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	<title>Comments on: Man Found Not Guilty Of Shooting Neighbor&#8217;s Dog &#8216;Barack&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Beauxdean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beauxdean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that when the state loses a court case, they should have to pay a person back for the money he spent on a lawyer and any other expenses. What do you think America? They go around making cases to generate themselves money and are making tons of it off the people in America. Escambia county makes over a million dollars a month just on dui cases alone....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that when the state loses a court case, they should have to pay a person back for the money he spent on a lawyer and any other expenses. What do you think America? They go around making cases to generate themselves money and are making tons of it off the people in America. Escambia county makes over a million dollars a month just on dui cases alone&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 03:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the information, juror on this case . It makes even more sense with what you explained. (I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d have faulted him either way, but certainly people shouldn&#039;t be found guilty just because someone said so without proof.)

David for good juries</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information, juror on this case . It makes even more sense with what you explained. (I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d have faulted him either way, but certainly people shouldn&#8217;t be found guilty just because someone said so without proof.)</p>
<p>David for good juries</p>
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		<title>By: juror on this case</title>
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		<dc:creator>juror on this case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 16:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To whomever it may concern:
   Any time you sit on a jury you are told that in order to find a person guiltyit must be beyond a reasonable doubt. Well in this case there was none.In my opinion the ECSO dropped the ball on this one. As a jury we were not presented with evidence to find Mr Clay guilty. A quick run down was 
1) The weapon supposedly used was not recovered on Mr Clay&#039;s property but a   
neighbors
2) The dog was not under mr Clay&#039;s house but under another neighbors home.
3) The weapon was never finger printed
4) The dog was never removed to see what type of weapon it had been shot with.
5) The wittness testimonies varied from the dog breaking his chain to never being tied up
    With the evidence we were presented we had to find him not guilty. Whether he did it or not is a question only he can answer. And by the way the Shotgun Shell recovered from the gun that was supposedly used was a #8 bird shot not buckshot. The child was 9 yrs old and did not actually see the shot fired. He came around the corner of the fence from behind Mr. Clay as the dog was running through the property after he heard a shot. And the problem today is not with the juries as asked by Abt, the problem is the state is not able to trie a case because of lack of evidence. If I was to sit on this jury a hundred times I would find Mr. Clay not guilty a hundred times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To whomever it may concern:<br />
   Any time you sit on a jury you are told that in order to find a person guiltyit must be beyond a reasonable doubt. Well in this case there was none.In my opinion the ECSO dropped the ball on this one. As a jury we were not presented with evidence to find Mr Clay guilty. A quick run down was<br />
1) The weapon supposedly used was not recovered on Mr Clay&#8217;s property but a<br />
neighbors<br />
2) The dog was not under mr Clay&#8217;s house but under another neighbors home.<br />
3) The weapon was never finger printed<br />
4) The dog was never removed to see what type of weapon it had been shot with.<br />
5) The wittness testimonies varied from the dog breaking his chain to never being tied up<br />
    With the evidence we were presented we had to find him not guilty. Whether he did it or not is a question only he can answer. And by the way the Shotgun Shell recovered from the gun that was supposedly used was a #8 bird shot not buckshot. The child was 9 yrs old and did not actually see the shot fired. He came around the corner of the fence from behind Mr. Clay as the dog was running through the property after he heard a shot. And the problem today is not with the juries as asked by Abt, the problem is the state is not able to trie a case because of lack of evidence. If I was to sit on this jury a hundred times I would find Mr. Clay not guilty a hundred times.</p>
