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	<title>Comments on: Escambia Moving Forward With $1.5 Million 4-H Facility</title>
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		<title>By: 4-H Alumni</title>
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		<dc:creator>4-H Alumni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 19:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speechless....for a sec.......This is such a travesty of justice....what was intended for a perpetual gift for past,present and future youth of our county has morphed into a fight over $$$&#039;s for the mighty and powerful &quot;system&quot; to receive gain...
If we don&#039;t do it right - right now - the present and future youth will not have resources available to learn important life skills in the agricultural and animal husbandry fields. 
A student does not learn with only classroom experience....there are enough &quot;college grads&quot; in the system who don&#039;t do the &quot;in- field&quot; calls necessary to properly facilitate the duties of the current Ex. Office system. 
Visual and hands on lessons are so important to most of our youth for the complete learning  cycle.  To restrict the field and barn lessons would stifle the determination and resolve, the ability to process all of the skills necessary to adequately become a true 4-Her...head, heart,hands and health.  
Ironic.....the very motto we are trying to preserve is the very one that is being tragically yanked away.     :(  Without the land, environment, space, agricultural equipment and other related resources...our kids will not have the necessary tools of learning as a springboard for the future of agriculture...in our town, our county, or our country.  Sad....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speechless&#8230;.for a sec&#8230;&#8230;.This is such a travesty of justice&#8230;.what was intended for a perpetual gift for past,present and future youth of our county has morphed into a fight over $$$&#8217;s for the mighty and powerful &#8220;system&#8221; to receive gain&#8230;<br />
If we don&#8217;t do it right &#8211; right now &#8211; the present and future youth will not have resources available to learn important life skills in the agricultural and animal husbandry fields.<br />
A student does not learn with only classroom experience&#8230;.there are enough &#8220;college grads&#8221; in the system who don&#8217;t do the &#8220;in- field&#8221; calls necessary to properly facilitate the duties of the current Ex. Office system.<br />
Visual and hands on lessons are so important to most of our youth for the complete learning  cycle.  To restrict the field and barn lessons would stifle the determination and resolve, the ability to process all of the skills necessary to adequately become a true 4-Her&#8230;head, heart,hands and health.<br />
Ironic&#8230;..the very motto we are trying to preserve is the very one that is being tragically yanked away.     <img src='http://www.northescambia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   Without the land, environment, space, agricultural equipment and other related resources&#8230;our kids will not have the necessary tools of learning as a springboard for the future of agriculture&#8230;in our town, our county, or our country.  Sad&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Whatthehay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whatthehay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 17:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE WHOLE POINT IS: this land was never ever suppose to sold to begin with, it did not belong to the aka county it was donated in good faith to  the 4H, the cc would not encourage anything ifit had not been sold to begin with. This land was to be there long after all of us are gone. You tell me how you could ever replace the nature and beauty of this piece of land, it wasn&#039;t just about livestock and growing things, some children have never seen land like this and sadly now they never will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE WHOLE POINT IS: this land was never ever suppose to sold to begin with, it did not belong to the aka county it was donated in good faith to  the 4H, the cc would not encourage anything ifit had not been sold to begin with. This land was to be there long after all of us are gone. You tell me how you could ever replace the nature and beauty of this piece of land, it wasn&#8217;t just about livestock and growing things, some children have never seen land like this and sadly now they never will.</p>
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		<title>By: david lamb</title>
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		<dc:creator>david lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 16:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick Place sounds reasonable. In my conversations with him, he has stated that he wants all the possibi;lities and info before he makes a decision. WRE need to keep the pressure on him,but write/call/email the commisio0ners too!
 I was told by a person in the know that dear Pam asked him if 10 acres would suffice and if he knew where there was 10 acres for sale. His answer was a resounding NO. If you want to discuss the Bayer property I AM ALL FOR THAT!
Bet Miss Allen went away mad!
