Comments on: McDavid Man Among Two Inmates Killed In Jail Blast http://www.northescambia.com/2014/05/mcdavid-man-among-two-inmates-killed-in-jail-blast Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Fri, 03 Apr 2026 18:45:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sarah http://www.northescambia.com/2014/05/mcdavid-man-among-two-inmates-killed-in-jail-blast/comment-page-1#comment-267330 Sarah Fri, 16 May 2014 23:11:05 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=177137#comment-267330 Thank you everyone for your thoughts and prayer they are much needed at this time... Thanks again From Robert Simmons Daughter Thank you everyone for your thoughts and prayer they are much needed at this time… Thanks again From Robert Simmons Daughter

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2014/05/mcdavid-man-among-two-inmates-killed-in-jail-blast/comment-page-1#comment-265908 David Huie Green Tue, 06 May 2014 02:43:22 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=177137#comment-265908 Paul, I can only assume you don't understand methane is the main component of natural gas. David for effective education Paul,
I can only assume you don’t understand methane is the main component of natural gas.

David for effective education

]]> By: Paul Alexander http://www.northescambia.com/2014/05/mcdavid-man-among-two-inmates-killed-in-jail-blast/comment-page-1#comment-265800 Paul Alexander Mon, 05 May 2014 03:33:28 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=177137#comment-265800 david,mathane gas is not the culpit here...it is NOT being pumped into the jail. mathane canbe found in septic tanks,sewer system,landfills... and also behind cows. natural gas is found deep below the surface and the smell in natural a nd propane is a perfume... david,mathane gas is not the culpit here…it is NOT being pumped into the jail.
mathane canbe found in septic tanks,sewer system,landfills… and also behind cows.
natural gas is found deep below the surface and the smell in natural a nd propane is a perfume…

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.northescambia.com/2014/05/mcdavid-man-among-two-inmates-killed-in-jail-blast/comment-page-1#comment-265766 Jennifer Sun, 04 May 2014 13:44:08 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=177137#comment-265766 David Weinstein's "hold" for Hillsborough County was for child support...... http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/PublicInquiry/Warrants/Inquiry/ViewActiveWarrant?id=22105094++++++&k1=8d1359453e2df16&k2=LTQ5ODM1NzUwOA%3d%3d David Weinstein’s “hold” for Hillsborough County was for child support……

http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/PublicInquiry/Warrants/Inquiry/ViewActiveWarrant?id=22105094++++++&k1=8d1359453e2df16&k2=LTQ5ODM1NzUwOA%3d%3d

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.northescambia.com/2014/05/mcdavid-man-among-two-inmates-killed-in-jail-blast/comment-page-1#comment-265764 Jennifer Sun, 04 May 2014 13:37:41 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=177137#comment-265764 Robert Simmons was a dear friend to my family. His daughter lost her mother six months ago and now her father. He would have more than likely been released the morning after the explosion, but we know things did not go that way. These two men were housed in the same dorm area. I do not know the other man, but my most sincere heartfelt sympathies go to his family and friends. FYI, the jail uses natural gas. Not propane. The laundry equipment was "new" and was having "leaks" since installation, hence doors being propped open with fans, inmates and staff complaining how eyes were burning, etc. Some say going back to 4/2 there were complaints, and some even saying further back. The basement area flooded yet again.... Something has GOT to change! I hope SOME sort of accountability comes from the investigation. This is tragic and completely senseless. Robert Simmons was a dear friend to my family. His daughter lost her mother six months ago and now her father. He would have more than likely been released the morning after the explosion, but we know things did not go that way. These two men were housed in the same dorm area. I do not know the other man, but my most sincere heartfelt sympathies go to his family and friends.
FYI, the jail uses natural gas. Not propane. The laundry equipment was “new” and was having “leaks” since installation, hence doors being propped open with fans, inmates and staff complaining how eyes were burning, etc. Some say going back to 4/2 there were complaints, and some even saying further back. The basement area flooded yet again…. Something has GOT to change!
I hope SOME sort of accountability comes from the investigation. This is tragic and completely senseless.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2014/05/mcdavid-man-among-two-inmates-killed-in-jail-blast/comment-page-1#comment-265736 David Huie Green Sun, 04 May 2014 03:03:43 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=177137#comment-265736 Henry, You see a tank and assume it is propane You assume that propane goes to the jail You assume it is the only gas which explodes Restated, you assume methane -- which IS piped into the building -- can not explode and could not be the cause despite printed literature and experience to the contrary. People appear to have died because they assumed they wouldn't. old, Discussing how people may have died is not ignoring the fact they died, but how to avoid killing others. Yes, our neighbor was killed. Other neighbors who work there could have been killed. I have kin who just happened to be between incarcerations somehow. They might have been killed too. People simply driving by might have been killed. Please show them some respect. David for proper plumbing and non-lethal work-places Henry,
You see a tank and assume it is propane
You assume that propane goes to the jail
You assume it is the only gas which explodes
Restated, you assume methane — which IS piped into the building — can not explode and could not be the cause despite printed literature and experience to the contrary.

