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	<title>Comments on: DOJ Report: Escambia Jail Unsafe, Understaffed</title>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 21:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REGARDING:
“The decades-long practice of housing some prisoners in black-only pods was discriminatory, fanned racial tensions and contributed to prisoner perceptions that the jail favors white prisoners over black prisoners. The practice ended in 2012.”

To avoid the perception of prejudice in the future, play musical beds. Every one to seven days reshuffle the sleeping arrangements.  (Not every day, not every seventh day, just let a random number generator pick the days of shuffling.)

Let another random number generator pick the cell and cot for each inmate. It might be a bit rough on newbies who had to bunk with repeat sexual offenders, but that’s the price of equality.

Alternatively, consider not putting everyone tightly together in an expensive single building. Picture ten by ten cottages housing just one inmate each every hundred feet or so inside a fenced area with cameras, microphones, forbidden perimeter and mock oranges between the fence and the cottages.

Assume 1600 cottages, 40 to a side, 4000 feet by 4000 feet, less than a section of land, assume 640 acres, $10,000 per acre, $6.4 million dollars plus building costs. Doable. Put it in Bluff Springs near the nuclear power plant.

Less crowding, less problemsl.

David for fewer inmates</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REGARDING:<br />
“The decades-long practice of housing some prisoners in black-only pods was discriminatory, fanned racial tensions and contributed to prisoner perceptions that the jail favors white prisoners over black prisoners. The practice ended in 2012.”</p>
<p>To avoid the perception of prejudice in the future, play musical beds. Every one to seven days reshuffle the sleeping arrangements.  (Not every day, not every seventh day, just let a random number generator pick the days of shuffling.)</p>
<p>Let another random number generator pick the cell and cot for each inmate. It might be a bit rough on newbies who had to bunk with repeat sexual offenders, but that’s the price of equality.</p>
<p>Alternatively, consider not putting everyone tightly together in an expensive single building. Picture ten by ten cottages housing just one inmate each every hundred feet or so inside a fenced area with cameras, microphones, forbidden perimeter and mock oranges between the fence and the cottages.</p>
<p>Assume 1600 cottages, 40 to a side, 4000 feet by 4000 feet, less than a section of land, assume 640 acres, $10,000 per acre, $6.4 million dollars plus building costs. Doable. Put it in Bluff Springs near the nuclear power plant.</p>
<p>Less crowding, less problemsl.</p>
<p>David for fewer inmates</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 20:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Department of Justice?  Is this a joke?  The DOJ run by Eric Holder is the biggest laughing stock in the law world at this very moment.  The Department of Justice is the most awash department in the current administration.  Any and every attorney what I work for and against all agree that the DOJ is at its worse it has ever been since its beginnings and is downright laughable.

I was suprised to find typos throughout the DOJ report.  It almost seems like they &quot;threw it together.&quot;  

With that said, another point to make is that in retrospect, Escambia County Jail is the most comfy jail I have ever walked in to.  Inmates get junk food, free medical, TV, Clean bedsheets and clean jumpsuits weekly, art classes, bible study classes, GED classes, basketball, exercise for TWO hours a day, everyday, hot showers, hot coffee, nintendo wii, playing cards, checkers, couches, the list goes on all on your taxpayer dime.  Jail has been so easy than it has ever been before and this report comes out? 

Why is crime so high in Escambia County?  Because the jail is soft as beans due to liability concerns.  Don&#039;t worry, you&#039;ll commit any crime you want and receive the above noted entitlements.  
 
I&#039;m suprised they won&#039;t be getting pizza parties and late movies nights on the weekends.... oh wait, THEY ALREADY DO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Department of Justice?  Is this a joke?  The DOJ run by Eric Holder is the biggest laughing stock in the law world at this very moment.  The Department of Justice is the most awash department in the current administration.  Any and every attorney what I work for and against all agree that the DOJ is at its worse it has ever been since its beginnings and is downright laughable.</p>
<p>I was suprised to find typos throughout the DOJ report.  It almost seems like they &#8220;threw it together.&#8221;  </p>
<p>With that said, another point to make is that in retrospect, Escambia County Jail is the most comfy jail I have ever walked in to.  Inmates get junk food, free medical, TV, Clean bedsheets and clean jumpsuits weekly, art classes, bible study classes, GED classes, basketball, exercise for TWO hours a day, everyday, hot showers, hot coffee, nintendo wii, playing cards, checkers, couches, the list goes on all on your taxpayer dime.  Jail has been so easy than it has ever been before and this report comes out? </p>
<p>Why is crime so high in Escambia County?  Because the jail is soft as beans due to liability concerns.  Don&#8217;t worry, you&#8217;ll commit any crime you want and receive the above noted entitlements.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m suprised they won&#8217;t be getting pizza parties and late movies nights on the weekends&#8230;. oh wait, THEY ALREADY DO.</p>
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		<title>By: larry lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 13:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BEING RETIRED FROM THE JAIL I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A POSITIVE LIST OF THE BRAVE PEOPLE THAT SHOW NO FEAR CONTROLING MURDERING-MOLESTING-MEAN PEOPLE.

