Truth isn’t your native tongue, is it?

You took a sentence which ended with a question mark, truncated it and replaced it with a period. In responding to the statement that we needed to give money to people on drugs or they would hurt us, I suggested we go whole hog and simply give them potentially deadly doses of dope and hope they killed themselves with it because we are cowed in fear.

http://www.northescambia.com/2012/09/dcf-drug-testing-public-assistance-recipients-makes-sense

“REGARDING:
“ “if you keep benefits from those who might be taking drugs, then they will likely get desperate and turn to stealing from your home or committing a violent crime/robbery,”

“We should give money to drug users because otherwise they will kill and rob us?

“Sounds good, in fact why don’t we just give them the most potent drugs made? Surely that would be safer for us and cheaper as well since it would cut out the pushers and their inflated prices.

“David for cowing in fear”

David responding to twister

Do I support breaking the law? No, I don’t.
Do I think everything should be illegal? No, I don’t.
Is breaking the law harmless? No, it isn’t.

“I can twist words too…Dave”

Yes, you can.

You point out the consequences of breaking the law but not the understanding that these consequences are not inherently harmful in the action outside the fact that they are breaking the law. I have always said the laws should be enforced if they exist. I question if laws should be changed.

Further, some people insist on being self-destructive. It would be better to let them destroy themselves if we could do it in such a way as to stop them from hurting others in the process. We are reminded of the experiment in which rats were taught to press a lever which would either give them cocaine or food. They starved themselves to death to get their highs. Some humans are like that and we waste our time trying to stop them. It would not be a waste of time to stop them from hurting others.

That’s a different drug, but the thought is there.

“ ““Daddy explained that kidnapping was illegal and he WAS taking her home” What the heck???”

Yes, my father refused to allow a hospital to keep my mother in the hospital until such time as he paid her bill.

David for untwisted truth

It’s good he is a non violent drug user, but that doesn’t mean he only hurts himself. You already pointed out that the consequences of his actions hurt his family members. They are hurt by shame, but loss of his companionship, by lack of support he might have been able to give them. Further, his purchases have financed violent groups who hurt others. In that way he has hurt others even if he never lifted a hand against his fellow man.
Many drug users hurt others by stealing what they worked to own. I shall assume he isn’t one of the many who do such things, but it definitely is a major contributor to all property crimes.

And you already pointed out, he hurts the taxpayer through the burden of caring for him while in prison. His actions have hurt us through the higher cost of law enforcement. It is all expensive. You could say, well they just shouldn’t arrest him or put him in prison until he gets violent, but our officials figure his actions have already led to violence and other crimes and that the only reasonable way to stop it on his part is to imprison him.”

Make up your mind Dave…do you support illegal drug use or not? Is illegal drug use harmless or not?

You should use your vast knowledge and ample amounts of free time between bus routes to try to clean up that cesspool you call home. Century is on the top of the headlines more times than not.
Try these: “Dave for words not actions…”
or “Dave for talking the talk but not walking the walk”

Of course he‘s a criminal and a national treasure, not unlike President Reagan who broke the law and the USSR.

“How can you claim that President Reagan is your hero when you stand against everything he stood for?”

Come now. President Reagan stood for freedom. He set the wheels in motion which brought down the USSR.

“Reagan declared a War on Drugs and now you want to allow “legal” drug use?”

We already have legal drug use. Asprin, Tylenol, many other drugs. The question is one of which drugs should be legal and which should be illegal.

October 14, 1982 President Ronald Reagan declared illicit drugs to be a threat to U.S. national security and he was right, as usual. One way to end illicit drugs is to….
Come on, guess. That’s right, make them legal unless they, themselves, kill or hurt people.

“ We waste so much time and money due to what you call a harmless drug.”

Actually, I haven’t said it was harmless, just that its use doesn’t seem to automatically lead to other drugs. But it’s good you admit you are wasting your time and money.

“ Seems like you would prefer a lawless society, with drug users running wild through our unprotected streets.”

Read carefully and see if I ever said I wanted a lawless society. In fact I believe unenforced laws are making it more lawless. They need to be enforced or revoked.

“Dave: A true liberal flip-flopper.”

Nope, I’ve been consistent. You’re just can’t seem to read what is actually written.

David for literacy

“I don’t elevate him to worship worthy status (like you)“

I don’t worship him, just recognize that he is a national treasure.

“he should be held accountable when he breaks the law.”

Of course. The question is should that law exist.

“I never said the dope caused his illness”

What you said was, “And if weed is so good for you why has good old Willie been in and out of hospitals so often.” The man was born in April 1933 and you think he would not get sick if he didn’t use dope.
Ask yourself if that’s reasonable.

“ you and other dopers portray it as a wonder drug…cure all.”

See there? You call me a doper even though I’ve never used dope. You also say I portray it as a wonder drug, which I haven’t done.

“I’ll put my tax records up against yours any day because I actually have a job and pay my full share of taxes with no government assistance. Can you say the same???”

Nope, I’m paid to drive a school bus so I’m on the public dole by your way of thinking. Further, I’m subject to drug testing at any time to prove I haven’t been using dope. Can you say the same?

“Shame on you Dave for advocating the use of drugs…shame on you indeed.”

If I did it, I should be ashamed. The problem is that I haven’t done it. I think many things should be legal which I believe people shouldn’t do — such as smoke marijuana. You seem to think people are required to do whatever’s legal.

David for responsible adults

You wonder wonder why a man around 79 might ever get sick unless the dope is to blame? I can’t think of another reason either. Does this mean everybody who gets sick is a stoner? That doesn’t make sense; I’ve never touched it and I’ve been sick.

It’s good you are concerned about his taxes. I can only assume your tax returns would stand up to the most distrustful audit. You will be thrilled to know he has paid all taxes the IRS finally decided he owed.

Is breaking the law good? No.
Should our national treasures do bad things? No.
Does the fact he has done bad things make his art bad? You seem to think so.

David for the red headed stranger