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	<title>Comments on: Gaetz: Six-Lane Widening For Portion Of Highway 29; New Bay Bridge</title>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OBEYING:
&quot;The ports are nothing to contemplate &quot;

Okay, you&#039;re the boss. 

David the obedient</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBEYING:<br />
&#8220;The ports are nothing to contemplate &#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, you&#8217;re the boss. </p>
<p>David the obedient</p>
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		<title>By: Again.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Again.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh..?  Ports?  The ports are nothing to contemplate about and are not even an issue. They are a separate function as indicated above.  However, this new roadway expansion project is good for our local economy.  The jobs this will create alone, will be very beneficial to many individuals.  As well, a new and functional infrastructure makes it more appealing and attractive for businesses to want to locate to our area. This is because they want to ensure shipments and cargo movement is logistically sound.  Yes, and even school bus routes may become more efficient and safer while driving in traffic that is free flowing.  I wish it could begin even sooner. 

It&#039;s awesome to know that someone in our state offices is thinking of us for once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh..?  Ports?  The ports are nothing to contemplate about and are not even an issue. They are a separate function as indicated above.  However, this new roadway expansion project is good for our local economy.  The jobs this will create alone, will be very beneficial to many individuals.  As well, a new and functional infrastructure makes it more appealing and attractive for businesses to want to locate to our area. This is because they want to ensure shipments and cargo movement is logistically sound.  Yes, and even school bus routes may become more efficient and safer while driving in traffic that is free flowing.  I wish it could begin even sooner. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s awesome to know that someone in our state offices is thinking of us for once.</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 04:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CONTEMPLATING:
&quot;Pensacola was a deep water port…for sailing ships. Spending money there is a waste. I think the port has lost money almost every year for decades.&quot;

Possibly. The question which comes to mind, though, is whether it is inherently a money loser or if it could be a money maker with proper upgrades. If it can&#039;t handle containers and containers are increasingly the main way to move cargo, then switching to  better loading and unloading capability for containers might bring in much more traffic and money. 

If dredging could easily allow deeper draft ships access, that might make a big difference. If it couldn&#039;t, it wouldn&#039;t.

I know Pensacola enjoys some tax advantages because it is a port. People in Elberton, GA have in the past told us they could truck in materials cheaper if they first went to Pensacola and then back to Bluff Springs. It&#039;s strange, but tax laws often are. Those advantages would be lost if it ceased to be a port.

Some ports have set up offshore platforms (linked to shore by pipelines) to transfer petroleum while still several miles out at sea so they don&#039;t get caught in harbor traffic. Just for fun imagine a floating platform a mile or two out, in water plenty deep for loading and unloading freighters with a submarine umbilicus (floating tunnel going through the water rather than through soil or rock, anchored above the bottom but below ship depths) going to land to allow transfers to and fro. It would create a super deep water port. Anchoring it against hurricanes would be a job but probably not impossible.

David for better transportation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CONTEMPLATING:<br />
&#8220;Pensacola was a deep water port…for sailing ships. Spending money there is a waste. I think the port has lost money almost every year for decades.&#8221;</p>
<p>Possibly. The question which comes to mind, though, is whether it is inherently a money loser or if it could be a money maker with proper upgrades. If it can&#8217;t handle containers and containers are increasingly the main way to move cargo, then switching to  better loading and unloading capability for containers might bring in much more traffic and money. </p>
<p>If dredging could easily allow deeper draft ships access, that might make a big difference. If it couldn&#8217;t, it wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I know Pensacola enjoys some tax advantages because it is a port. People in Elberton, GA have in the past told us they could truck in materials cheaper if they first went to Pensacola and then back to Bluff Springs. It&#8217;s strange, but tax laws often are. Those advantages would be lost if it ceased to be a port.</p>
<p>Some ports have set up offshore platforms (linked to shore by pipelines) to transfer petroleum while still several miles out at sea so they don&#8217;t get caught in harbor traffic. Just for fun imagine a floating platform a mile or two out, in water plenty deep for loading and unloading freighters with a submarine umbilicus (floating tunnel going through the water rather than through soil or rock, anchored above the bottom but below ship depths) going to land to allow transfers to and fro. It would create a super deep water port. Anchoring it against hurricanes would be a job but probably not impossible.</p>
<p>David for better transportation</p>
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		<title>By: D P</title>
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		<dc:creator>D P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For 3 mile bridge, I personally think they should make 6 lanes of traffic with the center 2 lanes being enclosed by concrete with gates at each end that open ONLY when there is an accident on the bridge.  The center lanes will allow traffic to continue moving while the accident is SAFELY being cleaned up and removed then the center lanes would close back off till the next time.  It sounds logical to me but nobody asked me so there ya go.  LoL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For 3 mile bridge, I personally think they should make 6 lanes of traffic with the center 2 lanes being enclosed by concrete with gates at each end that open ONLY when there is an accident on the bridge.  The center lanes will allow traffic to continue moving while the accident is SAFELY being cleaned up and removed then the center lanes would close back off till the next time.  It sounds logical to me but nobody asked me so there ya go.  LoL</p>
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		<title>By: Centrist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Centrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 02:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you&#039;ve got a business — you didn&#039;t build that. Somebody else made that happen........ who said that? Yep, that&#039;s right. Doesn&#039;t sound right does it ?

