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	<title>Comments on: Trayvon Martin&#8217;s Mother Calls For &#8216;Stand Your Ground&#8217; Repeal</title>
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		<title>By: bob hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the media had done its job, and reported what really happen,  with out injecting their hype, or opinion, then none of this would have happened, We would know the truth,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the media had done its job, and reported what really happen,  with out injecting their hype, or opinion, then none of this would have happened, We would know the truth,</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 01:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get rid of the law . . .  Floridians were already protected in their homes and cars with the Castle Doctrine before it was changed by the gun lobby . . .  . if you entered someone&#039;s home or attacked them in their car, they could use deadly force and no one could argue with it.  What they did by changing the law is move the boundary where &quot;standing your ground&quot; is applied . . . . so that no its not ONLY in the safety of your own home or car but everywhere you walk where the law exists.  That means someone can be at your home and claim they were standing their ground when they kill you . . . . lets pull the law back and have it apply to only your homes and cars once again and we won&#039;t have so many of these incidents with people being murdered just because someone feels &quot;threatened&quot; on the streets.  This case is not just about Trayvon, there are lots of regular people gunned down in the streets because where you can claim self defense is in a gray area now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get rid of the law . . .  Floridians were already protected in their homes and cars with the Castle Doctrine before it was changed by the gun lobby . . .  . if you entered someone&#8217;s home or attacked them in their car, they could use deadly force and no one could argue with it.  What they did by changing the law is move the boundary where &#8220;standing your ground&#8221; is applied . . . . so that no its not ONLY in the safety of your own home or car but everywhere you walk where the law exists.  That means someone can be at your home and claim they were standing their ground when they kill you . . . . lets pull the law back and have it apply to only your homes and cars once again and we won&#8217;t have so many of these incidents with people being murdered just because someone feels &#8220;threatened&#8221; on the streets.  This case is not just about Trayvon, there are lots of regular people gunned down in the streets because where you can claim self defense is in a gray area now.</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CONSIDERING:
“I agree you are for the “truth” and have indeed revealed your inner thoughts.”

If I have revealed my inner thoughts by stating a fact, then you would probably conclude if I say Aristotle was a Greek that must reveal I am secretly a Lithuanian dwarf. If the analogy doesn’t make sense to you, go back and consider your initial conditions and the conclusion you reached from them.

AND
“- - - if I were walking home from the grocery store wearing my hood, (because it’s cold, or I if just liked to wear it) and David Huie Green pulled up beside me in his “Big Shiny Yellow School Bus” and began to question me “in plain clothes”.  - - -  he does not have a right to then continue to pursue and follow me to my home.”

Very good example.

You believe school buses are yellow because you’ve been told they’re yellow. If you were to put a yellow object and an orange object up beside one of them, you’d discover they aren’t yellow but are orange. But you won’t do that because you already know they’re yellow.

Similarly, you have the culprit stalking and challenging the innocent child. You didn’t see it happen but you KNOW it happened exactly that way. 

AND
“ If people could put their biases aside and think if the tables were turned, I think they would be able to see things a little bit differently.”

I agree with that too. But then, I’m not the one who KNOWS exactly what happened without being there.

