pay, really ? Theres numerous jobs that require more intelligence, physical capabilities, and a four year degree that pay much less than the starting salary of $33k for a CO. And that in a matter of mere months.
@CO Wife & curious, safety of CO’S, come on. Ive been inside. This isn’t the 80’s & early 90’s. There are no more riots, very very rarely an assault on an officer, and rarely a fight amoung inmates. Everything is controlled now. No free movement at all. Dorms stay locked. Heck, you need a pass to go get a pass. So save that bull about safety from someone who knows better. At FSP they gas inmates just for talking. I have witnessed assaults on officers 20-25 years ago (NONE of which were unprovoked or undeserving)

]]> By: armyjeep92 http://www.northescambia.com/2015/02/prisons-chiefs-say-proposed-changes-already-underway/comment-page-1#comment-291721 armyjeep92 Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:15:56 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=205393#comment-291721 everybody quick to judge prison staff but have probally never worked in a place like this when somebody breaks the law in a bad way every body says lock them up and throw away the key well somebody has to shower and feed these inmates and all the other programs they need iv been employed for 8 years not a long time but not one raise since iv been here take more do more with less staff is how people get hurt 12 hrs shift are great for the days off but thats about it not good for the staff that work in close mangement dorms or mental health settings everybody quick to judge prison staff but have probally never worked in a place like this when somebody breaks the law in a bad way every body says lock them up and throw away the key well somebody has to shower and feed these inmates and all the other programs they need iv been employed for 8 years not a long time but not one raise since iv been here take more do more with less staff is how people get hurt 12 hrs shift are great for the days off but thats about it not good for the staff that work in close mangement dorms or mental health settings

]]> By: cj http://www.northescambia.com/2015/02/prisons-chiefs-say-proposed-changes-already-underway/comment-page-1#comment-291684 cj Wed, 04 Feb 2015 05:12:43 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=205393#comment-291684 My son is a CO - the 12 hour shifts are not the problem - staff shortage is - when they put more and more on the staff because of all the cuts and people leaving for better pay and no replacement personnel. My son is a CO – the 12 hour shifts are not the problem – staff shortage is – when they put more and more on the staff because of all the cuts and people leaving for better pay and no replacement personnel.

]]> By: CO PT http://www.northescambia.com/2015/02/prisons-chiefs-say-proposed-changes-already-underway/comment-page-1#comment-291674 CO PT Wed, 04 Feb 2015 02:47:14 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=205393#comment-291674 Pay Raise!!! More Staff!!! Well a raise would definitely keep some of the better staff around no doubt in my mind. I've watched alote of good staff leave the prison due to being under payed in the past 10 years. More staff would ensure that ofc. could take a day off if they where overworked. Pay raise!!! More Staff!! Pay Raise!!! More Staff!!! Well a raise would definitely keep some of the better staff around no doubt in my mind. I’ve watched alote of good staff leave the prison due to being under payed in the past 10 years. More staff would ensure that ofc. could take a day off if they where overworked. Pay raise!!! More Staff!!

]]> By: No Excuses http://www.northescambia.com/2015/02/prisons-chiefs-say-proposed-changes-already-underway/comment-page-1#comment-291671 No Excuses Wed, 04 Feb 2015 01:26:04 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=205393#comment-291671 @ c.w. Sometimes, retired professional are the very people to do the job they are called back to do. If she can make things better for CO's and for the inmates, she can be a triple dipper for all I care. Gman has made the best observations: Training, proper staffing levels and good, experiences people. Put those who are overweight on notice. It IS a safety issue to have people who can't or won't respond to emergencies and/or equipment that fails at the crucial moment. Don't agree about the comments from other posters about women, though. Women can observe, report, build rapport with the inmate population as well as men can. Properly trained women with working equipment are equally effective CO's. Don't make this a sex issue. It's a problem that needs fixing. The above common sense suggestions should be implemented to start - then other things can be tried if those fail to bring a noticeable improvement. @ c.w. Sometimes, retired professional are the very people to do the job they are called back to do. If she can make things better for CO’s and for the inmates, she can be a triple dipper for all I care.

