Comments on: Federal Health Care Law Touches Off Florida Brouhaha http://www.northescambia.com/2012/12/federal-health-care-law-touches-off-florida-brouhaha Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Thu, 16 Apr 2026 00:03:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2012/12/federal-health-care-law-touches-off-florida-brouhaha/comment-page-1#comment-161789 David Huie Green Wed, 05 Dec 2012 23:56:47 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=120475#comment-161789 REGARDING: “They did not need to read it to pass it because they are exempt from it, just like they are exempt from reality.” Not really. They aren’t exempt because many of those who passed it were voted out of office and no longer have the benefit of being public servants. It affected them and their families and friends, therefore it affected them. Nancy Pelosi wasn’t exempt from the push because it kicked her out of Speaker of House position due to disapproval of the way she pushed it through. She didn’t care if it was constitutional or not, she just wanted to exercise her power while she had it. (It turns out it WAS constitutional, under the taxing authority of Congress but she didn’t know that at the time or care.) If they DID want government health care, they didn’t have time to read their own bill because the incoming set of representatives would most likely not pass it no matter how wonderful it was. David for voter feedback REGARDING:
“They did not need to read it to pass it because they are exempt from it, just like they are exempt from reality.”

Not really.

They aren’t exempt because many of those who passed it were voted out of office and no longer have the benefit of being public servants. It affected them and their families and friends, therefore it affected them.

Nancy Pelosi wasn’t exempt from the push because it kicked her out of Speaker of House position due to disapproval of the way she pushed it through. She didn’t care if it was constitutional or not, she just wanted to exercise her power while she had it. (It turns out it WAS constitutional, under the taxing authority of Congress but she didn’t know that at the time or care.)

If they DID want government health care, they didn’t have time to read their own bill because the incoming set of representatives would most likely not pass it no matter how wonderful it was.

David for voter feedback

]]> By: Charlene http://www.northescambia.com/2012/12/federal-health-care-law-touches-off-florida-brouhaha/comment-page-1#comment-161706 Charlene Wed, 05 Dec 2012 20:25:35 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=120475#comment-161706 They did not need to read it to pass it because they are exempt from it, just like they are exempt from reality. Send the members of the House and the Senate into a grocery store, put them under the Obama Care Plan and make them pay for their on gas and maybe a light bulb will come on in the dark that represents their brains. Oh and while we are at it send in the Leader of the not so free world which we are about to become and let him pay for his own health care, gas , food and everything else like the rest of us but make sure it is with a paycheck under $30,000.00 dollars a year. Perhaps if that happened it would be easier to balance a actual budget instead of spending other people's money. I would like all the free cell phones, food and health care but unfortunately I am one of those worker bee's that have to work for all the people that don't. They did not need to read it to pass it because they are exempt from it, just like they are exempt from reality. Send the members of the House and the Senate into a grocery store, put them under the Obama Care Plan and make them pay for their on gas and maybe a light bulb will come on in the dark that represents their brains. Oh and while we are at it send in the Leader of the not so free world which we are about to become and let him pay for his own health care, gas , food and everything else like the rest of us but make sure it is with a paycheck under $30,000.00 dollars a year. Perhaps if that happened it would be easier to balance a actual budget instead of spending other people’s money. I would like all the free cell phones, food and health care but unfortunately I am one of those worker bee’s that have to work for all the people that don’t.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2012/12/federal-health-care-law-touches-off-florida-brouhaha/comment-page-1#comment-161445 David Huie Green Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:38:13 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=120475#comment-161445 REGARDING: "The supreme court upheld it, thats all that matters." It should be were it not for those who act like they don't care if they did uphold it or not. "America wants Obamacare, thats why they voted him in. This is now his 2nd term, " Actually, that starts next month.. David for truth REGARDING:
“The supreme court upheld it, thats all that matters.”

It should be were it not for those who act like they don’t care if they did uphold it or not.

“America wants Obamacare, thats why they voted him in. This is now his 2nd term, ”

Actually, that starts next month..

David for truth

]]> By: huh http://www.northescambia.com/2012/12/federal-health-care-law-touches-off-florida-brouhaha/comment-page-1#comment-161194 huh Tue, 04 Dec 2012 23:29:47 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=120475#comment-161194 The supreme court upheld it, thats all that matters. America wants Obamacare, thats why they voted him in. This is now his 2nd term, clearly the rest of America doesn't agree with the few posters here ... You guys are the minority The supreme court upheld it, thats all that matters. America wants Obamacare, thats why they voted him in. This is now his 2nd term, clearly the rest of America doesn’t agree with the few posters here … You guys are the minority

]]> By: Bob hudson http://www.northescambia.com/2012/12/federal-health-care-law-touches-off-florida-brouhaha/comment-page-1#comment-161150 Bob hudson Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:47:00 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=120475#comment-161150 I say bog it down till they repeal it . And start over. I say bog it down till they repeal it . And start over.