David for true knowledge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CONSIDERING:<br />
“I agree you are for the “truth” and have indeed revealed your inner thoughts.”</p>
<p>If I have revealed my inner thoughts by stating a fact, then you would probably conclude if I say Aristotle was a Greek that must reveal I am secretly a Lithuanian dwarf. If the analogy doesn’t make sense to you, go back and consider your initial conditions and the conclusion you reached from them.</p>
<p>AND<br />
“- &#8211; - if I were walking home from the grocery store wearing my hood, (because it’s cold, or I if just liked to wear it) and David Huie Green pulled up beside me in his “Big Shiny Yellow School Bus” and began to question me “in plain clothes”.  &#8211; - &#8211;  he does not have a right to then continue to pursue and follow me to my home.”</p>
<p>Very good example.</p>
<p>You believe school buses are yellow because you’ve been told they’re yellow. If you were to put a yellow object and an orange object up beside one of them, you’d discover they aren’t yellow but are orange. But you won’t do that because you already know they’re yellow.</p>
<p>Similarly, you have the culprit stalking and challenging the innocent child. You didn’t see it happen but you KNOW it happened exactly that way. </p>
<p>AND<br />
“ If people could put their biases aside and think if the tables were turned, I think they would be able to see things a little bit differently.”</p>
<p>I agree with that too. But then, I’m not the one who KNOWS exactly what happened without being there.</p>
<p>David for true knowledge</p>
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		<title>By: Mike J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget that it was the news media, NBC, who edited that 911 tape to make it sound like Zimmerman was targeting Martin&#039;s race.  Also the defense team for weeks (months?) tried to get photographs taken by the police of Zimmerman&#039;s injuries and they were finally given black-and-white copies of the pictures.  Well, later when the color versions were relased we could see the blood on Zimmerman&#039;s face and head that were not visible in the black-and-white photos.  So to hide evidence and to edit evidence are signs of unethical tampering to me.  Common sense?  Unfortunately, common sense is not so common anymore.  And that&#039;s a fact.  I do sympathize with Ms. Fulton, but facts are facts (as long as they are not tamptered with by those pushing their own agendas).  Have a nice day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that it was the news media, NBC, who edited that 911 tape to make it sound like Zimmerman was targeting Martin&#8217;s race.  Also the defense team for weeks (months?) tried to get photographs taken by the police of Zimmerman&#8217;s injuries and they were finally given black-and-white copies of the pictures.  Well, later when the color versions were relased we could see the blood on Zimmerman&#8217;s face and head that were not visible in the black-and-white photos.  So to hide evidence and to edit evidence are signs of unethical tampering to me.  Common sense?  Unfortunately, common sense is not so common anymore.  And that&#8217;s a fact.  I do sympathize with Ms. Fulton, but facts are facts (as long as they are not tamptered with by those pushing their own agendas).  Have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: Really?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Really?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points @Michael Murph! I agree totally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points @Michael Murph! I agree totally.</p>
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		<title>By: Really?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Really?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ David Huie Green. This is funny.. Uhh... I didn&#039;t bring &quot;race up&quot; but YOU did.  It would be kind of hard for me to, considering my own race.  In any case, I agree you are for the &quot;truth&quot; and have indeed revealed your inner thoughts. Now read this as I do NOW consider race:  As a white woman, if I were walking home from the grocery store wearing my hood, (because it&#039;s cold, or I if just liked to wear it) and David Hue Green pulled up beside me in his &quot;Big Shiny Yellow School Bus&quot; and began to question me &quot;in plain clothes&quot;.  First, I would think, this guy is really creepy.  Second, I may choose to answer him or I may not, and that&#039;s my prerogative.  If I chose not  to answer this man following me, (because he&#039;s creepy and a stranger), he does not have a right to then continue to pursue and follow me to my home.  So, if he did continue, and if I had just ONE of MY GUNS that Obama didn&#039;t take, I would have shot this unidentified creepy stalker, FIRST!  Aside from the media, the FACT remains that Trayvon was unarmed while he was being followed. In my opinion, that may have been his first mistake more than anything. Really. If people could put their biases aside and think if the tables were turned, I think they would be able to see things a little bit differently. Really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ David Huie Green. This is funny.. Uhh&#8230; I didn&#8217;t bring &#8220;race up&#8221; but YOU did.  It would be kind of hard for me to, considering my own race.  In any case, I agree you are for the &#8220;truth&#8221; and have indeed revealed your inner thoughts. Now read this as I do NOW consider race:  As a white woman, if I were walking home from the grocery store wearing my hood, (because it&#8217;s cold, or I if just liked to wear it) and David Hue Green pulled up beside me in his &#8220;Big Shiny Yellow School Bus&#8221; and began to question me &#8220;in plain clothes&#8221;.  First, I would think, this guy is really creepy.  Second, I may choose to answer him or I may not, and that&#8217;s my prerogative.  If I chose not  to answer this man following me, (because he&#8217;s creepy and a stranger), he does not have a right to then continue to pursue and follow me to my home.  So, if he did continue, and if I had just ONE of MY GUNS that Obama didn&#8217;t take, I would have shot this unidentified creepy stalker, FIRST!  Aside from the media, the FACT remains that Trayvon was unarmed while he was being followed. In my opinion, that may have been his first mistake more than anything. Really. If people could put their biases aside and think if the tables were turned, I think they would be able to see things a little bit differently. Really.</p>
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		<title>By: WG</title>
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		<dc:creator>WG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said DJS !!!! Well said.</description>
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		<title>By: CSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>CSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t stand it when the news media doesn&#039;t report the entire ordeal. I support Zimmerman, he would not have shot poor little trayvon if he was not beating his face in and slamming his head in the concrete. If this was done more we wouldn&#039;t have problems like this because the criminals would be scared to do something wrong!! As always the &quot;Democrats&quot; have to throw that special card down to get attention for their biased opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stand it when the news media doesn&#8217;t report the entire ordeal. I support Zimmerman, he would not have shot poor little trayvon if he was not beating his face in and slamming his head in the concrete. If this was done more we wouldn&#8217;t have problems like this because the criminals would be scared to do something wrong!! As always the &#8220;Democrats&#8221; have to throw that special card down to get attention for their biased opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Murph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Murph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms.Fulton&#039;s cause is misguided by her emotions. According to the press in August, Mr. Zimmerman&#039;s defense stated that they will not use a &quot;Stand Your Ground&quot; defense but standard self defense. Stand Your Ground only applies if you have an opportunity to retreat. You can&#039;t retreat when someone is on top of you beating your face in. If Mr. Zimmerman&#039;s story is true, the use of deadly force was justified. 