Gman has made the best observations: Training, proper staffing levels and good, experiences people. Put those who are overweight on notice. It IS a safety issue to have people who can’t or won’t respond to emergencies and/or equipment that fails at the crucial moment. Don’t agree about the comments from other posters about women, though. Women can observe, report, build rapport with the inmate population as well as men can. Properly trained women with working equipment are equally effective CO’s. Don’t make this a sex issue.

It’s a problem that needs fixing. The above common sense suggestions should be implemented to start – then other things can be tried if those fail to bring a noticeable improvement.

]]> By: chris in Molino http://www.northescambia.com/2015/02/prisons-chiefs-say-proposed-changes-already-underway/comment-page-1#comment-291656 chris in Molino Tue, 03 Feb 2015 19:50:59 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=205393#comment-291656 IT'S ALL CRAP. CO's make plenty now. $33K after a few months of "school". Besides that, you dont do anything. Not short-staffed. Utilize the staff you have. When inside security comes to help for master count, why should they sit in the dorm with you to shoot the breeze for an hour. Nothing will change for the inmate, if only for the worse. Security will find ways around rules as always. Ie; when video had to be used for use of force, they'd shut off the cameras, beat the hell outta an inmate and say they had to change the battery and the inmate resisted. When they killed Frank Valdez, they were telling him to stop resisting as they were stomping him. I personally witnessed a few murders at FSP and one at Lake Butler. I've seen more beatings by gaurds than inmate fights. You can bet DOC will be watching the vote on any bill Because they run politicians in the triangle. IT’S ALL CRAP. CO’s make plenty now. $33K after a few months of “school”. Besides that, you dont do anything. Not short-staffed. Utilize the staff you have. When inside security comes to help for master count, why should they sit in the dorm with you to shoot the breeze for an hour. Nothing will change for the inmate, if only for the worse. Security will find ways around rules as always. Ie; when video had to be used for use of force, they’d shut off the cameras, beat the hell outta an inmate and say they had to change the battery and the inmate resisted. When they killed Frank Valdez, they were telling him to stop resisting as they were stomping him. I personally witnessed a few murders at FSP and one at Lake Butler. I’ve seen more beatings by gaurds than inmate fights. You can bet DOC will be watching the vote on any bill Because they run politicians in the triangle.

]]> By: C02 http://www.northescambia.com/2015/02/prisons-chiefs-say-proposed-changes-already-underway/comment-page-1#comment-291623 C02 Tue, 03 Feb 2015 13:40:58 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=205393#comment-291623 @curious. Your saying don't hire women or transfer them.. You talk about women but the women actually do more work than the men and better , so before you low grade us one of us may have to save your life from that inmate that's beating your behind for those racial slurs that's being frequently used. 12 hour shifts are great, but you have people that will never be satisfied about anything or get mad cause they can't work were they choose and then they will call in sick making the shift short but 8 hour shifts will not change it because people will call in even more because of there awful days off. At on a 12 hour shift we look forward to having ever other weekend off.. But A PAY INCREASE AND NOT A BONUS will help the moral alot..your making us pay into our retirement and yiu want us to do so much for a convenient store salary.. @curious. Your saying don’t hire women or transfer them..
You talk about women but the women actually do more work than the men and better , so before you low grade us one of us may have to save your life from that inmate that’s beating your behind for those racial slurs that’s being frequently used.
12 hour shifts are great, but you have people that will never be satisfied about anything or get mad cause they can’t work were they choose and then they will call in sick making the shift short but 8 hour shifts will not change it because people will call in even more because of there awful days off. At on a 12 hour shift we look forward to having ever other weekend off..
But A PAY INCREASE AND NOT A BONUS will help the moral alot..your making us pay into our retirement and yiu want us to do so much for a convenient store salary..

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