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		<title>By: tedl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tedl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nine times  outta  ten,,.  the  dog  has  been  in close  proximity,,,,either  for  food  scraps  that  people  throw  off  their  porch  or  fling  into   the  yard,  or  even  trash... .   if   the   animals characteristics  is  to  hunt  ,, kill  ,pursue  ,,,  then  the  dog  will   do   so,..  if  the  owner  chooses  to  have  that   type   of   dog,,,then  there  should   be  no  limit   to  the  penalties  for  this    dog. ,,  if  you  go   and  get  a  lassie ,  then  that  type  of   dog  probably  would&#039;nt  chase   and   kill  another   animal   upon   instinct. , however   keeping  youre  pet,  animal  ,  dog  ,,  ,,,    properly  confined, would  show   respect   for  other   neighbors,,  joggers,,  walkers  ,,  and   passersby. ..  if   a  dog  gets  shot  for  the  act   of  killing ,  maiming   another   owners   livestock,,,,,,,,,  then  that    is what   the   owner   has   the  right  to    do,..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nine times  outta  ten,,.  the  dog  has  been  in close  proximity,,,,either  for  food  scraps  that  people  throw  off  their  porch  or  fling  into   the  yard,  or  even  trash&#8230; .   if   the   animals characteristics  is  to  hunt  ,, kill  ,pursue  ,,,  then  the  dog  will   do   so,..  if  the  owner  chooses  to  have  that   type   of   dog,,,then  there  should   be  no  limit   to  the  penalties  for  this    dog. ,,  if  you  go   and  get  a  lassie ,  then  that  type  of   dog  probably  would&#8217;nt  chase   and   kill  another   animal   upon   instinct. , however   keeping  youre  pet,  animal  ,  dog  ,,  ,,,    properly  confined, would  show   respect   for  other   neighbors,,  joggers,,  walkers  ,,  and   passersby. ..  if   a  dog  gets  shot  for  the  act   of  killing ,  maiming   another   owners   livestock,,,,,,,,,  then  that    is what   the   owner   has   the  right  to    do,..</p>
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		<title>By: Atmore G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atmore G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 20:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me clarify my earlier comment..  I would never shoot a dog for merely being on my property..  I would make every effort to run him off, or if possible, contact his owner..  If he was not violent, I would simply let him leave on his own..  As I stated in my earlier comment, I would not use deadly force unless the animal attacked me or my pets and there was no other way to stop him..  That being said, I love animals, and I would feel really bad if I had to kill a dog, even if it was justified..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me clarify my earlier comment..  I would never shoot a dog for merely being on my property..  I would make every effort to run him off, or if possible, contact his owner..  If he was not violent, I would simply let him leave on his own..  As I stated in my earlier comment, I would not use deadly force unless the animal attacked me or my pets and there was no other way to stop him..  That being said, I love animals, and I would feel really bad if I had to kill a dog, even if it was justified..</p>
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		<title>By: 429SCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>429SCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a thought for owners of dangerous pets. If a person is attacked by your pet, and your home owners insurance has to pay. They will drop you and no other insurer will want your risk. If you have a mortgage, your finance company will call your mortgage in, for lack of coverage. These animals are not worth the financial hardship they could cause. Fence your yard, post warnings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a thought for owners of dangerous pets. If a person is attacked by your pet, and your home owners insurance has to pay. They will drop you and no other insurer will want your risk. If you have a mortgage, your finance company will call your mortgage in, for lack of coverage. These animals are not worth the financial hardship they could cause. Fence your yard, post warnings!</p>
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		<title>By: Hmm...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmm...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 03:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about all of this, but I do know that I had to shoot a dog in Atmore, years ago, because he broke his chain, entered my yard, and was in the process of killing my dog, which was on a tether. After I asked the family to stop the dog, they refused, and I shot the animal, killing him. The law was called, and, upon arrival, told the offending party that he could press charges against me for killing his dog. He declined, and, after much research, I found that the officer was completely in the wrong. I am actually allowed, by law, to kill any animal on my property showing a threat to life or property. Well, imagine that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about all of this, but I do know that I had to shoot a dog in Atmore, years ago, because he broke his chain, entered my yard, and was in the process of killing my dog, which was on a tether. After I asked the family to stop the dog, they refused, and I shot the animal, killing him. The law was called, and, upon arrival, told the offending party that he could press charges against me for killing his dog. He declined, and, after much research, I found that the officer was completely in the wrong. I am actually allowed, by law, to kill any animal on my property showing a threat to life or property. Well, imagine that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 02:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REGARDING:
“Or did the dog kill the goats yet another time?

