Comments on: Santa Rosa Teacher Arrested For Soliciting Former Student

By: JM

JM — Sun, 23 Jun 2013 21:46:08 +0000

Okay the Quincy obmission was my bad. I cut and pasted off the Internet. I heard the quote on Christian radio so I looked it up. I did not pay close attention to detail. Please forgive me for not giving credit to the proper forefather. I would not say that the statement is a lie. How can 100 percent of the population be moral and religious? The Constitution was written for a moral society as a whole. One that a majority trust in bible priciples. It protects us from criminals and people who would like to see the freedoms we enjoy abolished.
As you know the right to bear arms is under attack. Freedom of speech is even under attack. At the same time America is in moral decline. We take Jesus out of our schools, government institutions etc…. And we still expect the same results our forefathers envisioned for this nation. If several generations go on without holding the gospel in regard then we can expect the problems we have. Yes this guy should be punished for his actions. There is no doubt about that. But you can be sure that a country that does nothing about its moral decline will be punished as well. Our prisons are full compared to a lot of other countries. My first entry was in response to someone who was saying sentence him to death. Send this perv on a fast track to hell. At least he believes there is a hell. . I don’t think we have a Biblical right to say something like that. As long as this guy lives he has a chance to truely repent. Yes we are to judge actions. We are also called to love even our enemies. Impossible without Jesus. Without the Holy Spirit active in our lives none of what I wrote makes sense. I’m signing off since we seem to be the only two left. It’s been fun. God Bless.

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 23:06:04 +0000

REGARDING:
“I do believe that God loves this man because he said so in his word.”

Saying He loves His creation, Mankind is fine, just so you don’t say he loves predators. That reads as if He loves them for their predation, not despite it. We are outside his loving forgiveness and outside His hearing without repentance.

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. -John Adams (6th President of the U.S.).”

Actually, John Adams was our second president.
John Quincy Adams was #6.

Further, this statement is a lie (presidents sometimes lie, whoever said it) as shown by the Constitution itself.

It calls for judges, juries, power of pardon, burdens of proof. It lays out limitations on punishments for crimes.
Crimes are not committed by moral people.

It lays out checks and balances over the power of government.
Checks and balances are not needed against moral people.

In fact, they admitted during the Constitutional Convention that if we were all good people, we would not need any government in the first place.

“Do we have a biblical right to judge and condemn or should we leave that up to Christ”

Sure we do.

The bible sets us up as subject to the earthly powers (in our case, the Constitution) as God’s instruments of justice.
The Constitution places judgment in the hands of us as citizens.
Therefore, we are scripturally obligated to judge and condemn when appropriate.

We don’t have the authority to determine eternal destination (some sects think they have that power, but are wrong) nor are we trying to do so.

David for truth

By: JM

JM — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:39:03 +0000

David you posed an excellent question and I pray that you will have a clearer understanding of the point I am trying to get across. I do believe that God loves this man because he said so in his word. God is love and it is hard sometimes in our human understanding to wrap our minds around that. I also beleve that that love does not mean He is okay with the actions of this predator. He should face the consequences of his behavior. I would not stop loving my children if they did something really bad. The relationship may be terribly damaged and I may not be able to be around them but I can’t stop loving them. They would need to face the consequences for their actions. We learn when there are consequences. Here is God’s word to back that up

For Christ, while we were still helpless, yet died at the appointed time for the ungodly. Indeed, only with difficulty does one die for a just person, though perhaps for a good person one might even find courage to die. But God proves his love for us in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us. How much more then, since we are now justified by his blood, will we be saved through him from the wrath. Indeed, if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, how much more, once reconciled, will we be saved by his life. Not only that, but we also boast of God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. (Romans 5:6-11 NABRE). True repentance is not just saying you are sorry. It is being sincere when asking for forgiveness and then asking Jesus to change you and be your Lord and Savior. If God loved us more when we behaved appropriately then He would not have had to die on the cross. We could earn our salvation and boast and brag about how great we are as opposed to someone else we are comparing ourselves to. The Bible says that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

We do have a Constitutional right to freedom of speech. I pray that will never be taken away because I might be arrested for sharing Gods Word. Here is what one of our forefathers said concerning our Constitution: CONSTITUTION
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. -John Adams (6th President of the U.S.). Do we have a biblical right to judge and condemn or should we leave that up to Christ
For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him might not perish but might have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him. (John 3:16, 17 NABRE)

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:24:50 +0000

REGARDING:
“The God I serve also loves the predator and desires for him to seek forgiveness and to go and sin no more.