“Hundreds of jobs will be created during the engineering and construction of these projects,” Gaetz explained.  “But the real economic value is in building the arteries that get products to and from market.  A burst of construction getting that infrastructure in place will help our communities attract and keep growing businesses that need skilled workers for decades to come.”
Gaetz said he was told the initiative constitutes the largest single investment in our area’s transportation infrastructure in state history.

Thx Don for helping to bring our tax dollars back to the panhandle allowing our businesses to have decent infrastructure to move our employees, goods, and services. Our public roads, highways, and ports are critical to the future success of the Panhandle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you&#8217;ve got a business — you didn&#8217;t build that. Somebody else made that happen&#8230;&#8230;.. who said that? Yep, that&#8217;s right. Doesn&#8217;t sound right does it ?</p>
<p>“Hundreds of jobs will be created during the engineering and construction of these projects,” Gaetz explained.  “But the real economic value is in building the arteries that get products to and from market.  A burst of construction getting that infrastructure in place will help our communities attract and keep growing businesses that need skilled workers for decades to come.”<br />
Gaetz said he was told the initiative constitutes the largest single investment in our area’s transportation infrastructure in state history.</p>
<p>Thx Don for helping to bring our tax dollars back to the panhandle allowing our businesses to have decent infrastructure to move our employees, goods, and services. Our public roads, highways, and ports are critical to the future success of the Panhandle.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 16:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pensacola was a deep water port...for sailing ships. Spending money there is a waste. I think the port has lost money almost every year for decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pensacola was a deep water port&#8230;for sailing ships. Spending money there is a waste. I think the port has lost money almost every year for decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 15:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based upon drawings I have seen, the new Pensacola Bay Bridge will have three traffic lanes, a full-sized shoulder to the left AND the right, plus a pedestrian/bike path protected by a barrier. This will apply to northbound AND southbound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based upon drawings I have seen, the new Pensacola Bay Bridge will have three traffic lanes, a full-sized shoulder to the left AND the right, plus a pedestrian/bike path protected by a barrier. This will apply to northbound AND southbound.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the intersection mentioned is currently a tight urban diamond.  At least according to what I just read on Wikipedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the intersection mentioned is currently a tight urban diamond.  At least according to what I just read on Wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrissy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrissy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link below shows an example and explanation of the Tight Urban Diamond: 
http://2isfo.eng.hawaii.edu/Presentations/Session%2023_Student%20Competition/23%20-%20Amer%20%20%28PPT%29.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link below shows an example and explanation of the Tight Urban Diamond:<br />
<a href="http://2isfo.eng.hawaii.edu/Presentations/Session%2023_Student%20Competition/23%20-%20Amer%20%20%28PPT%29.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://2isfo.eng.hawaii.edu/Presentations/Session%2023_Student%20Competition/23%20-%20Amer%20%20%28PPT%29.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: A-Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>A-Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 13:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Chris. What a poorly designed on ramp where your lane is traffic compressed into the bridge on the fast lane side of I-10 in a curve. Can&#039;t believe that hasn&#039;t been fixed. The only way I see to fix it is to go under the bridge as you go south on Hwy 29 and left turn like you do at pine forest road and I-10 and millions of other intersections like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Chris. What a poorly designed on ramp where your lane is traffic compressed into the bridge on the fast lane side of I-10 in a curve. Can&#8217;t believe that hasn&#8217;t been fixed. The only way I see to fix it is to go under the bridge as you go south on Hwy 29 and left turn like you do at pine forest road and I-10 and millions of other intersections like that.</p>
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