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	<title>Comments on: Group Offers Ideas For Langley Bell 4-H Center Sale, Purchase Of Molino Bayer Property</title>
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		<title>By: Well</title>
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		<dc:creator>Well</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 02:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I belive the kids vote monday?
Good luck to them on having a place to continue their learning activities whether at the current location or a comparable new one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I belive the kids vote monday?<br />
Good luck to them on having a place to continue their learning activities whether at the current location or a comparable new one.</p>
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		<title>By: camdenrenee</title>
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		<dc:creator>camdenrenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bayer Crop Science Facility is behind our 21acres and would be the perfect place for the 4H club! Oh and Jane, yes there are two bald eagles around the house, but I think they won&#039;t mind. The kids I am sure would like watching them too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bayer Crop Science Facility is behind our 21acres and would be the perfect place for the 4H club! Oh and Jane, yes there are two bald eagles around the house, but I think they won&#8217;t mind. The kids I am sure would like watching them too!</p>
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		<title>By: You Hypocrites Amaze Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>You Hypocrites Amaze Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 04:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing how folks with little to know knowledge form an opinion and spew disapproval over something that is being negotiated so that everyone is a winner. Besides, how many of you have set foot on 4H land in hmmm let&#039;s say the last 10 years?  exactly.

NFCU offers $500k more than the appraised value so that they can provide hundreds and hundreds of well paying jobs and the extra boost to our local economy.  

The 4H has the opportunity to relocate to a piece of property  that allows more room and opportunity to grow.  Also, they will have a large sum of money left over for additions or operating expenses.

However, some of you want to sit around and throw rocks and share conspiracy theories with each other.  Thanks goodness everyone (outside of your circle anyways) sees how ignorant and naive your rants are and pays them no mind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing how folks with little to know knowledge form an opinion and spew disapproval over something that is being negotiated so that everyone is a winner. Besides, how many of you have set foot on 4H land in hmmm let&#8217;s say the last 10 years?  exactly.</p>
<p>NFCU offers $500k more than the appraised value so that they can provide hundreds and hundreds of well paying jobs and the extra boost to our local economy.  </p>
<p>The 4H has the opportunity to relocate to a piece of property  that allows more room and opportunity to grow.  Also, they will have a large sum of money left over for additions or operating expenses.</p>
<p>However, some of you want to sit around and throw rocks and share conspiracy theories with each other.  Thanks goodness everyone (outside of your circle anyways) sees how ignorant and naive your rants are and pays them no mind!</p>
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		<title>By: the facts</title>
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		<dc:creator>the facts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 23:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get the facts!

I love to see the people comment on an article that have not been keeping up with this story. 

1. The property was valued at $3.1 million and NFCU offered $500,000 more than it was appraised. Sounds less like a &quot;steal&#039; and more like a reasonable offer.

2. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure that city sewer doesn&#039;t stretch out that far in the county. Large businesses can&#039;t develop property on septic service. Unless we all pay extra taxes for ECUA to add to their existing services, then I am pretty sure that NFCU will not be considering to develop the Bayer property for themselves.

3. Currently, 4H in this county operates solely on the interest from its current funds. The Bayer property is estimated at least $1.5 million less than the offer on the table. This will provide considerably more finances for which 4H can operate.

4. NFCU is a not-for-profit organization. Translation, extra money is distributed to employees=local economic boost.

5. LBC is currently on 240 acres with some 80+ acres deemed as wetlands. I am not sure if any of the Bayer property is also wetlands, but it seems obvious that more property would be available for 4H to use.

