Comments on: Customer Stabs Nine Mile Road Restaurant Owner

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 03:06:54 +0000

REGARDING:
“A mental illness is no excuse if the individual is expected to be taking medication and care of him/herself. Obviously (given that he had a mental illness) doctors saw him still fit for society, therefore he must abide by society’s rules.”

Actually, nothing here establishes him as having any mental illness or being on any medication. Some folks may have simply reasoned it out:

GIVEN: There are no bad boys.
GIVEN: He did a bad thing.
CONCLUSION: If he did a bad thing and there are no bad boys, he must have a mental illness which stops him from distinguishing right from wrong.

If you accept the first statement as true and consider a 19 year old still a boy or simply that there ARE no bad people, you would reach the conclusion. If you reject the concept that bad boys don’t exist, he doesn’t have to be crazy to do bad things.

He looks sane and thoughtful — actions notwithstanding, but who am I to judge?

David suspecting the insanity defense won’t fly
nor will he soon get any more Chinese food

By: Realist

Realist — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:15:18 +0000

Regarding the corporal punishment comment, I am unaware of why correlation is so readily deemed causation. Because someone was spanked as a child, does not make them destined for a life of crime. In fact, if you actually researched it, you’d find that children spanked (child abuse aside) actually go on to live much more successful, happy lives. I knew this guy in middle school. From what I remember of him, he was a bit of the rebellious type you could say back then. Maybe, in fact, he should have been spanked more? And as far as the comment on judgement… Many times judgement cannot be properly assessed from a simple reporting. However, when someone leaves a store without paying, then stabs someone in the neck for confronting them, there is no judgement necessary. He was wrong, entirely. A mental illness is no excuse if the individual is expected to be taking medication and care of him/herself. Obviously (given that he had a mental illness) doctors saw him still fit for society, therefore he must abide by society’s rules. Ignorance of law does not exempt one from punishment if the law is broken.

By: Rob D Blind

Rob D Blind — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 05:05:48 +0000

So that was one short “time out” he got. What we have here is a failure to communicate. If the owner would have had a high voltage tazer, then the theif would have got a lesson. Painful lessons will be remembered. Actions that cause pain are rarely repeated. I vote for the using the cane like Singapore. I have not heard the American kid painted anymore cars. That that does not kill us makes us stronger and smarter. Even if he gets a 3 year time out, so what ! How much $$ does that cost us? Some one suggested mental illness and not taking meds., well one good cane session and I bet he would not forget to take his meds again. Some want you to think mental illness so they can just do stupid things.
He could have killed the owner with a knife to the neck.

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:25:26 +0000

REGARDING:
“None of us were there and should not be so quick to judge. He could have a mental illness and not be on his meds or something.”

True. Or maybe the man needed stabbing for complaining at him.

He should be released immediately and his knife returned.

David for ignoring bloody evidence

By: jasmine

jasmine — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 23:59:18 +0000

@ shameonyou :

If he were to have a mental illness I would think that he would have had SOME form of supervision . And I’m sure it would be different had we been there , but some of these people aren’t exactly judging . They are using the information they have learned to make inferences on the situtation . As for the rest that are outraged by the conviction : I agree . Seriously ? Now everybody has a reason to get a concealed weapon license . If the cops aren’t going to protect us , then we are going to have to protect ourselves . What is wrong with this picture ?! A lot of things …

By: Big D

Big D — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 23:10:45 +0000

Sounds more like a thief than a customer….

By: shameonyou

shameonyou — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 22:52:35 +0000

I cannot believe all of these comments on here. Have none of you had a situation where from the outside it looked sooo much different than had you been there? None of us were there and should not be so quick to judge. He could have a mental illness and not be on his meds or something.

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 19:24:35 +0000

REGARDING:
“Saw a prison documentary recently; they did a survey of prisoners at numerous prisons and discovered that over 90% of the prisoners had been disciplined using corporal punishment (spanked, hit, whooped, beat, etc) as children.”

That’s always been an interesting concept, but it raises a few questions.

How many people who have never gone to prison have been spanked or even beaten as children?
If it’s the same percent, does it mean anything?
What does it mean when we are told ten percent of criminals were never punished as children?
Do we really believe it?

It’s like when Sigmund Freud found out that his patients had problems as youth and decided that was the cause. Years later a study discovered pretty much everybody had some problems as youth. It may even be part of growing up.

Were they punished more than others?
If so, was it because their parents were more hateful people or because they refused to change their ways?
Was the punishment worse or particularly different from that received by children who didn’t turn to lives of crime later?

I’m reminded of people saying all our problems are caused by our high incarceration rate, rather than our high incarceration rate is caused by excessive criminal activity.

David wishing criminals weren’t

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 19:13:26 +0000

REGARDING:
“Seems to me the bail should have been $16,950.00. More poetic.”

We agree-you and I on this point, although perhaps $169500 would be good too.

I believe in the 8th amendment, but some actions are really irritating.

David for better people

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 19:09:34 +0000

I see where he pled nolo two months ago PETIT FROM MERCHANT 2ND CONVICTION.

Wild speculation makes me wonder if someone had taught him businessmen were thieves and it was okay to steal back from them Or maybe he just enjoys it, this being — at a minimum — his third theft.

Good thing he didn’t kill the poor fellow working and trying to care for his family while running a business employing many people and serving hundreds.

David disliking thieves and murderers