Comments on: State Sued Over Deer Dog Hunts In The Blackwater Forest

By: sarge

sarge — Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:25:54 +0000

Wait, it’s ok to break the law, anybody has the right to break the law! anybody has the right to use a defense,”I have been doing this for years , so that gives me the right to break the law”, right TRESPASSING is a heritage given right . SOUNDS like “we been breaking the law up here for years and we have the right to do this if you don’t like us breaking the law up here you shouldn’t have moved up here”. HUNTING was allowed for a man to feed his family. It’s a sport now It’s bragging rights so a hunter can puff out his or her chest and say’”I killed a deer”Say its I like to hear dogs run the deer .Not everybody that stand or still hunts over corns or hunts over a greenfield, Doghunting nor still/stand hunting is easy , BUT we are missing the issue,TRESPASSING, if I come in or on your property and I am doing anything you don’t cater to, then you have the landowners right to say NO to it. YOUR right if you own the land , doesn’t matter where the land is. “well this was going on before they moved up here” doesn’t provide a valid legal defense my rights as a property owner are actually a more valid and legal defense than we been doing this for generations as to either side breaking the law to further their point of view ,THEN they should be held accountable for their actions. THINK TRESPASSING is not LEGAL anywhere. Anybody can legally own land anywhere they find and its affordable for purchase, it is not legal anywhere to trespass on a landowners property w/out written and notarized permission in your hand, all a landowner in our urban (cities)has to say is NO don’t want you on my land. and you have to leave , SR county does not have a leash law , but if your dog TRESPASSES , youcan be held responsible, TRESPASS is the issue and it is an issue anywhere in the UNITED STATES

By: kem sellers

kem sellers — Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:11:30 +0000

I have only live here where the dog hunt area is for a short time..the dogs run all over us..i have horses too,,they don’t like the dogs rather..the dog hunters and very rude,,they call us names,threaten us,to shoot our horses,they speed,dump trash out,drink beer,and they lie..this is what I know about them..and I don’t like it…stop the dog hunting,,

By: Lee

Lee — Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:48:38 +0000

As someone who actually hunts in this area and have since i was a little boy, and actually lived two miles past the where the daws live right in the middle of the dog hunting section. I never had aproblem with any hunters around my property. The problem is that they were told about the dog hunting area by several people before purchasing land and most of the hunters in that area have went as far as posting signs saying no hunting or shooting before the daws property and around several areas on cleveland rd and cotton rd. bottom line is they bought property after being warned now want to complain about the area

By: lena

lena — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 00:06:49 +0000

Where I’m from in Mississippi, dogs that cross private property get shot. Be thankful the city slickers are only suing.

By: Hound lover

Hound lover — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 02:40:36 +0000

Let me take a few minutes to educate you a all about the plight of the coonhound. I understand that hunting laws are protected. But it is criminal how most IRRESPONSIBLE hunters treat their dogs. Hounds are treated like inanimate throw away objects. Very few hunting hounds have had any vetting whatsoever, to include neutering or spaying. These hunters find it more “economical” to release the hounds from the boxes on the back of their trucks at the end if hunting season, into the woods to fend for themselves. They would rather do this than feed the dogs until next season. Leaving them to starve to death or found as strays and picked up by animal control and taken to the animal shelter where they haven’t a prayer to be adopted. Only the pit bull breed is euthanized more than the coonhound. BUT these are the lucky ones. Those that aren’t earning their keep with their keen hunting skills, are usually shot. It sickens me that these beautiful, breathing, soulful, loving creatures are treated like they are simply objects.
I work tirelessly with a coonhound rescue trying to save as many hounds as possible from the hands of such cruelty. But there are simply too many that are abandoned, abused and thrown away that we can’t keep up. These magnificent creatures make wonderful and loyal companions. I have rescued 4 of my own and always have several that I foster. There may be responsible hunters that treat their hounds well and provide vet care and actually feed them…. I just haven’t ever known one.