I don&#039;t know about all of the other entities involved with the finances, but I sure hope that 4H gets the full value of what is rightfully theirs. This deal should not happen unless everyone wins. Twenty-three acres at the extension office is a win for everyone except 4H. The Bayer property sounds like a win for everyone involved, but still people hesitate to support?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get the facts!</p>
<p>I love to see the people comment on an article that have not been keeping up with this story. </p>
<p>1. The property was valued at $3.1 million and NFCU offered $500,000 more than it was appraised. Sounds less like a &#8220;steal&#8217; and more like a reasonable offer.</p>
<p>2. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure that city sewer doesn&#8217;t stretch out that far in the county. Large businesses can&#8217;t develop property on septic service. Unless we all pay extra taxes for ECUA to add to their existing services, then I am pretty sure that NFCU will not be considering to develop the Bayer property for themselves.</p>
<p>3. Currently, 4H in this county operates solely on the interest from its current funds. The Bayer property is estimated at least $1.5 million less than the offer on the table. This will provide considerably more finances for which 4H can operate.</p>
<p>4. NFCU is a not-for-profit organization. Translation, extra money is distributed to employees=local economic boost.</p>
<p>5. LBC is currently on 240 acres with some 80+ acres deemed as wetlands. I am not sure if any of the Bayer property is also wetlands, but it seems obvious that more property would be available for 4H to use.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about all of the other entities involved with the finances, but I sure hope that 4H gets the full value of what is rightfully theirs. This deal should not happen unless everyone wins. Twenty-three acres at the extension office is a win for everyone except 4H. The Bayer property sounds like a win for everyone involved, but still people hesitate to support?</p>
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		<title>By: dantheorthoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>dantheorthoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 22:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks cd and molino jim for your kind response.  Some folks need to grow up and quit drinking the koolaid and realize the beaurocrats are in it for themselves. If the deal is 3.6 mil now, what is it really worth?, and who is getting the payback when it is shoved through?! The Bayer site may indeed be all that it is said, as we all know BP and other large corporations are looking out for our best interests here in the south. Tabling the matter for a while was a good move so that other options could be evaluated. Who knows? Maybe NFCU would build a new complex for 4H and use it as a tax write off . When the sale is final there will be no going back . Get the full value for the property now and ask for what would seem improbable, otherwise when the deal is done, everyone will realize, what a sham, that has taken place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks cd and molino jim for your kind response.  Some folks need to grow up and quit drinking the koolaid and realize the beaurocrats are in it for themselves. If the deal is 3.6 mil now, what is it really worth?, and who is getting the payback when it is shoved through?! The Bayer site may indeed be all that it is said, as we all know BP and other large corporations are looking out for our best interests here in the south. Tabling the matter for a while was a good move so that other options could be evaluated. Who knows? Maybe NFCU would build a new complex for 4H and use it as a tax write off . When the sale is final there will be no going back . Get the full value for the property now and ask for what would seem improbable, otherwise when the deal is done, everyone will realize, what a sham, that has taken place!</p>
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		<title>By: vannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>vannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 21:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>429SCJ - Commas are not your friend, don&#039;t use them so much.  

I think this is a good proposal.  NFCU has very good paying jobs for this area as well as excellent benefits for employees.  I am not saying that their want to purchase the property is justified by those things, but 4H needs somewhere more rural that it can grow and really begin to blossom in this area.  I was in 4H all through middle and high school but there wasn&#039;t much in the Molino area to keep our interests really rooted to 4H.  I think that this facility, if proven to be safe, would be wonderful for the 4H community.  Since it is a turn key operation, there would not be immense amounts of work to be done to get another facility ready to use.  The 250 acres would much more suitable for all the offices, gardeners, and kids to grow and honestly begin to serve the community better.  The Stefani Rd property is not equivalent to what they have now, let alone what the Bayer property has to offer.  I think that the woman who wants to limit the 4H group to Stefani Rd wants to have ultimate control over what the children do and who gets access to the property and that is not fair or right.  Mr. Bell left the Langley Bell property to the 4H association in the good faith that they would utilize and enjoy the property to its fullest potential.  I believe that the 4H center has served a wonderful purpose, but it is time to let Pensacola grow a little and allow the economy here to change and allow the youth of 4H to have a chance to serve the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>429SCJ &#8211; Commas are not your friend, don&#8217;t use them so much.  </p>
<p>I think this is a good proposal.  NFCU has very good paying jobs for this area as well as excellent benefits for employees.  I am not saying that their want to purchase the property is justified by those things, but 4H needs somewhere more rural that it can grow and really begin to blossom in this area.  I was in 4H all through middle and high school but there wasn&#8217;t much in the Molino area to keep our interests really rooted to 4H.  I think that this facility, if proven to be safe, would be wonderful for the 4H community.  Since it is a turn key operation, there would not be immense amounts of work to be done to get another facility ready to use.  The 250 acres would much more suitable for all the offices, gardeners, and kids to grow and honestly begin to serve the community better.  The Stefani Rd property is not equivalent to what they have now, let alone what the Bayer property has to offer.  I think that the woman who wants to limit the 4H group to Stefani Rd wants to have ultimate control over what the children do and who gets access to the property and that is not fair or right.  Mr. Bell left the Langley Bell property to the 4H association in the good faith that they would utilize and enjoy the property to its fullest potential.  I believe that the 4H center has served a wonderful purpose, but it is time to let Pensacola grow a little and allow the economy here to change and allow the youth of 4H to have a chance to serve the community.</p>
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		<title>By: 429SCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>429SCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are principles involved here, don&#039;t be so desperate that you let these people
dictate to you. You are above that, have self respect.

