Comments on: Smith Calls For Stand Your Ground Reform On Eve Of Scott Task Force http://www.northescambia.com/2012/05/smith-calls-for-stand-your-ground-reform-on-eve-of-scott-task-force Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Sat, 25 Apr 2026 02:06:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Lance Brown http://www.northescambia.com/2012/05/smith-calls-for-stand-your-ground-reform-on-eve-of-scott-task-force/comment-page-1#comment-126034 Lance Brown Wed, 02 May 2012 14:45:54 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=92900#comment-126034 Kathy, you stated there had been 9 instances where murder would have been charged had it not been for Stand your Ground. Please provide the links to where you found this information. It's not that I think you're making it up; I'd just like to see some documentation. Maybe you could include the case file numbers as well, that would eliminate the concern that your resources are biased. Kathy, you stated there had been 9 instances where murder would have been charged had it not been for Stand your Ground. Please provide the links to where you found this information. It’s not that I think you’re making it up; I’d just like to see some documentation. Maybe you could include the case file numbers as well, that would eliminate the concern that your resources are biased.

]]> By: 429SCJ http://www.northescambia.com/2012/05/smith-calls-for-stand-your-ground-reform-on-eve-of-scott-task-force/comment-page-1#comment-125994 429SCJ Wed, 02 May 2012 09:40:31 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=92900#comment-125994 Different elements, bad reactions. Different elements, bad reactions.

]]> By: Waste of time and resources http://www.northescambia.com/2012/05/smith-calls-for-stand-your-ground-reform-on-eve-of-scott-task-force/comment-page-1#comment-125928 Waste of time and resources Tue, 01 May 2012 17:43:52 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=92900#comment-125928 I wonder if Mr Smith paid for this panel of judges, lawyers, and law professors with his own money or did the state fund this. There are other areas of the state that needs the effort these politicians are putting into this. The only reason they are involved is because of the media behind it all. There are children and women missing or being abused and these politicians can do is make sure that their name is in the news. Mr Smith and Mr Scott, If you really want to make a difference then put this much effort to our schools and better use of the state's money. I wonder if Mr Smith paid for this panel of judges, lawyers, and law professors with his own money or did the state fund this. There are other areas of the state that needs the effort these politicians are putting into this. The only reason they are involved is because of the media behind it all.

There are children and women missing or being abused and these politicians can do is make sure that their name is in the news.

Mr Smith and Mr Scott, If you really want to make a difference then put this much effort to our schools and better use of the state’s money.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2012/05/smith-calls-for-stand-your-ground-reform-on-eve-of-scott-task-force/comment-page-1#comment-125924 David Huie Green Tue, 01 May 2012 17:20:57 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=92900#comment-125924 REGARDING: “9 different murders using the law were found to be murder but could not be tried because the law is so undefined.” Actually, if the law defines a killing as not murder, it CAN’T be found to be murder. Further without a trial, the killer CAN’T be legally a murderer. AND “Its not about protecting your home its about being out and about and “fearing” being hurt when there is no reason too.“ People shouldn’t be out and about or they shouldn’t mind being hurt? You ARE right that it isn’t about protecting your home, it doesn’t require a person stay at home to be safe. AS WELL AS “One of the 10 Commandments is not to Kill. Try reading the Bible for consent.” Yet Jesus didn’t condemn soldiers even though they kill in the course of their duties. God didn’t condemn David for killing Goliath (although He wasn’t happy about Uriah). In fact, He commanded the killing of everybody in certain cities and personally wiped out a couple of cities and the first born of Egypt, as well as calling for killing criminals for certain crimes. Therefore, it certainly LOOKS like He gave consent to kill in some instances. Most theologians make the distinction of the forbidden killing as that of murder rather than legally defined killing in self defense or service to our country. Not that it matters since we aren’t under a theocracy. David contemplating contradictions REGARDING:
“9 different murders using the law were found to be murder but could not be tried because the law is so undefined.”

Actually, if the law defines a killing as not murder, it CAN’T be found to be murder. Further without a trial, the killer CAN’T be legally a murderer.

AND
“Its not about protecting your home its about being out and about and “fearing” being hurt when there is no reason too.“

People shouldn’t be out and about or they shouldn’t mind being hurt? You ARE right that it isn’t about protecting your home, it doesn’t require a person stay at home to be safe.

AS WELL AS
“One of the 10 Commandments is not to Kill. Try reading the Bible for consent.”

Yet Jesus didn’t condemn soldiers even though they kill in the course of their duties. God didn’t condemn David for killing Goliath (although He wasn’t happy about Uriah). In fact, He commanded the killing of everybody in certain cities and personally wiped out a couple of cities and the first born of Egypt, as well as calling for killing criminals for certain crimes. Therefore, it certainly LOOKS like He gave consent to kill in some instances.

Most theologians make the distinction of the forbidden killing as that of murder rather than legally defined killing in self defense or service to our country. Not that it matters since we aren’t under a theocracy.