By: Bill

Bill — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 21:43:14 +0000

I am not a dog hunter and I don’t disapprove of dog hunting. It’s the method they use that creates a problem, like turning dogs loose on one side of private land and 3 or 4 truck loads race to the other side to shoot the deer flushed out of the private land. Dog hunters can’t deny this. This method of hunting doesn’t belong in a residential neighborhood. That being said, dog hunting is a worthy sport that could be saved by the fl legislators. They have been aware of this problem for a long time and have done nothing to help preserve the sport. Unfortunately, the laws that have been broken were mostly by dogs and it’s in the hands of the courts and they make judgements based on law so the dog hunters will lose every time. You can hang devices on dogs till they drop but it will never stop them from crossing property lines. So dog hunters demand the legislators who are supposed to work for you do so and save your sport.

By: David

David — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 13:26:01 +0000

I stand corrected! Hunting is protected as a right in Florida by legislative act (F.S. 379.104). However, here’s where those devilish details come In. The ‘right to hunt’ is subject to “general law” and the Florida Constitution Section 9 Article 4 (the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission). Which means, they can tell us when, where, and how we can hunt. And, they must not violate other laws in doing so.
Therein rests the basis for the pending lawsuit, which as best as I can tell, alleges that FWCC is allowing dog hunting while knowing that it will violate the property rights of citizens. The Constitution does not give them the authority to do that.
So it still comes down to the fact that no one has the right to allow their hunting dogs to trespass! “we can’t help it, dogs can’t read” excuses don’t count.

By: R. T.

R. T. — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 03:54:04 +0000

I feel at this time, that I reply to comments being made. What is not being seen is that this is not about the Daws. This is about a group of 42 private land owners within the Blackwater WMA that is backing this lawsuit to the fullest along with the Daws. And after they win their lawsuit, then we all get to file. Because, you can’t continue to break the law and expect to get away with it. Land owners are fed up with being run over . p s and some body was right we will win this too . Dog hunting in black water is over now get u some of that .

By: James

James — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 00:19:42 +0000

Actually. ..anonymous you interjected your opinion as fact then at the bottom you seem to say well you dont actually know…Well try a simple Google search or call your local FWC office…Not only is it a Constitutional Right to hunt and fish as well..but it is against the law to Harass or impede a legal hunter or fisher man from hunting fishing or taking of any legal game…Been down this road before …There are actually a lot of laws and constitutional rights specific to hunters ..These are just some …if you dispute my knowledge on the subject ..I will accept your oppinion. ..as I have my own ..I stated that everyone has their oppinion but you can’t state facts and have people with no clue of the laws and facts believe you know what your talking about… I am on both sides of this fence as a property owner I want some of the same things they want..As for the dogs…if youve never dog hunted you have no clue how much money is involved in dog hunting thousands in food and vet care tracking systems and collars dog boxes training…You Would Be Extremely Hard Pressed to find anybody who dog Hunts who even remotely wants this to happen…We have been forced to this small area by FWC and these same scenario s year after year…BETWEEN ESC RIVER MANAGEMENT LAND AND BLACK WATER Management land hundreds of thousands of acres have been taken in the past twenty years and is now left this small section of useable land….. and like I said this will never END WE Have lost year after Year.

By: David

David — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 19:44:55 +0000

Awful lot of comments suggesting that everybody else get their facts right. So, here’s a couple of facts.
1. Every property owner has the right to use their property commensurate with the laws of Florida and the U. S. Constitution. Including the right to ‘exclude’.
2. Florida law: FAC 68A-12.007 (2) specifically addresses the use of hunting dogs. “No person, owning, h having the care of, or using any dog, shall permit such dog to trail,pursue or molest wildlife on the lands of another person without written permission”…..
So….for those who complain about losing their ‘right’ to hunt, another fact. Hunting is a privelege not a right! If you can’t control your dogs keep them in the box.