Spending money on Stefani Rd is Pams way of getting what SHE wants. The MOU appears to be an appeasement with no legality behind it. It took away the right of the youth to have any say in what Pam Allen does or what IFAS does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Place sounds reasonable. In my conversations with him, he has stated that he wants all the possibi;lities and info before he makes a decision. WRE need to keep the pressure on him,but write/call/email the commisio0ners too!<br />
 I was told by a person in the know that dear Pam asked him if 10 acres would suffice and if he knew where there was 10 acres for sale. His answer was a resounding NO. If you want to discuss the Bayer property I AM ALL FOR THAT!<br />
Bet Miss Allen went away mad!<br />
Spending money on Stefani Rd is Pams way of getting what SHE wants. The MOU appears to be an appeasement with no legality behind it. It took away the right of the youth to have any say in what Pam Allen does or what IFAS does.</p>
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		<title>By: Gulf Coast</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2012/12/escambia-moving-forward-with-1-5-million-4-h-facility/comment-page-1#comment-178029</link>
		<dc:creator>Gulf Coast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I encourage each and everyone of you to show your displeasure by calling the county commissioners and telling them to hold that money up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I encourage each and everyone of you to show your displeasure by calling the county commissioners and telling them to hold that money up.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprised? Hardly, we all knew this was going to happen. It boils down to the mighty dollar and we would sell our own children for that green stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprised? Hardly, we all knew this was going to happen. It boils down to the mighty dollar and we would sell our own children for that green stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Molino lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molino lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its a crying shame that the 4-H children will miss out on all their activities until the higher ups make up their minds on how to spend the money they receive from the sale of their land to Navy Federal. The Bayer land on Crabtree Church in Molino would have been the piece of land I would have chosen. What&#039;s wrong, don&quot;t the big wigs making the decision on what land to buy, want to drive to Molino. 4-H is suppose to be about the children&#039;s projects. Stephani Road is residenal property. Not a place for the kids to enjoy nature and their surroundings. I think its a shame, myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its a crying shame that the 4-H children will miss out on all their activities until the higher ups make up their minds on how to spend the money they receive from the sale of their land to Navy Federal. The Bayer land on Crabtree Church in Molino would have been the piece of land I would have chosen. What&#8217;s wrong, don&#8221;t the big wigs making the decision on what land to buy, want to drive to Molino. 4-H is suppose to be about the children&#8217;s projects. Stephani Road is residenal property. Not a place for the kids to enjoy nature and their surroundings. I think its a shame, myself.</p>
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		<title>By: concerned. citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>concerned. citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with gulf coast. Its not the county commissioners its the leadership with the extension office. Every decision falls on the dean Nick place.  However the county commissioners should hold up the money that they are over which is the lost dollars that is the only leverage we have. We will end up with no land and a gold empire of a building if this money is not held up. They will use all the 1.5 plus  another million leaving not enough money to replace what we once had. I plead with the public  to stand up for our kids like you did for the library system. We need your support.  Don&#039;t be silent  email your commissioners and dr place</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with gulf coast. Its not the county commissioners its the leadership with the extension office. Every decision falls on the dean Nick place.  However the county commissioners should hold up the money that they are over which is the lost dollars that is the only leverage we have. We will end up with no land and a gold empire of a building if this money is not held up. They will use all the 1.5 plus  another million leaving not enough money to replace what we once had. I plead with the public  to stand up for our kids like you did for the library system. We need your support.  Don&#8217;t be silent  email your commissioners and dr place</p>
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		<title>By: 429SCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>429SCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Molino Jim. These Commissioners have no shame. They only seek to advance their own interest at the cost of others.

Time will wash away these commissioners and the world will be shed of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Molino Jim. These Commissioners have no shame. They only seek to advance their own interest at the cost of others.</p>
<p>Time will wash away these commissioners and the world will be shed of them.</p>
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		<title>By: gulfcoast</title>
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		<dc:creator>gulfcoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 03:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatthehay,
It wasnt the CC fault, in fact  they did support the resolution &quot;encouraging&quot; extension to find a suitable replacement.   Two brand new commissioners as well, hopefully even more supportive of what the kids did for this county.  

Show your displeasure with extension with an email to Nick Place, dont bother with Diem, Allen, or Vergot they want nothing to do with a new Langley Bell Property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatthehay,<br />
It wasnt the CC fault, in fact  they did support the resolution &#8220;encouraging&#8221; extension to find a suitable replacement.   Two brand new commissioners as well, hopefully even more supportive of what the kids did for this county.  </p>
<p>Show your displeasure with extension with an email to Nick Place, dont bother with Diem, Allen, or Vergot they want nothing to do with a new Langley Bell Property.</p>
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		<title>By: molino jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>molino jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 02:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the 4H members-- welcome to Civics 101. You have just learn how government 101 works. As of yesterday one of the members of the &quot;select committee&quot; was ask about what was being done about the 4H property, he stated there had been no decision made. I guess he&#039;s one of the CC&#039;s hand picked movers and shakers. My daughter was a member of 4H when she was young, my wife had to take her to meetings because of my job. She fussed about having to drive home at night and now the same thing is still going to happen. How many members of 4H live south of Cantonment  as compared to the north end. How much live stock can be kept on the property the CC want 4H to use? I know the other people living in the area are going to enjoy the smell and sounds of live stock next door to them. Also is this property the county already owns or has WD and the rest of the good old boys returned. THE COUNTY COMMISSION SHOULD BE ASHAME OF THIS AND OF OF THEIR SELVES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the 4H members&#8211; welcome to Civics 101. You have just learn how government 101 works. As of yesterday one of the members of the &#8220;select committee&#8221; was ask about what was being done about the 4H property, he stated there had been no decision made. I guess he&#8217;s one of the CC&#8217;s hand picked movers and shakers. My daughter was a member of 4H when she was young, my wife had to take her to meetings because of my job. She fussed about having to drive home at night and now the same thing is still going to happen. How many members of 4H live south of Cantonment  as compared to the north end. How much live stock can be kept on the property the CC want 4H to use? I know the other people living in the area are going to enjoy the smell and sounds of live stock next door to them. Also is this property the county already owns or has WD and the rest of the good old boys returned. THE COUNTY COMMISSION SHOULD BE ASHAME OF THIS AND OF OF THEIR SELVES.</p>
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