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	<title>Comments on: Escambia Proposes $4.3 Million Cantonment Fire Training Facility With Ascend</title>
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		<title>By: Volunteer Fire Fighter</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2011/08/escabmia-proposes-4-3-million-cantonment-fire-training-facility-with-ascend/comment-page-1#comment-96198</link>
		<dc:creator>Volunteer Fire Fighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you can tell who has never needed the fire department... We&#039;re always put off or a &quot;waste of tax payers money&quot; until you need us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you can tell who has never needed the fire department&#8230; We&#8217;re always put off or a &#8220;waste of tax payers money&#8221; until you need us.</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REGARDING:
“ how about taking that 3.5 million and giving your workers a pay raise,&quot;

You ARE right that the money would benefit people other than just their employees. That’s okay as long as their employees benefit too.

Every time those who train there work a call they should do a better job of saving lives and extinguishing fires even if the beneficiaries aren&#039;t Ascend employees or their families. 

It might also result in lower insurance rates for those in the areas who got better training. It&#039;s pretty easy for lower insurance rates to exceed $3.5 million when many people are involved over much of a time span. In fact, it&#039;s quite possible the Ascend employees alone will get that much benefit and the rest will just be extra. 

Years back we figured where the McDavid VFD ISO rating lowered insurance more than the MSBU cost, but I have no idea how it compares now. Part of that rating was equipment, training, record keeping, response time.

David for wise spending 
and maximum benefit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REGARDING:<br />
“ how about taking that 3.5 million and giving your workers a pay raise,&#8221;</p>
<p>You ARE right that the money would benefit people other than just their employees. That’s okay as long as their employees benefit too.</p>
<p>Every time those who train there work a call they should do a better job of saving lives and extinguishing fires even if the beneficiaries aren&#8217;t Ascend employees or their families. </p>
<p>It might also result in lower insurance rates for those in the areas who got better training. It&#8217;s pretty easy for lower insurance rates to exceed $3.5 million when many people are involved over much of a time span. In fact, it&#8217;s quite possible the Ascend employees alone will get that much benefit and the rest will just be extra. </p>
<p>Years back we figured where the McDavid VFD ISO rating lowered insurance more than the MSBU cost, but I have no idea how it compares now. Part of that rating was equipment, training, record keeping, response time.</p>
<p>David for wise spending<br />
and maximum benefit</p>
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		<title>By: dick tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>dick tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 03:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If hazmat has been buried on this property over the years, like at the wastewater property, will it be properly disposed of, or kept quiet, just like the wastewater plant ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If hazmat has been buried on this property over the years, like at the wastewater property, will it be properly disposed of, or kept quiet, just like the wastewater plant ???</p>
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		<title>By: Polythenepam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polythenepam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 03:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad and granddad were both firefighters so You know snipe, im not aganst a training facility. I just think this particular plan sou.ds fishy.much too comvenient . Yes think big we could have a facility for training personnel for the whole region not just the county. Ps.     A tanker truck full of water will get stuck on a so called road that has never been packed or graded. Just saying.....
And how about that pay .give the voluteers a paid job with equipment etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad and granddad were both firefighters so You know snipe, im not aganst a training facility. I just think this particular plan sou.ds fishy.much too comvenient . Yes think big we could have a facility for training personnel for the whole region not just the county. Ps.     A tanker truck full of water will get stuck on a so called road that has never been packed or graded. Just saying&#8230;..<br />
And how about that pay .give the voluteers a paid job with equipment etc.</p>
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		<title>By: sniper</title>
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		<dc:creator>sniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Polythenepam:

Most if not all buildings around here do not have the need for fire hydrants next to them.  All of the northend departments have tanker trucks that have more than enough water to extinguish any fire that might pop up. just saying.  

and imagine if it were you or a loved one living next to the plant and got in a jam...  id want the people trained to do the best job possible.  AND if you work at the plant and want more money...join the fire brigade!

