Comments on: Occupy Pensacola Protester Now Occupies Jail Cell http://www.northescambia.com/2011/11/occupy-pcola-protest-busted Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Fri, 03 Apr 2026 18:45:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2011/11/occupy-pcola-protest-busted/comment-page-1#comment-107981 David Huie Green Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:18:02 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=75186#comment-107981 REGARDING: “Jeff’s actions do not represent Occupy Pensacola, - - - Many feel the need to join the circus of the media and make fun of this young man and associate him with Occupy in a way to discredit the movement - - - Unfortunately for Jeff, his actions have automatically removed him from Occupy. Theft is not tolerated. But, thanks to the press and the shallow circus mentality of the public, he has branded Occupy Pensacola with his actions.“ So the idea of taking over or away what currently belongs to others is not in the minds of members of Occupy? as they set up tents in public and private parks and declare they aren’t going to leave until ___________ is accomplished? Thereby pushing out other users and scaring some drivers. Please consider that his actions are the natural outgrowth of what the movement seems to be pushing. It includes the concept that some segment of society owes more than an equal share to the rest of society. That can only be "corrected" by taking it away from the haves as he seems to have done on a smaller scale. There’s also the question of whether or not Occupy has anyone with the decision making and enforcement power to remove anyone -- no matter how crazy or avaricious -- from their ranks. Everything I’ve seen or heard from its members leads me to believe it doesn’t. It’s interesting that you consider the public to be shallow minded. That sounds elitist and may not be a good way to win friends and influence people. David considering circuses and Better-than-yous REGARDING:
“Jeff’s actions do not represent Occupy Pensacola, – - – Many feel the need to join the circus of the media and make fun of this young man and associate him with Occupy in a way to discredit the movement – - – Unfortunately for Jeff, his actions have automatically removed him from Occupy. Theft is not tolerated. But, thanks to the press and the shallow circus mentality of the public, he has branded Occupy Pensacola with his actions.“

So the idea of taking over or away what currently belongs to others is not in the minds of members of Occupy? as they set up tents in public and private parks and declare they aren’t going to leave until ___________ is accomplished? Thereby pushing out other users and scaring some drivers.

Please consider that his actions are the natural outgrowth of what the movement seems to be pushing. It includes the concept that some segment of society owes more than an equal share to the rest of society. That can only be “corrected” by taking it away from the haves as he seems to have done on a smaller scale.

There’s also the question of whether or not Occupy has anyone with the decision making and enforcement power to remove anyone — no matter how crazy or avaricious — from their ranks. Everything I’ve seen or heard from its members leads me to believe it doesn’t.

It’s interesting that you consider the public to be shallow minded. That sounds elitist and may not be a good way to win friends and influence people.

David considering circuses
and Better-than-yous

]]> By: Bill Paul http://www.northescambia.com/2011/11/occupy-pcola-protest-busted/comment-page-1#comment-107910 Bill Paul Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:04:12 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=75186#comment-107910 I am an Occupy Pensacola supporter. I have come to know Jeff through Occupy. He is a Libertarian and Ron Paul supporter, of which there are many in the Occupy movement. I am not one of them, but I want to make it clear, that Jeff's actions do not represent Occupy Pensacola, or the Libertarians of OP. Let me say first off, there is no excuse at all for what Jeff did. None. What I want to say about Jeff, is to explain him. Not to excuse him. It had been obvious to many of us that Jeff may have had emotional issues. He had lost two fathers growing up and was "medicated" for various behavior troubles as well. He told me he wanted to be a minister and was kicked out of two religious schools. Right now, Jeff's picture is all over the country. Many feel the need to join the circus of the media and make fun of this young man and associate him with Occupy in a way to discredit the movement. Jeff always talked about love and what an important force in the world it was. I think in his way he was just looking for it. In Occupy he saw people who cared about the world, about our country and each other. When Jeff pissed many of us off in his occasional rants (before the theft) we did not kick him out. He was always welcome and found a hug from friends when he needed it. Unfortunately for Jeff, his actions have automatically removed him from Occupy. Theft is not tolerated. But, thanks to the press and the shallow circus mentality of the public, he has branded Occupy Pensacola with his actions. Some in Occupy hate him for that. Most of us still love him and hope he gets what he needs to correct his behavior, and the love he is looking for. My young children thought he was great. He was kind and loved playing music for them. Thank you Jeff. I am an Occupy Pensacola supporter. I have come to know Jeff through Occupy. He is a Libertarian and Ron Paul supporter, of which there are many in the Occupy movement. I am not one of them, but I want to make it clear, that Jeff’s actions do not represent Occupy Pensacola, or the Libertarians of OP.
Let me say first off, there is no excuse at all for what Jeff did. None. What I want to say about Jeff, is to explain him. Not to excuse him.
It had been obvious to many of us that Jeff may have had emotional issues. He had lost two fathers growing up and was “medicated” for various behavior troubles as well. He told me he wanted to be a minister and was kicked out of two religious schools.
Right now, Jeff’s picture is all over the country. Many feel the need to join the circus of the media and make fun of this young man and associate him with Occupy in a way to discredit the movement. Jeff always talked about love and what an important force in the world it was. I think in his way he was just looking for it. In Occupy he saw people who cared about the world, about our country and each other. When Jeff pissed many of us off in his occasional rants (before the theft) we did not kick him out. He was always welcome and found a hug from friends when he needed it.
Unfortunately for Jeff, his actions have automatically removed him from Occupy. Theft is not tolerated. But, thanks to the press and the shallow circus mentality of the public, he has branded Occupy Pensacola with his actions. Some in Occupy hate him for that. Most of us still love him and hope he gets what he needs to correct his behavior, and the love he is looking for.
My young children thought he was great. He was kind and loved playing music for them. Thank you Jeff.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2011/11/occupy-pcola-protest-busted/comment-page-1#comment-107772 David Huie Green Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:30:12 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=75186#comment-107772 REGARDING: " Money is not Free Speech! Corporations are NOT PEOPLE! " Of course, it isn't FREE speech, but it IS speech. Money talks. People say what they mean by how they spend their money. Any limitation on how a person spends his or her money to speak is a way of stifling that person. Legally corporations ARE people, but more to the point, every corporation is composed of people -- with the occasional Klingon thrown in for good measure. Corporations are composed of people, employ people, are intended to benefit people even if only the share holders -- people. The only real problems with corporations speaking through money is the decisions of Congress to hide the money, not admit who is funding their efforts and lifestyles. Again, that's not a corporation problem, that's a politician problem. If you can get THEM to reform that, you will have done a good thing. Those who say they will Occupy until all corruption is ended are saying they intend to Occupy forever, because even if you eliminated all corruption today, someone would start it back up tomorrow. In the mean time, stealing is still wrong even if done by the most noble of Occupy people. David for freedom of expression and property rights REGARDING:
” Money is not Free Speech! Corporations are NOT PEOPLE! ”