David contemplating contradictions

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2012/05/smith-calls-for-stand-your-ground-reform-on-eve-of-scott-task-force/comment-page-1#comment-125922 David Huie Green Tue, 01 May 2012 17:07:31 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=92900#comment-125922 COGITATING UPON: " “We took an adult look at ’stand your ground,’ and we had adult discussions – not political,” Smith said Monday" This means he thinks political discussions are never adult discussions, right? Not griping, of course, since I never gripe, just considering how he used his words to paint any possible opposition to his findings. Which also brings up "Consensus findings included eliminating the presumption of reasonable fear and clarifying the role of provocation in the law’s application." If you eliminate the presumption that citizens acted reasonably, you are making the assumption that their actions were unreasonable. In other words, a presumption of guilt. Interesting that his panel would reach consensus on presuming people guilty. Of course, I was told recently that “consensus” really means, "I've decided what we'll do and the rest of you will pretend to agree." David in a world filled with assumptions and pretences COGITATING UPON:
” “We took an adult look at ’stand your ground,’ and we had adult discussions – not political,” Smith said Monday”

This means he thinks political discussions are never adult discussions, right?

Not griping, of course, since I never gripe, just considering how he used his words to paint any possible opposition to his findings.

Which also brings up “Consensus findings included eliminating the presumption of reasonable fear and clarifying the role of provocation in the law’s application.”

If you eliminate the presumption that citizens acted reasonably, you are making the assumption that their actions were unreasonable. In other words, a presumption of guilt. Interesting that his panel would reach consensus on presuming people guilty.

Of course, I was told recently that “consensus” really means, “I’ve decided what we’ll do and the rest of you will pretend to agree.”

David in a world filled with assumptions and pretences

]]> By: Walnut Hill Roy http://www.northescambia.com/2012/05/smith-calls-for-stand-your-ground-reform-on-eve-of-scott-task-force/comment-page-1#comment-125878 Walnut Hill Roy Tue, 01 May 2012 12:54:08 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=92900#comment-125878 Right, wrong or indifferent; I would rather be the killer rather than the killed when facing danger. If they change the law, I hope that the part about detaining the individual using the law is optional rather than mandatory; why should someone who has just (properly) defended his life be put into jail? Right, wrong or indifferent; I would rather be the killer rather than the killed when facing danger.

If they change the law, I hope that the part about detaining the individual using the law is optional rather than mandatory; why should someone who has just (properly) defended his life be put into jail?

]]> By: Kathy http://www.northescambia.com/2012/05/smith-calls-for-stand-your-ground-reform-on-eve-of-scott-task-force/comment-page-1#comment-125877 Kathy Tue, 01 May 2012 12:40:16 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=92900#comment-125877 Twist the truth but it is still truth, its about the Zimmermans and other who have used the law to protect themselves from prosecution when there was no need to be where they were, doing what they were doing or use the gun, 9 different murders using the law were found to be murder but could not be tried because the law is so undefined. Its not about protecting your home its about being out and about and "fearing" being hurt when there is no reason too. One of the 10 Commandments is not to Kill. Try reading the Bible for consent. Twist the truth but it is still truth, its about the Zimmermans and other who have used the law to protect themselves from prosecution when there was no need to be where they were, doing what they were doing or use the gun, 9 different murders using the law were found to be murder but could not be tried because the law is so undefined. Its not about protecting your home its about being out and about and “fearing” being hurt when there is no reason too. One of the 10 Commandments is not to Kill. Try reading the Bible for consent.

]]> By: Jane http://www.northescambia.com/2012/05/smith-calls-for-stand-your-ground-reform-on-eve-of-scott-task-force/comment-page-1#comment-125870 Jane Tue, 01 May 2012 12:10:47 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=92900#comment-125870 Start emailing your legislators!! Don't let them make this law into a useless law! The time to stand up for your right to protect yourself on your property and in your home is NOW!!!! Start emailing your legislators!! Don’t let them make this law into a useless law! The time to stand up for your right to protect yourself on your property and in your home is NOW!!!!

]]> By: Jane http://www.northescambia.com/2012/05/smith-calls-for-stand-your-ground-reform-on-eve-of-scott-task-force/comment-page-1#comment-125868 Jane Tue, 01 May 2012 11:56:45 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=92900#comment-125868 So if someone breaks into my home I am the bad guy? I get put in jail? That is WRONG!!!!!! So if someone breaks into my home I am the bad guy? I get put in jail? That is WRONG!!!!!!

]]> By: Marv http://www.northescambia.com/2012/05/smith-calls-for-stand-your-ground-reform-on-eve-of-scott-task-force/comment-page-1#comment-125860 Marv Tue, 01 May 2012 11:02:27 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=92900#comment-125860 Some would like to pull the teeth from this law and make it worthless for the protection of law abiding citizens. Watch the circus continue regarding this law, watch while certain people try to take away a basic right that every person has,(unless you are an unborn child), the right to life.......the criminal also has the right to life, he just puts it at risk by commiting a forceable felony against an armed law abiding citizen. Let the people who will try to fight this ability for you to protect yourself how you feel. If you stand by quietly and don't speak out, you may lose this right. Some would like to pull the teeth from this law and make it worthless for the protection of law abiding citizens. Watch the circus continue regarding this law, watch while certain people try to take away a basic right that every person has,(unless you are an unborn child), the right to life…….the criminal also has the right to life, he just puts it at risk by commiting a forceable felony against an armed law abiding citizen. Let the people who will try to fight this ability for you to protect yourself how you feel. If you stand by quietly and don’t speak out, you may lose this right.

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