WOMEN 5 FEET TALL GOING INTO MALE PODS ALONE, GETTING IN THE FACE OF 6 FOOT 200 POUND MAN, TELLING HIM HOW IT IS GOING TO BE.

HAVING TO PULL INMATES OUT OF PODS AFTER THEY HAVE SMEARED YOU KNOW WHAT ALL OVER WALLS, A VERY LOVELY SMELL.

DEALING WITH MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE WHO SHOULD NOT BE THERE.

MONITORS WHO GET LOWER PAY, NO RAISES FOR YEARS, NO APPRECIATION BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OFFICERS, BUT DEAL WITH SAME  PROBLEMS,LESS BENEFITS ETC.

ALL IN ALL A GREAT BUNCH OF HARD WORKING PEOPLE, WORKING WITH PEOPLE MOST FOLKS RUN FROM.

WE APPRECIATE OUR DEPUTIES ON THE STREET, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THESE PEOPLE AFTER THEY BRING THEM IN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BEING RETIRED FROM THE JAIL I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A POSITIVE LIST OF THE BRAVE PEOPLE THAT SHOW NO FEAR CONTROLING MURDERING-MOLESTING-MEAN PEOPLE.</p>
<p>WOMEN 5 FEET TALL GOING INTO MALE PODS ALONE, GETTING IN THE FACE OF 6 FOOT 200 POUND MAN, TELLING HIM HOW IT IS GOING TO BE.</p>
<p>HAVING TO PULL INMATES OUT OF PODS AFTER THEY HAVE SMEARED YOU KNOW WHAT ALL OVER WALLS, A VERY LOVELY SMELL.</p>
<p>DEALING WITH MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE WHO SHOULD NOT BE THERE.</p>
<p>MONITORS WHO GET LOWER PAY, NO RAISES FOR YEARS, NO APPRECIATION BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OFFICERS, BUT DEAL WITH SAME  PROBLEMS,LESS BENEFITS ETC.</p>
<p>ALL IN ALL A GREAT BUNCH OF HARD WORKING PEOPLE, WORKING WITH PEOPLE MOST FOLKS RUN FROM.</p>
<p>WE APPRECIATE OUR DEPUTIES ON THE STREET, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THESE PEOPLE AFTER THEY BRING THEM IN.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 23:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@works there - yes, the number of those who voted seems pretty bleak.... however, getting the time off to go vote is like asking for leave;  denied, denied denied!   I want to know why a few select were paid a lot more for their excess leave than others!?!?!
Work is work - agreed!  However, if I go to a job and have crap thrown at me, spitted on, called a &quot;cracker&quot;, etc. etc. etc., the pay should equal the crap I have to put up with.  If I request time off, then I should be granted it!  I have earned it!!!!
Reading your comments makes me think that you are one of Morgan&#039;s golden children - again, the &quot;good ole boy network&quot; is still alive and well,  Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Time for a reality check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@works there &#8211; yes, the number of those who voted seems pretty bleak&#8230;. however, getting the time off to go vote is like asking for leave;  denied, denied denied!   I want to know why a few select were paid a lot more for their excess leave than others!?!?!<br />
Work is work &#8211; agreed!  However, if I go to a job and have crap thrown at me, spitted on, called a &#8220;cracker&#8221;, etc. etc. etc., the pay should equal the crap I have to put up with.  If I request time off, then I should be granted it!  I have earned it!!!!<br />
Reading your comments makes me think that you are one of Morgan&#8217;s golden children &#8211; again, the &#8220;good ole boy network&#8221; is still alive and well,  Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Time for a reality check.</p>
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		<title>By: armymajorswife</title>
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		<dc:creator>armymajorswife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 15:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel bad for the Officers that have to work in those conditions, but I have no sympathy for violations of a criminals rights.... Criminals shouldn&#039;t have rights. If it were as bad as they make it out to be, there would not be sooooooo many repeat offenders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad for the Officers that have to work in those conditions, but I have no sympathy for violations of a criminals rights&#8230;. Criminals shouldn&#8217;t have rights. If it were as bad as they make it out to be, there would not be sooooooo many repeat offenders.</p>
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		<title>By: Duke of Wawbeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duke of Wawbeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 11:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all sounds pretty bleak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all sounds pretty bleak.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
