Comments on: Weapons Investigation Turned Over To Federal ATF; Guns Seized

By: someguy

someguy — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 05:36:52 +0000

“They were the ones who claimed to be taking an arsenal to a school”

Perhaps you should re-read the articles on this. When read in their entirety, William’s words on this subject never once say these guns were headed TO school. If the men had told the officers that they had intended to take the weapons into school grounds you can rest assured we would have seen a completely different story than we are seeing today and there would not have been one single person defending these men.

Not trying to be mean here, I am merely trying to educate. You may have read the words posted by myself and others in the comments section, but you have completely failed to comprehend the ideas behind them. The one thing that stands out, no matter which side of the discussion anyone has taken is that the men’s story is fishy. That fact was never in dispute, especially when confirmed by the superintendent that these men were, in fact, not employed by the school. No-one here is defending their STORY; we are defending the men’s rights. You know, the whole “innocent until proven guilty” thing?

Another question: why is it that 4 weapons between 2 people and hundreds of rounds of ammunition are “suspicious?” I, along with many many many more people in this area, have more than 4 guns and many hundreds of rounds of ammunition. (Remember what someone else said: ammunition is standard in boxes of 50, so it only takes 4 boxes to be considered “hundreds” of rounds.) Does that make us suspicious as well?

By: Willis

Willis — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 04:28:12 +0000

I agree that there was or is something very strange or misleading about the situation as a whole. I’m willing to even step out and stereotype these guys. Warrington Middle is predominantly black, with FCAT testing going on this week, the claim of tutoring students, the guys stopped being black, the situation in Stanford, Chicago politicians, and etc I would assume its much bigger than appears to be. It could be a bulling scheme, a civil rights scheme, or even some type or undercover sting or investigation by anyone of the too many federal agencies.

By: Ashley

Ashley — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 04:22:16 +0000

I am shocked at everyone who seems to defend these guys. I understand everyone has the right to bear arms, but not to a school. They were the ones who claimed to be taking an arsenal to a school (which is a crime) and lied to the cops about their purpose. They created this situation by lying to the cops and having a suspicious amount of weapons in their vehicle. If they were taking these guns to a school, no matter what their intentions were, they were confessing to a crime. If I tell a cop I am going to murder someone later, should they let me walk away?? I haven’t done anything so why would they arrest me? I have children in the schools that these cops are protecting and I back them 1000%. I am sorry that these guys were inconvenienced but they should not have entered our school district with an arsenal, claiming that they were contracted by the school and heading that way. You cannot take chances with our children!! …No matter who gets inconvenienced. Thank you ECSO and everyone else who made the decision to not sit on this!

By: just my words

just my words — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 03:31:54 +0000

we may never know what these guys from new jersey was up to, but one thing can be said if they were planning something this morning it didn’t take place. good job on our law enforcement,

By: MQ

MQ — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 02:15:57 +0000

I do not even live in FL/AL and when I read the first story it made me cringe, and the second one makes me wonder what is going on – why would they name the school one day, and then be in the vicinity the next. Something is very wrong even if the guns are very legal. Please law enforcement keep our teachers and students safe.

By: Willis

Willis — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:52:50 +0000

Truth is this is not even a story worth reporting. This is a prime example of the media reporting just enough information to cause one to speculate or assume the worst. A couple hundred rounds of ammunition is nothing, most handgun ammo is sold by 50 rounds a box. When ordering ammunition from a supplier there are huge price breaks when ordering thousands of rounds. I currently have four firearms in my truck and hundreds of rounds of ammunition. I have my CCW, 2 handguns that I bought from two co-workers this week, and my Ruger 10/22 that my daughter was just shooting . .22 ammunition is sold at most hardware stores, Wat-Mart, and other retailers in 500 round boxes. Articles like this one causes panic and false impressions about the individuals involved. Some of you so called americans have suggested these guys rights be violated because of a very poorly article. The same thing just took place in Stanford, Florida, just the information to cause an uproar was reported.

By: Pineville PI

Pineville PI — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:34:27 +0000

How can you take legal weapons from people and release them and let them drive off. No crime committed. LAW ENFORCEMENT IS A JOKE.

By: nudo

nudo — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:33:24 +0000

Hope William follows this story….I bet next week theres a lawsuit filed!

By: molino jim

molino jim — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:03:58 +0000

For those so upset about these people being released yesterday — there did not appear to be enough PC to hold them or arrest them from what has been reported. Could it be today they were close enough to a school to be able to impound the guns? LEO have to work within the law even if others do not. They did not have the cash from yesterday today—hope they left it in a hotel room and the house keeper will be able to have a great time.

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:01:21 +0000

Without specific crimes, the word lynch keeps coming to mind. Yes, their activity is suspicious and worth watching carefully but the idea that they should be jailed simply because we are suspicious and they didn’t get our permission is unseemly.

LYNCH: murder for supposed crime: to seize somebody believed to have committed a crime and put him or her to death immediately and without trial, usually by hanging

In this case, there isn’t even a supposed crime yet. True, you don’t want to wait until they’ve shot up the fine school but you really don’t want a government which says, “Because you have the equipment to commit rape, we’re going to arrest you under the suspicion of intent.”

David for leaving men with their equipment
until intent to commit crimes is indicated