Do you really believe He loves them in their role of predator? That He wants them to repent, yes, but not in an unrepentant state of harming His children. Of course, you may serve a different god who likes such things. Many used to serve gods who required their children thrown into the fire. Different folks, different deities.

Of course, your follow-up quote sounds like the same one I know so it’s confusing just as it’s confusing that so many believe Second Chronicles “my people” includes them without any evidence to support that they are His people or are called by His name. Christ tells us that most are NOT His people because they have rejected His guidance and salvation. This strikes me as quite possibly a case in point.

AND
“We can write harsh words about him but what gives us that right?”

It’s called the First Amendment to the Constitution.
We have the right to speak our mind.
That includes the right to condemn predation on minors.

David for law abiding citizens

By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:54:36 +0000

Anne: That’s great parenting, we need more like you. Kudos!

By: JM

JM — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:25:29 +0000

Matt being born a Baptist or a Republican does not make you a Christian. Have you been saved by grace is the question you should ask yourself.

By: JM

JM — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:16:41 +0000

Well said, Lifendson. For a while I felt as though I was in a foreign country with no interpretaor in sight. I even get your screen name “Life in the Son”. I look forward to hanging out with you in eternity where no one will have to deal with imorality because it simply will not exist. I know that statement may sound arrogant to some of you but the Bible says that these things are written so that you may KNOW that you have eternal life. I don’t deserve it, I did not earn it, it’s a free gift to all who accept Jesus.
To those who did not get me I was not trying minimize his crime in any way. One in three girls and one in five boys are molested by someone they know and trust. Many will not come out and tell someone who can help them. I’m thankful this girl was wise enough to realize the texts were becoming inappropriate. She received some moral training from someone. If that many children are being harmed then I submit that it’s false to believe that filth we allow or categorize as harmless fantasy or entertainment has little or no effect on 99 percent of the population. I guess issues such as human trafficking, teen pregnancy, abortion, etc. just come out of thin air. Predators are made not born. With all the children being harmed we might found out some one we know and love might have harmed a child. As for you Matt go back and read the rules. I know you meant to insult me but I am not easily provoked. You see I don’t seek a great sex life in and of itself. I have a wonderful relationship with one person, my spouse. A dynamic physical relationship is a byproduct of that love and commitment. I appreciate the fact that you tried to council me with your expertise. But in fact if you need the filth of this world to have great sexual satisfaction then I would submit that you lack creativity in that area and I take pity on your partner or partners.

By: Matt

Matt — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:41:59 +0000

Lifendason: That was a low blow… I was born a Republican and happen to be Baptist, NOT THAT IT SHOULD MATTER, RIGHT?

OldLady: You couldn’t have said it better!

By: Anne

Anne — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:11:30 +0000

I have to go with Old Lady on this one. TV has been around for awhile now. It is poison to our kids and especially our teens. But parents should still have the last word at home.
Teens like picking out and buying their own clothes. I have made my daughter very angry at times when I stopped her at the bottom of the stairs and told her to go back up the stairs and “try again”. Teens do not understand there are people out there who assume they are sexually active because of the way they dress. They trust anyone who pays attention to them. They do not understand they are likely to be used and abused by people who feel nothing for them.
I was taught by many male teachers and every one of them was trustworthy. They were great teachers. I’m glad we never had a rotten apple like this guy.

By: Lifendason

Lifendason — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:13:27 +0000

JM, I AGREE with what you’re saying and understand it. Others who don’t probably are not saved or they go to a liberal church where it’s all about you feeling good about yourself and your sin is just something that happens in your life. blah blah blah, that is what the devil wants us to thing and obviously it’s working on some.

Folks, what JM is trying to say I believe,is that we cry/complain about our Gov., taxes, bad stuff on tv, sex offenders, etc and what are we doing about it? Do you as JM verse says seek God’s face in prayer or do you have the atitude of “well, it don’t affect me” boloney? I mean if you have a daughter who dresses like a hooker, do you think she’s not going to draw BAD attention to herself? It’s not about self esteem, it’s about growing up in a godly manner with some morale values that will last through your kids kids.

BTW, 99% CANNOT hear filth and NOT have something negative happen in their life or others. Stop listening to Oprah, Dr.Phil, and Osteen and start listening to some real advice the BIBLE.