Comments on: Man Allegedly Beats Brother With Bat, Threatens To Kill Him http://www.northescambia.com/2013/08/man-allegedly-beats-brother-with-bat-threatens-to-kill-him Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Sat, 18 Apr 2026 20:22:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: What a mess! http://www.northescambia.com/2013/08/man-allegedly-beats-brother-with-bat-threatens-to-kill-him/comment-page-1#comment-220319 What a mess! Mon, 12 Aug 2013 02:48:03 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=148199#comment-220319 I know this family and I am so sad for all of them. I know there must be so many mixed emotions for all of the siblings and their mother. I pray God's best for all of you. Many of God's miracles started with a problem. I know Steve to be the kind of person who would give you the shirt off of his back if you needed it. I know Johnny to be the same kind of person. But we (and they) all have problems. May the Lord give this family grace and mercey and peace and hope in this difficult time. And he who is blameless of any sin can cast the first stone. I know this family and I am so sad for all of them. I know there must be so many mixed emotions for all of the siblings and their mother. I pray God’s best for all of you. Many of God’s miracles started with a problem. I know Steve to be the kind of person who would give you the shirt off of his back if you needed it. I know Johnny to be the same kind of person. But we (and they) all have problems. May the Lord give this family grace and mercey and peace and hope in this difficult time. And he who is blameless of any sin can cast the first stone.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2013/08/man-allegedly-beats-brother-with-bat-threatens-to-kill-him/comment-page-1#comment-220076 David Huie Green Sat, 10 Aug 2013 00:48:42 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=148199#comment-220076 REGARDING: “He needs to be charged with a hate crime as well.” Probably not. Hurting people just because you don’t like members of that group is considered a hate crime. In this case, the brother admits his brother does not like him and has not liked him for a long time. (It happens.) His sexual orientation MAY be part of why he doesn’t like him, but we don’t KNOW it is the ONLY reason. If it were the only reason, then yes, it would likely be treated as a hate crime if he were convicted. He may have had reasons to attack completely separate from dislike of a group of people of which his brother claims to be a member. That brings us to the other thing. Quite often sentencing is harsher for hate crimes but conviction for the crime itself is needed first. A hate crime didn’t occur if a crime didn’t occur. AND “How is a “hate crime” worse than the “ordinary” crime of beating someone with a baseball bat? It is a matter of motive. If someone attacks you because you are obnoxious, it is at least somewhat understandable and you may have even provoked the attack. If they attack you because you are a Smurf and they hate all Smurfs, the attack is for something you haven’t done and which you can’t change. Further, it means all Smurfs everywhere are in danger from that person. Therefore he is more dangerous to people everywhere. David for safe Smurfs REGARDING:
“He needs to be charged with a hate crime as well.”

Probably not.

Hurting people just because you don’t like members of that group is considered a hate crime. In this case, the brother admits his brother does not like him and has not liked him for a long time. (It happens.) His sexual orientation MAY be part of why he doesn’t like him, but we don’t KNOW it is the ONLY reason. If it were the only reason, then yes, it would likely be treated as a hate crime if he were convicted.

He may have had reasons to attack completely separate from dislike of a group of people of which his brother claims to be a member.

That brings us to the other thing. Quite often sentencing is harsher for hate crimes but conviction for the crime itself is needed first. A hate crime didn’t occur if a crime didn’t occur.

AND
“How is a “hate crime” worse than the “ordinary” crime of beating someone with a baseball bat?

It is a matter of motive.

If someone attacks you because you are obnoxious, it is at least somewhat understandable and you may have even provoked the attack. If they attack you because you are a Smurf and they hate all Smurfs, the attack is for something you haven’t done and which you can’t change. Further, it means all Smurfs everywhere are in danger from that person. Therefore he is more dangerous to people everywhere.

David for safe Smurfs

]]> By: jeeperman http://www.northescambia.com/2013/08/man-allegedly-beats-brother-with-bat-threatens-to-kill-him/comment-page-1#comment-220048 jeeperman Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:38:13 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=148199#comment-220048 He might be charged with a slew of more serious charges by the SA. The police just charge him with what they think will keep him in jail. Then the SA reviews the charges to see if they are appropriate and they may be changed up or down. He might be charged with a slew of more serious charges by the SA.
The police just charge him with what they think will keep him in jail.
Then the SA reviews the charges to see if they are appropriate and they may be changed up or down.