Of course, it isn’t FREE speech, but it IS speech. Money talks. People say what they mean by how they spend their money. Any limitation on how a person spends his or her money to speak is a way of stifling that person.

Legally corporations ARE people, but more to the point, every corporation is composed of people — with the occasional Klingon thrown in for good measure. Corporations are composed of people, employ people, are intended to benefit people even if only the share holders — people.

The only real problems with corporations speaking through money is the decisions of Congress to hide the money, not admit who is funding their efforts and lifestyles. Again, that’s not a corporation problem, that’s a politician problem.

If you can get THEM to reform that, you will have done a good thing. Those who say they will Occupy until all corruption is ended are saying they intend to Occupy forever, because even if you eliminated all corruption today, someone would start it back up tomorrow.

In the mean time, stealing is still wrong even if done by the most noble of Occupy people.

David for freedom of expression
and property rights

]]> By: Bob Wilson http://www.northescambia.com/2011/11/occupy-pcola-protest-busted/comment-page-1#comment-107757 Bob Wilson Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:08:04 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=75186#comment-107757 Many of the Occupation of Pensacola have real jobs, or are retired... I fit both categories. It was an attraction for many not so fortunate and they were welcomed as long as they were civil. Some believe in different idealogy, but all believe we need some revolutionary change in America. The most common belief and mine is we must reform our political system to stop it from being bought. Money is not Free Speach! Corporations are NOT PEOPLE! The People that run corporations are not accountable because of the design of incorporating in the first place to protect them from liability and the purpose of incorporating is to profit. Not evil until it is at the cost of everyone else...We need honest democracy to protect us from the unchecked profiters, thar be PIRATES! Many of the Occupation of Pensacola have real jobs, or are retired… I fit both categories. It was an attraction for many not so fortunate and they were welcomed as long as they were civil. Some believe in different idealogy, but all believe we need some revolutionary change in America. The most common belief and mine is we must reform our political system to stop it from being bought. Money is not Free Speach! Corporations are NOT PEOPLE! The People that run corporations are not accountable because of the design of incorporating in the first place to protect them from liability and the purpose of incorporating is to profit. Not evil until it is at the cost of everyone else…We need honest democracy to protect us from the unchecked profiters, thar be PIRATES!

]]> By: huh http://www.northescambia.com/2011/11/occupy-pcola-protest-busted/comment-page-1#comment-107748 huh Mon, 21 Nov 2011 01:39:27 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=75186#comment-107748 Steal furniture = go to jail Rob the American public blind , taking billions of dollars and giving yourself million dollar bonuses = no jail time Its amazing where our priorities are Steal furniture = go to jail

Rob the American public blind , taking billions of dollars and giving yourself million dollar bonuses = no jail time

Its amazing where our priorities are

]]> By: Julia W. http://www.northescambia.com/2011/11/occupy-pcola-protest-busted/comment-page-1#comment-107689 Julia W. Sun, 20 Nov 2011 04:31:35 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=75186#comment-107689 It seems to me this guy is a LOSER from the get go. It seems to me this guy is a LOSER from the get go.

]]> By: safebear http://www.northescambia.com/2011/11/occupy-pcola-protest-busted/comment-page-1#comment-107683 safebear Sun, 20 Nov 2011 03:09:30 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=75186#comment-107683 We can't get a job so lets get arrested so we can't get a job! Sounds kind of backwards. We can’t get a job so lets get arrested so we can’t get a job! Sounds kind of backwards.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2011/11/occupy-pcola-protest-busted/comment-page-1#comment-107681 David Huie Green Sun, 20 Nov 2011 03:03:34 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=75186#comment-107681 REGARDING: "A felony? Seems a bit extreme." You don't think breaking into people's homes and robbing them should be a crime? Please give them your address and a list of any valuables they might find to steal David for the ACLU REGARDING:
“A felony? Seems a bit extreme.”

You don’t think breaking into people’s homes and robbing them should be a crime?

Please give them your address and a list of any valuables they might find to steal

David for the ACLU

]]> By: For profit prisons http://www.northescambia.com/2011/11/occupy-pcola-protest-busted/comment-page-1#comment-107665 For profit prisons Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:15:04 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=75186#comment-107665 A felony? Seems a bit extreme. A felony? Seems a bit extreme.

]]> By: Gembeaux http://www.northescambia.com/2011/11/occupy-pcola-protest-busted/comment-page-1#comment-107664 Gembeaux Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:13:25 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=75186#comment-107664 Bozo. Bozo.

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