Comments on: Supreme Court Upholds State Employee 3-Percent Pension Law http://www.northescambia.com/2013/01/supreme-court-upholds-state-employee-3-percent-pension-law Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Thu, 23 Apr 2026 03:23:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ProudArmyParent http://www.northescambia.com/2013/01/supreme-court-upholds-state-employee-3-percent-pension-law/comment-page-1#comment-182621 ProudArmyParent Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:22:11 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=124820#comment-182621 Dear Private sector employee, You commented....."I can’t afford to pay your pensions without your help." Well could you atleast give us a raise? We have been passed over for the past eight years. Other entities get raises but, not us!!!!!!! And then you have the nerve to take pay from us. What a SLAP in the face. Dear Private sector employee,
You commented…..”I can’t afford to pay your pensions without your help.” Well could you atleast give us a raise? We have been passed over for the past eight years. Other entities get raises but, not us!!!!!!! And then you have the nerve to take pay from us. What a SLAP in the face.

]]> By: curious http://www.northescambia.com/2013/01/supreme-court-upholds-state-employee-3-percent-pension-law/comment-page-1#comment-182475 curious Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:04:28 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=124820#comment-182475 @private sector employee I'm sure your husband really appreciates you paying his way all these years, with your heat on i can just imagine how cold it must be on the inside of your house. You also will get back when he gets his if your still married. Its funny to me that nobody wants to do what the state workers do but then they can tell them what to or how to do it. @private sector employee I’m sure your husband really appreciates you paying his way all these years, with your heat on i can just imagine how cold it must be on the inside of your house. You also will get back when he gets his if your still married. Its funny to me that nobody wants to do what the state workers do but then they can tell them what to or how to do it.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2013/01/supreme-court-upholds-state-employee-3-percent-pension-law/comment-page-1#comment-182473 David Huie Green Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:00:43 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=124820#comment-182473 REGARDING: "Why should we have to pay for all of your retirement plans? " You shouldn't. There is no law of nature which specifies what an employee's pay will be but if the contract states the retirement will be part of the payment for working, that contract should be honored -- not arbitrarily changed by one party because other people weren‘t under the same contract, didn‘t do it the same way. That's why they said it would be fine to have a new contract for new hires but it is stealing to promise payment and then decide to withhold it just because that payment is expensive or other people do it differently. David for honest government and the Easter Bunny REGARDING:
“Why should we have to pay for all of your retirement plans? ”

You shouldn’t.

There is no law of nature which specifies what an employee’s pay will be but if the contract states the retirement will be part of the payment for working, that contract should be honored — not arbitrarily changed by one party because other people weren‘t under the same contract, didn‘t do it the same way.

That’s why they said it would be fine to have a new contract for new hires but it is stealing to promise payment and then decide to withhold it just because that payment is expensive or other people do it differently.

David for honest government
and the Easter Bunny

]]> By: Private sector employee http://www.northescambia.com/2013/01/supreme-court-upholds-state-employee-3-percent-pension-law/comment-page-1#comment-182456 Private sector employee Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:23:24 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=124820#comment-182456 I feel your pain state workers. My husband works for the state of FL but I am a private sector worker. Unfortunately changing from the old style defined benefit pension plan to deferred payment plans is a national trend. Governor Scott did not come up with this idea. The changes being implemented are accepted business practices/models across the country. I hear many comments across this forum about "the people of the state" well, private sector workers are also people of the state. Why should we have to pay for all of your retirement plans? How would you like to have your tax dollars deposited into and eaten up by my (the private sector) retirement fund? I am just saying we all are having to pay for our own retirement funds. And by the way, I have worked for my company for 21 years and yes we started out with a defined benefit pension plan but the rules changed and now we have to share the cost & risk with our employer just like the state of FL is now requiring from State workers. Change is a fact of life and the economy will no longer support the old system. I can't afford to pay your pensions without your help. At least you will eventually get some of the money. I will never recoup what I have to pay toward your pension. I feel your pain state workers. My husband works for the state of FL but I am a private sector worker. Unfortunately changing from the old style defined benefit pension plan to deferred payment plans is a national trend. Governor Scott did not come up with this idea. The changes being implemented are accepted business practices/models across the country. I hear many comments across this forum about “the people of the state” well, private sector workers are also people of the state. Why should we have to pay for all of your retirement plans? How would you like to have your tax dollars deposited into and eaten up by my (the private sector) retirement fund? I am just saying we all are having to pay for our own retirement funds. And by the way, I have worked for my company for 21 years and yes we started out with a defined benefit pension plan but the rules changed and now we have to share the cost & risk with our employer just like the state of FL is now requiring from State workers. Change is a fact of life and the economy will no longer support the old system. I can’t afford to pay your pensions without your help. At least you will eventually get some of the money. I will never recoup what I have to pay toward your pension.