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		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 01:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea being understaffed is bs but i work for the state so come on out to the state then you can see understaffing at its worst. the high up people don&#039;t care if we die they just sit in the ac all day thinking us grunts are just another number</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea being understaffed is bs but i work for the state so come on out to the state then you can see understaffing at its worst. the high up people don&#8217;t care if we die they just sit in the ac all day thinking us grunts are just another number</p>
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		<title>By: Works There Also</title>
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		<dc:creator>Works There Also</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 23:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one was stuck in a tower for 12 hours and never received a break in order to vote both days I could. Not my fault, especially when I asked for breaks but we were &quot;to short, and someone will get there when we can&quot; Now.....I do agree the mixed raced pods claim is ludacris. People have no idea what goes on in that place but can sit back and write on paper how it should be done. We had a desk to road program at one time. I only seen one desk job employee get back to his roots and come work in the trenches. Not only work there, but pulled more weight then most of the everyday officers. He has now made SGT and I don&#039;t know of anyone that deserves it more! Bottom line we all need a job. But we need support too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one was stuck in a tower for 12 hours and never received a break in order to vote both days I could. Not my fault, especially when I asked for breaks but we were &#8220;to short, and someone will get there when we can&#8221; Now&#8230;..I do agree the mixed raced pods claim is ludacris. People have no idea what goes on in that place but can sit back and write on paper how it should be done. We had a desk to road program at one time. I only seen one desk job employee get back to his roots and come work in the trenches. Not only work there, but pulled more weight then most of the everyday officers. He has now made SGT and I don&#8217;t know of anyone that deserves it more! Bottom line we all need a job. But we need support too.</p>
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		<title>By: works there</title>
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		<dc:creator>works there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 17:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Lucy ~~~ while everyone may not be a dues paying member of the PBA, everyone in each bargaining unit had the right to vote on the contract. The PBA website indicates only 123 of 245 line officers took the opportunity to cast their vote. Of those 123 employees 27 voted to reject the contract. And yes, I was one who voted &quot;no&quot;. 

* Employees shouldn&#039;t complain if they didn&#039;t exercise their right to vote. 
* Employees shouldn&#039;t complain if they voted to accept the contract knowing it was a poor contract to accept. 
* Employees shouldn&#039;t complain if they didn&#039;t attend any PBA meetings and offer their input as to what would be acceptable contract language.

Far too many employees chose to sit back and grumble about things, but far too many wont do anything to bring about changes. I agree the job can be very stressful on many days. There are a lot of shifts when the workload seems to go non-stop. But that is why they call it work.  


@ Sick and tired ~~ the staffing issues didn&#039;t happen overnight. Staffing problems began about 10 years ago under McNesby and Dennis Williams. The last 6 years has been the worst in attracting new hires. Why would anyone want to come to work at a place where their boss (the Sheriff) has openly stated they are uneducated and untrained any may have alleged the CO&#039;s were murderers? Why would anyone want to work in the jail facility that is under a DOJ  investigation? Why would anyone want to stay in the job where they haven&#039;t received a pay raise in 7 years? Add to this mixture, the ever increasing violent tendency of todays youth that believe violence is an answer to all their problems. 

I realize that many of our senior employees have chosen to remain in the job versus starting over in a new career. We all make choices. Each choice has consequences, both good and bad. Despite all the bad in our chosen line of work, I see time after time how many of our employees who have resigned or retired seem to have no problem returning to the cesspool once the new job didn&#039;t work out or found they were too young to be live comfortably on the pittance of a retirement check they receive. 