Being an old volunteer fire fighter i think the idea is great.  the entire county could use the facility to train!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Polythenepam:</p>
<p>Most if not all buildings around here do not have the need for fire hydrants next to them.  All of the northend departments have tanker trucks that have more than enough water to extinguish any fire that might pop up. just saying.  </p>
<p>and imagine if it were you or a loved one living next to the plant and got in a jam&#8230;  id want the people trained to do the best job possible.  AND if you work at the plant and want more money&#8230;join the fire brigade!</p>
<p>Being an old volunteer fire fighter i think the idea is great.  the entire county could use the facility to train!!!</p>
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		<title>By: TAXPAYER</title>
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		<dc:creator>TAXPAYER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WASTE OF TAX MONEY, LET ASCEND SEND ALL OF THE THEM TO TEXAS A&amp;M FIRE TRAINING SCHOOL EVERY 5 YEARS, LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT ITS FOR INDUSTRIAL FIRES ANYWAY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WASTE OF TAX MONEY, LET ASCEND SEND ALL OF THE THEM TO TEXAS A&amp;M FIRE TRAINING SCHOOL EVERY 5 YEARS, LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT ITS FOR INDUSTRIAL FIRES ANYWAY!</p>
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		<title>By: Oversight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oversight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 05:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BarrineauParkDad continues to prove my point as &quot;he&quot; posted... &quot;Most of the public would be surprised to know how many of the surrounding area’s volunteer firefighters are employees of Ascend and receive their training and certifications from fire training at Ascend. I know of at least three of the area’s VFD’s chiefs are employed by and trained at Ascend.&quot;

Ascend is trying to get a &quot;free&quot; training facility to use for its own purposes at taxpayer expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BarrineauParkDad continues to prove my point as &#8220;he&#8221; posted&#8230; &#8220;Most of the public would be surprised to know how many of the surrounding area’s volunteer firefighters are employees of Ascend and receive their training and certifications from fire training at Ascend. I know of at least three of the area’s VFD’s chiefs are employed by and trained at Ascend.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ascend is trying to get a &#8220;free&#8221; training facility to use for its own purposes at taxpayer expense.</p>
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		<title>By: BarrineauParkDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>BarrineauParkDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 01:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people are going to gripe no matter what.

Most of the public would be surprised to know how many of the surrounding area&#039;s volunteer firefighters are employees of Ascend and receive their training and certifications from fire training at Ascend.  I know of at least three of the area&#039;s VFD&#039;s chiefs are employed by and trained at Ascend.

For the record, no one at Ascend has lost their pension.  Those of us with a vested pension balance, still have it and are make interest on it, although its not much.  There is simply no more contributions being made.  We do however have a 401K with a contribution match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people are going to gripe no matter what.</p>
<p>Most of the public would be surprised to know how many of the surrounding area&#8217;s volunteer firefighters are employees of Ascend and receive their training and certifications from fire training at Ascend.  I know of at least three of the area&#8217;s VFD&#8217;s chiefs are employed by and trained at Ascend.</p>
<p>For the record, no one at Ascend has lost their pension.  Those of us with a vested pension balance, still have it and are make interest on it, although its not much.  There is simply no more contributions being made.  We do however have a 401K with a contribution match.</p>
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		<title>By: Oversight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oversight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 01:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ghw, you said it and this is the concern as you posted, &quot;Ascend has [its] own 24/7 paid fire brigade, trucks, ambulance, medical department, and hazmat response team.&quot;  

For 20 acres, the county is going to provide a full-time training support center for the company&#039;s training requirements at our expense.  NO WAY!!!   Commissioner White better get on board with a no vote and look to using county owned property to build a training facility.   This way Ascend can continue to pay taxes on its property!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ghw, you said it and this is the concern as you posted, &#8220;Ascend has [its] own 24/7 paid fire brigade, trucks, ambulance, medical department, and hazmat response team.&#8221;  </p>
<p>For 20 acres, the county is going to provide a full-time training support center for the company&#8217;s training requirements at our expense.  NO WAY!!!   Commissioner White better get on board with a no vote and look to using county owned property to build a training facility.   This way Ascend can continue to pay taxes on its property!</p>
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		<title>By: ghw</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polythenepam

Ascend has their own 24/7 paid fire brigade, trucks, ambulance, medical department, and hazmat response team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polythenepam</p>
<p>Ascend has their own 24/7 paid fire brigade, trucks, ambulance, medical department, and hazmat response team.</p>
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