Comments on: Florida Timeline For Redistricting Drawing Fire http://www.northescambia.com/2011/08/florida-timeline-for-redistricting-drawing-fire Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:41:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: 429SCJ http://www.northescambia.com/2011/08/florida-timeline-for-redistricting-drawing-fire/comment-page-1#comment-97687 429SCJ Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:30:15 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=65285#comment-97687 Bryan Thanks for the interesting history lesson. My ideas are somewhat more streamlined. If the current economic trends continue, who knows .Once more into the breach dear friends? Bryan Thanks for the interesting history lesson. My ideas are somewhat more streamlined. If the current economic trends continue, who knows .Once more into the breach dear friends?

]]> By: Bryan Bethea http://www.northescambia.com/2011/08/florida-timeline-for-redistricting-drawing-fire/comment-page-1#comment-97610 Bryan Bethea Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:10:44 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=65285#comment-97610 West Virginia was created in 1863 when the western most counties of Virginia held public referendums on seceding from Virginia and forming a new state. If you read the history carefully you will find that the results of the referendums were falsified to show support for creating the new state. The US Constitution says that no new state can be created from the territory of an existing state without consent from both Congress and the legislature of the state holding jurisdiction over the territory. In the case of West Virginia this happened during the Civil War when Congress did not recognize the authority of the Virginia legislature. There is still considerable debate to this day over whether West Virginia is a constitutionally valid state. For Northwest Florida to become its own state it would need to hold referendums on the issue, get majority public support, and then win the support of both Congress and the Florida Legislature, neither of which are going to allow the most conservative, Republican-oriented part of Florida to break away. Doing so would ultimately add 2 more very conservative members of the Senate and House. There are many states today where geographic tensions are evident. California (north and south), Virginia (DC suburbs vs. the rest of the state), New York (everything outside the City vs. the City), Colorado (Denver vs. everywhere else). Utlimately these separationist attitudes are the result of urban vs. rural tension and not necessarily politically based. West Virginia was created in 1863 when the western most counties of Virginia held public referendums on seceding from Virginia and forming a new state. If you read the history carefully you will find that the results of the referendums were falsified to show support for creating the new state. The US Constitution says that no new state can be created from the territory of an existing state without consent from both Congress and the legislature of the state holding jurisdiction over the territory. In the case of West Virginia this happened during the Civil War when Congress did not recognize the authority of the Virginia legislature. There is still considerable debate to this day over whether West Virginia is a constitutionally valid state.

For Northwest Florida to become its own state it would need to hold referendums on the issue, get majority public support, and then win the support of both Congress and the Florida Legislature, neither of which are going to allow the most conservative, Republican-oriented part of Florida to break away. Doing so would ultimately add 2 more very conservative members of the Senate and House.

There are many states today where geographic tensions are evident. California (north and south), Virginia (DC suburbs vs. the rest of the state), New York (everything outside the City vs. the City), Colorado (Denver vs. everywhere else). Utlimately these separationist attitudes are the result of urban vs. rural tension and not necessarily politically based.

]]> By: Fairlane63 http://www.northescambia.com/2011/08/florida-timeline-for-redistricting-drawing-fire/comment-page-1#comment-97506 Fairlane63 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:06:22 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=65285#comment-97506 "Otherwise, would-be candidates will essentially have qualifying week — from June 18 to June 22 — to look at final maps and decide whether they want to make a bid." That's the whole idea-- anything to protect the incumbents. Getting rid of run-off primaries a few years ago was done for the same purpose. “Otherwise, would-be candidates will essentially have qualifying week — from June 18 to June 22 — to look at final maps and decide whether they want to make a bid.”

That’s the whole idea– anything to protect the incumbents. Getting rid of run-off primaries a few years ago was done for the same purpose.

]]> By: 429SCJ http://www.northescambia.com/2011/08/florida-timeline-for-redistricting-drawing-fire/comment-page-1#comment-97475 429SCJ Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:45:48 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=65285#comment-97475 If Virginia can have the state of W. Va., why then can Florida, not have the state of NW. Fl.? If Virginia can have the state of W. Va., why then can Florida, not have the state of NW. Fl.?

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