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	<title>Comments on: Feds Dismiss County Claims About Poarch Creek Land, Casinos</title>
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		<title>By: Truth seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The religious community has been silent on the issue. I&#039;d like to know what they think...and what about that county commish that&#039;s a deacon? It&#039;d he back peddling on his faith if he backin gambling in any form? Politickicans just out for their own hid folks.....their opinions change like the wind. Yet we all vote the lowest common denomentaor...I long ago gave up on gettin somebody in office here that&#039;d stand for somethin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The religious community has been silent on the issue. I&#8217;d like to know what they think&#8230;and what about that county commish that&#8217;s a deacon? It&#8217;d he back peddling on his faith if he backin gambling in any form? Politickicans just out for their own hid folks&#8230;..their opinions change like the wind. Yet we all vote the lowest common denomentaor&#8230;I long ago gave up on gettin somebody in office here that&#8217;d stand for somethin!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Brewton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Brewton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 06:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m Glad (proud)I live in Escambia County Alabama!!!

I&#039;m Glad I&#039;m a registerd Voter!!!

I think there&#039;s a lot more folks like myself!!!

I think there will be several new commissioners voted in on the next election that will do what is good for our county!!!

Chris for getting rid of the Greedy Commissioners!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Glad (proud)I live in Escambia County Alabama!!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Glad I&#8217;m a registerd Voter!!!</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s a lot more folks like myself!!!</p>
<p>I think there will be several new commissioners voted in on the next election that will do what is good for our county!!!</p>
<p>Chris for getting rid of the Greedy Commissioners!!!</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 00:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REGARDING:
“The (Poarch Band of Creek Indian’s) reservation, including the portion of the reservation that is situated within the geographical boundary of Escambia County, Alabama, is held in trust by the United States for the benefit of the band. As such, the band enjoys all rights and privileges associated with having its reservation held in trust by the United States under federal law.”

Using the IRS definition: 
“In general, a trust is a relationship in which one person holds title to property, subject to an obligation to keep or use the property for the benefit of another.”

Question: Who holds title to the land?
Answer: The United States of America.

Question: How much property tax does the band owe on federal property?
Answer: None, they don’t own the property.

Question: How much property tax does the Federal Government owe on federally owned property?
Answer: None, they are exempted by Article 4, Section 3, Clause 2 of the Constitution:  “The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting - - -  Property belonging to the United States - - - “

David thinking the matter is simple</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REGARDING:<br />
“The (Poarch Band of Creek Indian’s) reservation, including the portion of the reservation that is situated within the geographical boundary of Escambia County, Alabama, is held in trust by the United States for the benefit of the band. As such, the band enjoys all rights and privileges associated with having its reservation held in trust by the United States under federal law.”</p>
<p>Using the IRS definition:<br />
“In general, a trust is a relationship in which one person holds title to property, subject to an obligation to keep or use the property for the benefit of another.”</p>
<p>Question: Who holds title to the land?<br />
Answer: The United States of America.</p>
<p>Question: How much property tax does the band owe on federal property?<br />
Answer: None, they don’t own the property.</p>
<p>Question: How much property tax does the Federal Government owe on federally owned property?<br />
Answer: None, they are exempted by Article 4, Section 3, Clause 2 of the Constitution:  “The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting &#8211; - &#8211;  Property belonging to the United States &#8211; - &#8211; “</p>
<p>David thinking the matter is simple</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 20:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Centuries later the white man is still not happy. Still wanted to take what they can&#039;t  have and jsut as greedy and money grabbing as always.  Enough already.  
Pride and greed will be their down fall.