]]> By: Concerned http://www.northescambia.com/2013/08/man-allegedly-beats-brother-with-bat-threatens-to-kill-him/comment-page-1#comment-219904 Concerned Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:11:19 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=148199#comment-219904 Please pray for all involved... Please pray for all involved…

]]> By: hmmm http://www.northescambia.com/2013/08/man-allegedly-beats-brother-with-bat-threatens-to-kill-him/comment-page-1#comment-219899 hmmm Fri, 09 Aug 2013 02:38:20 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=148199#comment-219899 @please explain... If the reasoning behind Andrews attacking his brother was due to the fact the he was homosexual, then it is a hate crime. I'm more irritated that he wasn't charged attempted murder and put in jail on no bond! @please explain…

If the reasoning behind Andrews attacking his brother was due to the fact the he was homosexual, then it is a hate crime. I’m more irritated that he wasn’t charged attempted murder and put in jail on no bond!

]]> By: EllenB http://www.northescambia.com/2013/08/man-allegedly-beats-brother-with-bat-threatens-to-kill-him/comment-page-1#comment-219857 EllenB Thu, 08 Aug 2013 20:27:04 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=148199#comment-219857 There are obviously other factors involved, likely alcohol. But this most definetly is NOT in Steve's character, or at least not the Steve I know. With that said, it is certainly wrong to do what he did no matter who the victim is. He's known the victims sexual orientation for many years now, so why this explosion now? I'm just going to pray for everyone involved! There are obviously other factors involved, likely alcohol. But this most definetly is NOT in Steve’s character, or at least not the Steve I know. With that said, it is certainly wrong to do what he did no matter who the victim is. He’s known the victims sexual orientation for many years now, so why this explosion now?
I’m just going to pray for everyone involved!

]]> By: Please explain... http://www.northescambia.com/2013/08/man-allegedly-beats-brother-with-bat-threatens-to-kill-him/comment-page-1#comment-219823 Please explain... Thu, 08 Aug 2013 16:54:18 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=148199#comment-219823 How is a "hate crime" worse than the "ordinary" crime of beating someone with a baseball bat? The "hate crime" tag is such nonsense in my my opinion...dead is dead no matter what you call it. How is a “hate crime” worse than the “ordinary” crime of beating someone with a baseball bat?

The “hate crime” tag is such nonsense in my my opinion…dead is dead no matter what you call it.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2013/08/man-allegedly-beats-brother-with-bat-threatens-to-kill-him/comment-page-1#comment-219816 David Huie Green Thu, 08 Aug 2013 16:24:57 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=148199#comment-219816 REGARDING: "Lord, it scares me to death knowing I have my own grandchildren growing up in this crazy cruel world. What are we going to do?" Console yourself with the understanding this is the best generation on record. Less killing, less crime, more honest law enforcement than what history tells us previous generations faced. Okay, maybe not THAT much of a consolation but add the fact that our ancestors at least survived long enough to produce us and there is still hope. Do the best you can and trust in the Lord. David for comfort REGARDING:
“Lord, it scares me to death knowing I have my own grandchildren growing up in this crazy cruel world.
What are we going to do?”

Console yourself with the understanding this is the best generation on record. Less killing, less crime, more honest law enforcement than what history tells us previous generations faced. Okay, maybe not THAT much of a consolation but add the fact that our ancestors at least survived long enough to produce us and there is still hope.

Do the best you can and trust in the Lord.

David for comfort

]]> By: Henry Coe http://www.northescambia.com/2013/08/man-allegedly-beats-brother-with-bat-threatens-to-kill-him/comment-page-1#comment-219806 Henry Coe Thu, 08 Aug 2013 15:48:56 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=148199#comment-219806 He needs to be charge with a hate crime as well. He needs to be charge with a hate crime as well.

]]> By: linda http://www.northescambia.com/2013/08/man-allegedly-beats-brother-with-bat-threatens-to-kill-him/comment-page-1#comment-219804 linda Thu, 08 Aug 2013 15:42:37 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=148199#comment-219804 Of course he could be charged with a hate crime. He is male, white and straight. Of course he could be charged with a hate crime. He is male, white and straight.

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