]]> By: Betty H http://www.northescambia.com/2013/01/supreme-court-upholds-state-employee-3-percent-pension-law/comment-page-1#comment-182441 Betty H Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:45:21 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=124820#comment-182441 Same thing basically happened to the military..In the 60's during Vietnam guys were promised free medical etc if they stayed and made the military a career but a few years back it was...oops...we screwed up and you have to pay for medical insurance now..Government is a pack of 2 faced liars. Same thing basically happened to the military..In the 60’s during Vietnam guys were promised free medical etc if they stayed and made the military a career but a few years back it was…oops…we screwed up and you have to pay for medical insurance now..Government is a pack of 2 faced liars.

]]> By: good for all http://www.northescambia.com/2013/01/supreme-court-upholds-state-employee-3-percent-pension-law/comment-page-1#comment-182342 good for all Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:24:02 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=124820#comment-182342 @zelda say when you started your current job, your boss stated he would place 15 percent of your monthly pay into an investment accout for you if you stayed with him for 25 years. you and him signed a contract stating that. If at 24 years he said, no I was just joking, you would be in court screaming breach of contract. Get real and step off the short bus. @zelda
say when you started your current job, your boss stated he would place 15 percent of your monthly pay into an investment accout for you if you stayed with him for 25 years. you and him signed a contract stating that. If at 24 years he said, no I was just joking, you would be in court screaming breach of contract. Get real and step off the short bus.

]]> By: curious http://www.northescambia.com/2013/01/supreme-court-upholds-state-employee-3-percent-pension-law/comment-page-1#comment-182327 curious Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:24:14 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=124820#comment-182327 Wife of state employee: whether you realize this or not it affects all employees with the FRS including your husband because my husband became employed& signed the old contract & they take it out of his paycheck. I will say that if Scott wanted to do this he should have started with new hires on a certain date. Wife of state employee: whether you realize this or not it affects all employees with the FRS including your husband because my husband became employed& signed the old contract & they take it out of his paycheck. I will say that if Scott wanted to do this he should have started with new hires on a certain date.

]]> By: rachael http://www.northescambia.com/2013/01/supreme-court-upholds-state-employee-3-percent-pension-law/comment-page-1#comment-182325 rachael Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:52:30 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=124820#comment-182325 i guess the private sector has to honor contracts but the goverment doesn't. i guess the private sector has to honor contracts but the goverment doesn’t.

]]> By: Otto http://www.northescambia.com/2013/01/supreme-court-upholds-state-employee-3-percent-pension-law/comment-page-1#comment-182318 Otto Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:20:37 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=124820#comment-182318 Here is an idea, all of the elected officials should have to pay 3% into the pension fund for all the perks that they get from lobbyists. Just imagine how much could be afdded to the fund from all the junkets that they go on. Here is an idea, all of the elected officials should have to pay 3% into the pension fund for all the perks that they get from lobbyists. Just imagine how much could be afdded to the fund from all the junkets that they go on.

]]> By: Mark T http://www.northescambia.com/2013/01/supreme-court-upholds-state-employee-3-percent-pension-law/comment-page-1#comment-182268 Mark T Sat, 19 Jan 2013 22:26:35 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=124820#comment-182268 The People who say I don't have it or I lost mine, and who want to see people that do have a pension lose theirs, is exactly the reason we are all going to lose them eventually... 401ks are a bad joke for retirement plans that really just benefit Wall St. and Investment firms. Ask the people who were retired at the time during the recession and stock market crash how their 401 ks fared.. Defined Pensions might be a thing of the past for some,But instead taking glee at the sight of others losing theirs too, we should all be standing together to get them back and keeping the ones we still have ! The People who say I don’t have it or I lost mine, and who want to see people that do have a pension lose theirs, is exactly the reason we are all going to lose them eventually… 401ks are a bad joke for retirement plans that really just benefit Wall St. and Investment firms. Ask the people who were retired at the time during the recession and stock market crash how their 401 ks fared.. Defined Pensions might be a thing of the past for some,But instead taking glee at the sight of others losing theirs too, we should all be standing together to get them back and keeping the ones we still have !

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