“Wilson tethered the dog in her yard, but it escaped. That’s when, according to the police report, Clay shot the dog with his shotgun.”

Which certainly reads like the dog got in his yard again since its body was found under his house. It doesn’t tell if he had other animals or children who might be threatened by a known animal killer. STUMPKNOCKER claims one of the children of the owner was with the dog at the time. (“MR CLAY SAW THE DOG ROAMING AROUND 2 WEEKS LATER AND TOOK UPON HIMSELF TO SHOOT THE DOG IN FRONT OF THE 10 YEAR OLD CHILD WHO OWNS THE DOG”)  Makes you wonder if that kid released the dog.

David trusting juries to be cautious</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REGARDING:<br />
“Or did the dog kill the goats yet another time?</p>
<p>“Wilson tethered the dog in her yard, but it escaped. That’s when, according to the police report, Clay shot the dog with his shotgun.”</p>
<p>Which certainly reads like the dog got in his yard again since its body was found under his house. It doesn’t tell if he had other animals or children who might be threatened by a known animal killer. STUMPKNOCKER claims one of the children of the owner was with the dog at the time. (“MR CLAY SAW THE DOG ROAMING AROUND 2 WEEKS LATER AND TOOK UPON HIMSELF TO SHOOT THE DOG IN FRONT OF THE 10 YEAR OLD CHILD WHO OWNS THE DOG”)  Makes you wonder if that kid released the dog.</p>
<p>David trusting juries to be cautious</p>
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		<title>By: Abt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 02:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SW: it looks like he took the money, then killed the dog anyway. He shouldn&#039;t be allowed to have it both ways. Or did the dog kill the goats yet another time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SW: it looks like he took the money, then killed the dog anyway. He shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to have it both ways. Or did the dog kill the goats yet another time?</p>
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		<title>By: always bizzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>always bizzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 23:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lack of a leash law north of Well Line Road does not mean you can allow your dogs (or other animals) be a nuisance to your neighbors or let them attack other animals. If care for your animal, keep them on your property, train them properly, and vaccinate them. If you don&#039;t care for your animals then get rid of them. Find them a loving home. I have two dogs and when they are not in the house they are confined to our fenced in back yard. This is a touchy subject for me. My son was attacked by a neighbor three dogs last year at his bus stop. He had three bites on his legs. The bites did not require stitches but it was a frightening experience for my family. The owners had been asked to keep the dogs up during the time the students were going to the bus. His solution was to have my son teach his dogs a lesson by hitting them with a stick. Two of the dogs have been declared viscous, one was not. We are still battling this issue in our neighborhood. If I feel threatened by a dog, especially after a neighbor has been warned and knows what is required of them legally, you can be sure that I would take matters into my own hands and we have been told by law enforcement that we can do so. It is a shame when a dog owner puts their animal in this position. It is also a shame to have such a matter cost the taxpayers when it goes to court or having Animal Control waste their time dealing with the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lack of a leash law north of Well Line Road does not mean you can allow your dogs (or other animals) be a nuisance to your neighbors or let them attack other animals. If care for your animal, keep them on your property, train them properly, and vaccinate them. If you don&#8217;t care for your animals then get rid of them. Find them a loving home. I have two dogs and when they are not in the house they are confined to our fenced in back yard. This is a touchy subject for me. My son was attacked by a neighbor three dogs last year at his bus stop. He had three bites on his legs. The bites did not require stitches but it was a frightening experience for my family. The owners had been asked to keep the dogs up during the time the students were going to the bus. His solution was to have my son teach his dogs a lesson by hitting them with a stick. Two of the dogs have been declared viscous, one was not. We are still battling this issue in our neighborhood. If I feel threatened by a dog, especially after a neighbor has been warned and knows what is required of them legally, you can be sure that I would take matters into my own hands and we have been told by law enforcement that we can do so. It is a shame when a dog owner puts their animal in this position. It is also a shame to have such a matter cost the taxpayers when it goes to court or having Animal Control waste their time dealing with the problem.</p>
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