The court must examine the facts and come to the best logical conclusion. Just because Mr. Martin was unarmed does not mean that he was not the aggressor, nor  does it meant that he was. Hopefully there will be enough facts in the case that justice will prevail what ever that is.

Ms. Fulton fails to see that she could benefit from Stand Your Ground were she ever attacked by a man, God forbid. Without the law, she could be prosecuted for using deadly force against an unarmed attacker. This seems unreasonable to most of us around here, but it certainly happens in other states where people are prosecuted for defending themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms.Fulton&#8217;s cause is misguided by her emotions. According to the press in August, Mr. Zimmerman&#8217;s defense stated that they will not use a &#8220;Stand Your Ground&#8221; defense but standard self defense. Stand Your Ground only applies if you have an opportunity to retreat. You can&#8217;t retreat when someone is on top of you beating your face in. If Mr. Zimmerman&#8217;s story is true, the use of deadly force was justified. </p>
<p>The court must examine the facts and come to the best logical conclusion. Just because Mr. Martin was unarmed does not mean that he was not the aggressor, nor  does it meant that he was. Hopefully there will be enough facts in the case that justice will prevail what ever that is.</p>
<p>Ms. Fulton fails to see that she could benefit from Stand Your Ground were she ever attacked by a man, God forbid. Without the law, she could be prosecuted for using deadly force against an unarmed attacker. This seems unreasonable to most of us around here, but it certainly happens in other states where people are prosecuted for defending themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: DJS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jewel.....What IF it was your child? Would you say that then.

To answer your question.....NO I wouldn&#039;t call for a repeal on the law! The law has been passed for a reason, which I support 110%. Each case is different, period and it&#039;s for the court system to decide.

Remember......Martin didn&#039;t live in Sanford, a central Florida city of about 53,000 people. Yet by that winter night, he&#039;d been there for seven days, after being suspended for the third time from Dr. Michael M. Krop High School in Miami, in this instance, for 10 days after drug residue was found in his backpack, according to records obtained by the Miami Herald.

So, please tell me how Trayvon  had every right to be in that neighborhood? He didn&#039;t even live in Sanford. His father and mother took him {4} hours away from home after he continued to cause trouble in high school. His father Tracy had taken his son four hours away from home because neither he or Trayvon Martin&#039;s mother wanted the teen to stay in his hometown. Why is that?

But, if Trayvon was 100% INNOCENT why didn&#039;t he just stop and talk to Zimmerman and explain why he was in the neighborhood? Either way a life was taken. Now it&#039;s up to the court system to do their job and do what is right. Bashing the &quot;stand your ground&quot; law without educating yourself further is ignorant any people&#039;s part. It was put into place for a reason.....do some research!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jewel&#8230;..What IF it was your child? Would you say that then.</p>
<p>To answer your question&#8230;..NO I wouldn&#8217;t call for a repeal on the law! The law has been passed for a reason, which I support 110%. Each case is different, period and it&#8217;s for the court system to decide.</p>
<p>Remember&#8230;&#8230;Martin didn&#8217;t live in Sanford, a central Florida city of about 53,000 people. Yet by that winter night, he&#8217;d been there for seven days, after being suspended for the third time from Dr. Michael M. Krop High School in Miami, in this instance, for 10 days after drug residue was found in his backpack, according to records obtained by the Miami Herald.</p>
<p>So, please tell me how Trayvon  had every right to be in that neighborhood? He didn&#8217;t even live in Sanford. His father and mother took him {4} hours away from home after he continued to cause trouble in high school. His father Tracy had taken his son four hours away from home because neither he or Trayvon Martin&#8217;s mother wanted the teen to stay in his hometown. Why is that?</p>
<p>But, if Trayvon was 100% INNOCENT why didn&#8217;t he just stop and talk to Zimmerman and explain why he was in the neighborhood? Either way a life was taken. Now it&#8217;s up to the court system to do their job and do what is right. Bashing the &#8220;stand your ground&#8221; law without educating yourself further is ignorant any people&#8217;s part. It was put into place for a reason&#8230;..do some research!</p>
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