People appear to have died because they assumed they wouldn’t.

old,
Discussing how people may have died is not ignoring the fact they died, but how to avoid killing others. Yes, our neighbor was killed. Other neighbors who work there could have been killed. I have kin who just happened to be between incarcerations somehow. They might have been killed too. People simply driving by might have been killed. Please show them some respect.

David for proper plumbing
and non-lethal work-places

]]> By: old man http://www.northescambia.com/2014/05/mcdavid-man-among-two-inmates-killed-in-jail-blast/comment-page-1#comment-265718 old man Sat, 03 May 2014 21:33:12 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=177137#comment-265718 the article is about the two inmates that were killed not about the type of gas just because these two people were inmates does not make them less human they were someones son maybe a father or brother SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR THE LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE the article is about the two inmates that were killed not about the type of gas just because these two people were inmates does not make them less human they were someones son maybe a father or brother SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR THE LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE

]]> By: Henry Coe http://www.northescambia.com/2014/05/mcdavid-man-among-two-inmates-killed-in-jail-blast/comment-page-1#comment-265713 Henry Coe Sat, 03 May 2014 19:09:12 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=177137#comment-265713 Good feedback, but nothing really definitive. @Jason, there are 4 Propane tanks sitting just to the north of the part of the jail that exploded, seated on the east side of a smaller building in a small fenced in area. Btw, I was not referring to the idea of an actual "tank" exploding. I was simply suggesting that the gas fuel type might be propane because of the Propane Tanks location in proximity to the building and because the volatile characteristics of Propane vs those of Natural Gas. Pryor to the blast, I kind of doubt anyone would know definitively what kind of gas it was being used except for the person who pays the bills and the people that do the maintenance and I suspect the comments in the media about the type of gas being Natural Gas is a speculative assumption. As far as a tank farm being insufficient to service the jails needs, I'd suggest it depends on the size of the tanks in the tank farm, which I can't judge the size of the tanks from looking at Google Maps. Good feedback, but nothing really definitive.
@Jason, there are 4 Propane tanks sitting just to the north of the part of the jail that exploded, seated on the east side of a smaller building in a small fenced in area. Btw, I was not referring to the idea of an actual “tank” exploding. I was simply suggesting that the gas fuel type might be propane because of the Propane Tanks location in proximity to the building and because the volatile characteristics of Propane vs those of Natural Gas.
Pryor to the blast, I kind of doubt anyone would know definitively what kind of gas it was being used except for the person who pays the bills and the people that do the maintenance and I suspect the comments in the media about the type of gas being Natural Gas is a speculative assumption.
As far as a tank farm being insufficient to service the jails needs, I’d suggest it depends on the size of the tanks in the tank farm, which I can’t judge the size of the tanks from looking at Google Maps.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2014/05/mcdavid-man-among-two-inmates-killed-in-jail-blast/comment-page-1#comment-265643 David Huie Green Sat, 03 May 2014 01:38:44 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=177137#comment-265643 Henry, The explosive limits for natural gas by volume are about 4.5% to 17% natural gas in air. Above or below that concentration it won't even burn but within that range it will explose if given a flame or spark. McCurdy's Dairy Bar in Century exploded by natural gas. Coal mine explosions are usually due to natural gas buildup rather than coal dust. Even though methane IS lighter than air, it still mixes with air and without ventilation it will build up in an enclosed space. That's why a leak under US 29 isn't all that big a hazard but gas in a building can be. By the way, if the methane released in a septic tank gets back into a house, THAT can blow up a house. David for natural gas -- in the right place Henry,
The explosive limits for natural gas by volume are about 4.5% to 17% natural gas in air.
Above or below that concentration it won’t even burn but within that range it will explose if given a flame or spark.
McCurdy’s Dairy Bar in Century exploded by natural gas.
Coal mine explosions are usually due to natural gas buildup rather than coal dust.
Even though methane IS lighter than air, it still mixes with air and without ventilation it will build up in an enclosed space.
That’s why a leak under US 29 isn’t all that big a hazard but gas in a building can be.

By the way, if the methane released in a septic tank gets back into a house, THAT can blow up a house.

David for natural gas — in the right place

]]> By: Jason http://www.northescambia.com/2014/05/mcdavid-man-among-two-inmates-killed-in-jail-blast/comment-page-1#comment-265595 Jason Fri, 02 May 2014 16:56:41 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=177137#comment-265595 Henry Coe....your opinion is wrong. The tanks you identified are at the main jail and serve a secondary purpose. If you noticed these tank are all out in the open and away from the main structure. The facility where the blast occurred did not have any propane tanks. Henry Coe….your opinion is wrong. The tanks you identified are at the main jail and serve a secondary purpose. If you noticed these tank are all out in the open and away from the main structure. The facility where the blast occurred did not have any propane tanks.

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