When you go with the flow, caving into everything that comes down the pike, you
will soon discover that it has become a lifestyle.

Hold on to that wich is yours, honor the trust. When this beautiful place is gone, you will never get it back. Tell NFCU to go look at the Bayer property.

It will take a real idiot, after observing this, to leave anything to the public, in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are principles involved here, don&#8217;t be so desperate that you let these people<br />
dictate to you. You are above that, have self respect.</p>
<p>When you go with the flow, caving into everything that comes down the pike, you<br />
will soon discover that it has become a lifestyle.</p>
<p>Hold on to that wich is yours, honor the trust. When this beautiful place is gone, you will never get it back. Tell NFCU to go look at the Bayer property.</p>
<p>It will take a real idiot, after observing this, to leave anything to the public, in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitney Fike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whitney Fike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Jeeperman - 

Here is a link to the Frequently Asked Questions about Florida 4-H. There you will find answers to how the Extension Office, IFAS and the University of Florida comes into play with the 4-H program.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://florida4h.org/about/faq.shtml&quot; _target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://florida4h.org/about/faq.shtml&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Jeeperman &#8211; </p>
<p>Here is a link to the Frequently Asked Questions about Florida 4-H. There you will find answers to how the Extension Office, IFAS and the University of Florida comes into play with the 4-H program.</p>
<p><a href="http://florida4h.org/about/faq.shtml" _target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://florida4h.org/about/faq.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: CD</title>
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		<dc:creator>CD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the land is not polluted from Bayer&#039;s operations and can be obtained with a clear, undisputable title it sounds like a win-win situation. Much better than the pittance of land offered by our esteemed commissioners and NFCU. Obviously, Navy Federal is more concerned about it&#039;s own operations than it is a bunch of kids or jobs in a community. Don&#039;t be fooled by the sweet comments offered by some &quot;officials&quot;. Yes they will provide much needed jobs here in our county but as someone previously stated &quot;NF Headquarters will remain in Virginia, only the bulk of the business operations will move here&quot;. Sad that all those people in Virginia with those good paying jobs in the &quot;business operations&quot; will be loosing their jobs (said with tongue-in-cheek). It would be wonderful if the Molino land is not just an abandoned maintenance nightmare as one writher put it....and that should be of primary concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the land is not polluted from Bayer&#8217;s operations and can be obtained with a clear, undisputable title it sounds like a win-win situation. Much better than the pittance of land offered by our esteemed commissioners and NFCU. Obviously, Navy Federal is more concerned about it&#8217;s own operations than it is a bunch of kids or jobs in a community. Don&#8217;t be fooled by the sweet comments offered by some &#8220;officials&#8221;. Yes they will provide much needed jobs here in our county but as someone previously stated &#8220;NF Headquarters will remain in Virginia, only the bulk of the business operations will move here&#8221;. Sad that all those people in Virginia with those good paying jobs in the &#8220;business operations&#8221; will be loosing their jobs (said with tongue-in-cheek). It would be wonderful if the Molino land is not just an abandoned maintenance nightmare as one writher put it&#8230;.and that should be of primary concern.</p>
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		<title>By: InTheKnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>InTheKnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to know why George states:  &quot;There will be very few (if any) local jobs created by this. Some realtor commissions perhaps.&quot;

Where are you getting this information?  Do you think that every Navy Federal employee in Virginia is going to MOVE to Pensacola?  One of the reasons Navy Federal wants to move the majority of their operations here is because there are SO MANY of these types of jobs in Virginia, that all pay great wages.  It&#039;s tough to recruit there!

Sure, you will have SOME people relocate, but the vast majority will find a similiar position in the Virginia area, and their life will go on.

Meanwhile, here in Pensacola, we will have more good paying jobs with excellent benefits available to the polulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to know why George states:  &#8220;There will be very few (if any) local jobs created by this. Some realtor commissions perhaps.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where are you getting this information?  Do you think that every Navy Federal employee in Virginia is going to MOVE to Pensacola?  One of the reasons Navy Federal wants to move the majority of their operations here is because there are SO MANY of these types of jobs in Virginia, that all pay great wages.  It&#8217;s tough to recruit there!</p>
<p>Sure, you will have SOME people relocate, but the vast majority will find a similiar position in the Virginia area, and their life will go on.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, here in Pensacola, we will have more good paying jobs with excellent benefits available to the polulation.</p>
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