Of all the atrocities noted by the DOJ, nothing really alarms me. The lack of staffing contributes to the majority of problems. The increase in personnel will certainly solve security issues and leave issues.  The one thing I found laughable was the DOJ complaints that black inmates are being discriminated against or that an all black pod was treated differently that a pod containing with equal or somewhat equal ratio of black and whites. These all balck pods were provided the same TV, coffee pot, visitation, commissary, medical, outside recreation, church activities, mailing privileges, kitchen meals, clothing, etc.  
Now, to solve the all black pod problem, the jail has instituted a system of placing 5 to 7  white inmates in a pod of 17 to 19 black inmates and this is suppose to make everything safer for everyone? I don&#039;t get it their logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lucy ~~~ while everyone may not be a dues paying member of the PBA, everyone in each bargaining unit had the right to vote on the contract. The PBA website indicates only 123 of 245 line officers took the opportunity to cast their vote. Of those 123 employees 27 voted to reject the contract. And yes, I was one who voted &#8220;no&#8221;. </p>
<p>* Employees shouldn&#8217;t complain if they didn&#8217;t exercise their right to vote.<br />
* Employees shouldn&#8217;t complain if they voted to accept the contract knowing it was a poor contract to accept.<br />
* Employees shouldn&#8217;t complain if they didn&#8217;t attend any PBA meetings and offer their input as to what would be acceptable contract language.</p>
<p>Far too many employees chose to sit back and grumble about things, but far too many wont do anything to bring about changes. I agree the job can be very stressful on many days. There are a lot of shifts when the workload seems to go non-stop. But that is why they call it work.  </p>
<p>@ Sick and tired ~~ the staffing issues didn&#8217;t happen overnight. Staffing problems began about 10 years ago under McNesby and Dennis Williams. The last 6 years has been the worst in attracting new hires. Why would anyone want to come to work at a place where their boss (the Sheriff) has openly stated they are uneducated and untrained any may have alleged the CO&#8217;s were murderers? Why would anyone want to work in the jail facility that is under a DOJ  investigation? Why would anyone want to stay in the job where they haven&#8217;t received a pay raise in 7 years? Add to this mixture, the ever increasing violent tendency of todays youth that believe violence is an answer to all their problems. </p>
<p>I realize that many of our senior employees have chosen to remain in the job versus starting over in a new career. We all make choices. Each choice has consequences, both good and bad. Despite all the bad in our chosen line of work, I see time after time how many of our employees who have resigned or retired seem to have no problem returning to the cesspool once the new job didn&#8217;t work out or found they were too young to be live comfortably on the pittance of a retirement check they receive. </p>
<p>Of all the atrocities noted by the DOJ, nothing really alarms me. The lack of staffing contributes to the majority of problems. The increase in personnel will certainly solve security issues and leave issues.  The one thing I found laughable was the DOJ complaints that black inmates are being discriminated against or that an all black pod was treated differently that a pod containing with equal or somewhat equal ratio of black and whites. These all balck pods were provided the same TV, coffee pot, visitation, commissary, medical, outside recreation, church activities, mailing privileges, kitchen meals, clothing, etc.<br />
Now, to solve the all black pod problem, the jail has instituted a system of placing 5 to 7  white inmates in a pod of 17 to 19 black inmates and this is suppose to make everything safer for everyone? I don&#8217;t get it their logic.</p>
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		<title>By: citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 13:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find funny is when Morgan first got elected, he came running in the door say we are going to have to face this DOJ investigation head on. He claimed he had nothing to do with the DOJ coming in but he would deal with it. We all know he was behind the original complaint so he could use the findings to support his campaign. Now, he really does have to deal with it. Not only did the past Sheriff have issues there, Morgan has a lot of his own. There are a lot of things that have been on-going for the last five years he&#039;s done nothing about as well. You can&#039;t live in a glass house and throw stones dummy. Wear your own problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find funny is when Morgan first got elected, he came running in the door say we are going to have to face this DOJ investigation head on. He claimed he had nothing to do with the DOJ coming in but he would deal with it. We all know he was behind the original complaint so he could use the findings to support his campaign. Now, he really does have to deal with it. Not only did the past Sheriff have issues there, Morgan has a lot of his own. There are a lot of things that have been on-going for the last five years he&#8217;s done nothing about as well. You can&#8217;t live in a glass house and throw stones dummy. Wear your own problems.</p>
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