]]> By: deBugger http://www.northescambia.com/2012/12/federal-health-care-law-touches-off-florida-brouhaha/comment-page-1#comment-161139 deBugger Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:24:12 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=120475#comment-161139 Nice to know that our "elected representatives" know how to throw hissy fits in the Halls of the Legislature. Don't agree with what a majority of voters or the court system have to say about an issue? Obfuscate, obstruct, get your panties in a wad, & prepare to take your ball & go home. I fear there are no states(men) left in government. Nice to know that our “elected representatives” know how to throw hissy fits in the Halls of the Legislature.

Don’t agree with what a majority of voters or the court system have to say about an issue? Obfuscate, obstruct, get your panties in a wad, & prepare to take your ball & go home.

I fear there are no states(men) left in government.

]]> By: Margielu http://www.northescambia.com/2012/12/federal-health-care-law-touches-off-florida-brouhaha/comment-page-1#comment-161135 Margielu Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:17:46 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=120475#comment-161135 Obamacare makes as much sense as Citizens Insurance. The most they both have in common is governments attempting to meddle in the insurance industry. Obamacare makes as much sense as Citizens Insurance. The most they both have in common is governments attempting to meddle in the insurance industry.

]]> By: Bob hudson http://www.northescambia.com/2012/12/federal-health-care-law-touches-off-florida-brouhaha/comment-page-1#comment-161074 Bob hudson Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:07:29 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=120475#comment-161074 Real world, most of America does not want it, so , let the states drag their feet and cause the Feds as many problems as they can, This is what happens when you try to shove some thing down one's throat. It was not read and was passed by idiots. Real world, most of America does not want it, so , let the states drag their feet and cause the Feds as many problems as they can, This is what happens when you try to shove some thing down one’s throat. It was not read and was passed by idiots.

]]> By: David Schwartz http://www.northescambia.com/2012/12/federal-health-care-law-touches-off-florida-brouhaha/comment-page-1#comment-161042 David Schwartz Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:40:14 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=120475#comment-161042 And now...the dumb part. People who oppose setting up Health Insurance Exchanges by the state do so because they oppose the Federal Government having a hand in telling the states how to run run healthcare in state. But refusing to set it up on their own absolutely assures that the federal government will do it for them. (face palm) The Affordable Care Act is the law of the land, Supreme Court Tested. (The most conservative court in decades I might add.) It's real, it's happening so we'd best prepare for it properly or someone else will do it for us. Time to grow up people. Holding your breath and stomping your feet is going to change it. It's simply going to marginalize the GOP even further which is now almost exclusively the party of old white men. In Healthcare, they use something called actuary tables. They are not working in your favor. And now…the dumb part. People who oppose setting up Health Insurance Exchanges by the state do so because they oppose the Federal Government having a hand in telling the states how to run run healthcare in state. But refusing to set it up on their own absolutely assures that the federal government will do it for them. (face palm) The Affordable Care Act is the law of the land, Supreme Court Tested. (The most conservative court in decades I might add.) It’s real, it’s happening so we’d best prepare for it properly or someone else will do it for us. Time to grow up people. Holding your breath and stomping your feet is going to change it. It’s simply going to marginalize the GOP even further which is now almost exclusively the party of old white men. In Healthcare, they use something called actuary tables. They are not working in your favor.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2012/12/federal-health-care-law-touches-off-florida-brouhaha/comment-page-1#comment-160994 David Huie Green Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:38:07 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=120475#comment-160994 REGARDING: “Also, he pointed to part of the U.S. Constitution that originally treated black people as less than white people for representation purposes.” He shows a bit of ignorance there. Black people were treated as less than white people in that they could be owned as property, but unless they were owned, they were treated the same as anyone else for representation purposes per Article One, Section Two of the Constitution: “Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.” Notice that the defining notion was that those who were free or could be free were to be counted (unless they were untaxed Indians). The slave owning states wanted slaves counted at full value so they would have more power in the House of Representatives. The non slave owning states didn’t want them counted at all since they were considered property rather than citizens. They compromised on reduced representation. Had they not done so, neither the slave owning states or the non slave owning states would have agreed to unite under the Constitution. Thus, Smith’s wrong when he says, ““The federal government had to step in because our constitution is an imperfect document,” - - - “If it was perfect, you would not have amendments to it.” The federal government doesn’t step in to override the Constitution because of its flaws and it’d be nice if he understood it should be followed until such time as it’s amended because it IS the official agreement. David for truth REGARDING:
“Also, he pointed to part of the U.S. Constitution that originally treated black people as less than white people for representation purposes.”

He shows a bit of ignorance there. Black people were treated as less than white people in that they could be owned as property, but unless they were owned, they were treated the same as anyone else for representation purposes per Article One, Section Two of the Constitution:

“Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.”

Notice that the defining notion was that those who were free or could be free were to be counted (unless they were untaxed Indians).

The slave owning states wanted slaves counted at full value so they would have more power in the House of Representatives. The non slave owning states didn’t want them counted at all since they were considered property rather than citizens.

They compromised on reduced representation. Had they not done so, neither the slave owning states or the non slave owning states would have agreed to unite under the Constitution.

Thus, Smith’s wrong when he says, ““The federal government had to step in because our constitution is an imperfect document,” – - – “If it was perfect, you would not have amendments to it.”

The federal government doesn’t step in to override the Constitution because of its flaws and it’d be nice if he understood it should be followed until such time as it’s amended because it IS the official agreement.

David for truth

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