 To the Poarch Creek Tribe.  Good for you not being bullied by government officials.  This is still your land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Centuries later the white man is still not happy. Still wanted to take what they can&#8217;t  have and jsut as greedy and money grabbing as always.  Enough already.<br />
Pride and greed will be their down fall.</p>
<p> To the Poarch Creek Tribe.  Good for you not being bullied by government officials.  This is still your land.</p>
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		<title>By: Redman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 02:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dianne,if we stayed beat down as the creeks in the &quot;trail of tears&quot; would you then have mercy on us?Is it because the tribe did not stay beat down that you feel this way?Instead they have done the things to become a prosperous tribe and thus have been able to prosper their surroundings.Your &quot;post&quot; seems to have the hiss of jealousy.Because my grandmother was Creek Indian, she was only allowed a 6th grade education.Now the Tribe offers it&#039;s members multiple thousands of dollars to any member who wants to pursue a college degree.No we are no longer walking the&#039; trail of tears&#039;, but because of my ancestors efforts the &quot;trail of tears&quot; has been transformed to a &quot;super highway&quot;...as far as blue eyed and blonde haired Indian&#039;s....yes not all tribal members are full blooded, thus you have an array of eye and hair colors.Anyway I know this is your opinion and you are entitled to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dianne,if we stayed beat down as the creeks in the &#8220;trail of tears&#8221; would you then have mercy on us?Is it because the tribe did not stay beat down that you feel this way?Instead they have done the things to become a prosperous tribe and thus have been able to prosper their surroundings.Your &#8220;post&#8221; seems to have the hiss of jealousy.Because my grandmother was Creek Indian, she was only allowed a 6th grade education.Now the Tribe offers it&#8217;s members multiple thousands of dollars to any member who wants to pursue a college degree.No we are no longer walking the&#8217; trail of tears&#8217;, but because of my ancestors efforts the &#8220;trail of tears&#8221; has been transformed to a &#8220;super highway&#8221;&#8230;as far as blue eyed and blonde haired Indian&#8217;s&#8230;.yes not all tribal members are full blooded, thus you have an array of eye and hair colors.Anyway I know this is your opinion and you are entitled to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dianne Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do u people realize how much the tribe members get each year for birthdays and other things? They r not the Indians from the trail of tears---- if blood test were given wonder how many would really be real indians.........ever really seen a blue eyed ,blond indian? go to the creek indians and check them out......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do u people realize how much the tribe members get each year for birthdays and other things? They r not the Indians from the trail of tears&#8212;- if blood test were given wonder how many would really be real indians&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;ever really seen a blue eyed ,blond indian? go to the creek indians and check them out&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Think</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@blah, 
sure they receive from the fed&#039;s but you aren&#039;t thinking about when the white man came and took EVERYTHING from them are you?  they are owed everything they get!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@blah,<br />
sure they receive from the fed&#8217;s but you aren&#8217;t thinking about when the white man came and took EVERYTHING from them are you?  they are owed everything they get!</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 17:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REGARDING:
“I think all this welfare money needs to be cut out whether to the tribes or whoever..we can not afford it as a nation. I just don’t see how they can be so proud to live off welfare money, we were raised to work not sponge off gov’t for free.”

Not every government payment is welfare. Some is to military personnel. Some is to pay for utilities or rentals. Some is to repay for other services rendered.

In this particular case, our government has recognized that we stole the property from the assorted tribes (I almost called them Indian tribes but stopped myself in the nick of time.) and any efforts toward undoing the damage short of returning it in improved condition is a repayment, not a welfare payment.

The letter is interesting, as well, in that it makes it clear the property is not the property of the tribes but of the Federal Government and that the federal government doesn’t have to pay property taxes.

David for proper names</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REGARDING:<br />
“I think all this welfare money needs to be cut out whether to the tribes or whoever..we can not afford it as a nation. I just don’t see how they can be so proud to live off welfare money, we were raised to work not sponge off gov’t for free.”</p>
<p>Not every government payment is welfare. Some is to military personnel. Some is to pay for utilities or rentals. Some is to repay for other services rendered.</p>
<p>In this particular case, our government has recognized that we stole the property from the assorted tribes (I almost called them Indian tribes but stopped myself in the nick of time.) and any efforts toward undoing the damage short of returning it in improved condition is a repayment, not a welfare payment.</p>
<p>The letter is interesting, as well, in that it makes it clear the property is not the property of the tribes but of the Federal Government and that the federal government doesn’t have to pay property taxes.</p>
<p>David for proper names</p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
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		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*off not of</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*off not of</p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
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		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jesse

That is my point..I get so tired of hearing how grateful we should be to the PCI for all this money that they donate...what I would like to know is how much money they receive from the federal govt..they don&#039;t talk about that. People don&#039;t realize that they are just giving back our own money. With the nations economy the way it is, I think all this welfare money needs to be cut out whether to the tribes or whoever..we can not afford it as a nation. I just don&#039;t see how they can be so proud to live of welfare money, we were raised to work not sponge of gov&#039;t for free. Our nation is going broke and we keep letting people live for free ....crazy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jesse</p>
<p>That is my point..I get so tired of hearing how grateful we should be to the PCI for all this money that they donate&#8230;what I would like to know is how much money they receive from the federal govt..they don&#8217;t talk about that. People don&#8217;t realize that they are just giving back our own money. With the nations economy the way it is, I think all this welfare money needs to be cut out whether to the tribes or whoever..we can not afford it as a nation. I just don&#8217;t see how they can be so proud to live of welfare money, we were raised to work not sponge of gov&#8217;t for free. Our nation is going broke and we keep letting people live for free &#8230;.crazy</p>
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