Comments on: Temporary Ban Upheld On Florida Welfare Drug Tests

By: JSCS

JSCS — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:11:37 +0000

Let’s see, it’s required to get a drug test in order to get a job, BUT in order to get welfare people shouldn’t have to be drug tested.

What is wrong with this picture! If a person has nothing to hide they shouldn’t have a problem with a simple drug test.

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:58:47 +0000

Mark,
It is illegal to make guns illegal.
It will continue to be illegal until that part of The Bill of Rights is legally changed. (The procudures for legally amending the Constitution are spelled out.)

In the absence of respect for the law by members of Congress, some lower courts and sometimes even by past Presidents, it isn’t really paranoid to fear even worse offenses in the distant future.

David for law-abiding governments and people

By: bill

bill — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:20:22 +0000

Rufus is right on the mark with his post. We need to honor the protections that the constitution has afforded us. If we allow our glorius leaders to ignore one part of it then how long will it be before they ignore the 2nd amendment? I threw the gun issue out because it is one that so many so called conservatives go crazy about. I don’t even own a gun but I will always back the 2nd amendment rights of our citizens. The only people who should have to be drug tested are people who’s jobs involve public safety or those who show actions that represent probable cause to search their bodies for cause.

By: melodies4us

melodies4us — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:11:41 +0000

I hate this idea. Drugs are wrong, but this is going too far.

By: molino

molino — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:44:29 +0000

I have no trouble paying taxes to help those who truly need it. However, just this month I have seen 1) someone at tom thumb buying a $20 and $10 lottery tickets, then use a food stamp card to pay for their “food”. 2) a couple purchasing a 50″ flat screen tv (that my husband and I can’t afford yet because we are saving up for it still) and then use the pretty Florida food stamp card for “food”. 3) a woman buying 2 – 24 bottle cases of beer and yes use her Florida food stamp card for “food”. So, it seems these people are making bad or unaffordable personal decisions that have no consequences. Maybe if there were some consequences for bad choices like doing drugs, they would try to better themselves. I’m all for helping out, but every time I see these things it makes me angrier and feeling less charitable. We should at least draw the line at drug use.

By: Rufus Lowgun

Rufus Lowgun — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:04:52 +0000

People should not have to submit to a drug test unless there is some reason to suspect they are taking drugs. Trying to get a job, or signing up for welfare or unemployment does not constitute probable cause. This is all spelled out pretty clearly in the Constitution. If more people read it, rather than simply waving it around as a prop while they scream about the government coming to take their guns or about having to take responsibility for their health care costs, this would be abundantly clear. I’m actually more disturbed that so many people think that having to submit to such a thing is perfectly ok than I am that Rick Scott proposed it in the first place. His motivation was lining his own pockets, which is understandable if reprehensible.

By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:34:15 +0000

Wow, @Bill. Way to turn an article about drug testing into paranoia about the government coming for your guns!

First of all, the government is not going to come after your guns. No democrat or republican in their right mind is going to try that. They may TALK about it, but they will never try it because of the 2nd amendment.

The only thing the government will come after are “illegal” weapons such as automatic weapons and any banned assault rifles. Your handguns and rifles are safe.

Now here’s the real argument.. How can drug testing be “illegal search and seizure” for a welfare recipient, but not for the average Joe worker who has to submit to one for hiring purposes?

Let’s just give those on government assistance even more reasons to sit around doing nothing but getting high/drunk.

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:26:25 +0000

How much sense does it make that people have to drug test for most decent pay checks, but the courts won’t allow us require testing for a welfare check?

By: bill

bill — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:54:31 +0000

It violates the constitution to search for illegal activity without probable cause or a search warrant. Will you be so agreeable with this type of government action when they come to your house to take your guns without a warrant?

By: dan-o

dan-o — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:44:13 +0000

Regardless of the ruling on drug testing state employees, it continues to be done at random and has been done that way for about 8-10 years, and I don’t have a problem with that. The problem is with being paid by the state to provide a public service to the citizens of Florida with random drug screening ensuring public safety, yet somehow, it is a violation of the fourth amendment to drug test welfare recipients who are receiving my (and your) tax dollars that provide no public service at all.

Almost every job these days require some sort of drug testing, so, if these recipients are truly trying to get a job and are just down on their luck at the present time, then they would have no worries about that part of the hiring process.

As the article states, if you don’t agree with it, then just walk away. If you want help for the right reasons, submit to the urinalysis and stop spending my tax dollars on the things that you want, rather than need.