Comments on: Court Rules Pensacola Beach Residents Must Pay Escambia Property Taxes

By: Molino-Anon

Molino-Anon — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 16:51:03 +0000

Makes perfect sense to me… if you can afford to improve, you can afford the taxes.

By: eab

eab — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:52:42 +0000

Tuf said…”Oh, LOL. “Not Again’s” comment about “limosine liberals” on Pensacola Beach is hilarious.”

Oh, c’mon, Tuf. At least he got the slob part right.(chuckle)

By: Tuf

Tuf — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:31:11 +0000

Oh, LOL. “Not Again’s” comment about “limosine liberals” on Pensacola Beach is hilarious.

Liberals living at Pensacola Beach? You need to do some serious research. Check out the election history of Precinct 94 through the Escambia Supervisor of Elections website. You will see that Pensacola Beach (Pct 94) votes SOLIDLY GOP for senators, state reps, governors, local elected officials, etc.

The political reality of the residents at Pensacola Beach is that they are wealthy
REPUBLICANS hiding from taxation (and thus causing mainland Escambia’s to carry the county’s bills). They are limosine conservatives, not liberals.

The same Republican Party does not want to raise taxes on these very wealthy individuals that you feel should carry more of the burden of public budgets and services.

Let’s get the labels correct, and let’s examine who pays what, and not just fling out FoxNews philosophy that all people trying to milk public services and budgets are liberal.

By: eab

eab — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 02:26:27 +0000

Linda L. said…”Title to ALL improvements passes to the county the moment they are built! So for those who say we shouldn’t pay taxes on leased land, the same should hold true as to leased improvements.”

I said…Well, right or wrong, you will find it difficult to find much sympathy for people who have built on the beach over the past 30 years or so. They block the view and in some cases access to the beach areas (or try to). And then rebuild every 10-20 years keeping insurance rates high.

For my part, I would like to see everything down there razed to the ground except for a 7-11 and Ft Pickens. It just ain’t a good idea to build on a barrier island anyway. Of course I admit that that’s a different issue. So let me ask this….

Can you build a structure and sell it for a profit (or loss)? If what you mean is that the county takes over your house if you decide to move, then I see your point. But if you can buy and seel then pay your taxes or do without the police and other county services.

By: Taxpayer

Taxpayer — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:21:55 +0000

The term “lease” for the beach property is the same as “ownership” because the lease holder is allowed to improve the property and then “sell” the improvements for a profit (i e; beach houses and businesses) just as any other property owner does. So having those beach folks pay property taxes on the improvements is fair.

Besides, you never actually own the land any way because we are in effect renting it from the government which taxes us. Don’t pay your property taxes and see what happens – the government will take it.

By: Linda L.

Linda L. — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:15:06 +0000

What most county folks don’t understand is that, as to the vast majority of leases on Pensacola Beach, unlike some other places in the U.S., not only don’t we own the land, but we don’t own the buildings, either. Title to ALL improvements passes to the county the moment they are built! So for those who say we shouldn’t pay taxes on leased land, the same should hold true as to leased improvements. Look, the only sane and fair answer to all this is to get out of the dark ages and offer the option of fee simple title to leaseholders, so they can be on the same footing as all other county residents in paying taxes, not lease fees. Protections are in place to insure all existing public beach lands and access will remain unrestricted. Unfortunately, the Escambia County Commission has slowed down the process of getting this done (read the PNJ’s PBeach community forum for a lot more info on this issue. Get the facts!).

By: fedupwithpolitics

fedupwithpolitics — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 00:53:31 +0000

If the people at the beach can afford to build homes worth a million dollars or more then they should pay property tax on the building…everyone else pays property tax on their homes and so should they…if they don’t want to pay then move from beach. It is again the haves trying to find all tax loopholes possible while the rest of us pay. The home is in their name and not the county.

By: Name (required)

Name (required) — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:53:26 +0000

Joe,

The tax is only on ‘improvements’ ie… structures built on the leased land.

It does not seem unreasonable to me that folks pay property taxes on their property… (I agree they should not pay on the leased land).

The home owner is receiving services I am paying for… why should they not also be taxed on it? It seems to me to be fair for all to pay their share….

… I AM glad for the trend to decrease that share we pay though.

By: NotAgain

NotAgain — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:07:40 +0000

It’s about time those limousine liberals and Yankee carpetbaggers out on the beach started paying taxes like the rest of us slobs.

By: joe

joe — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:00:58 +0000

case law will prevail! In this case the high court has no choice but to look at the past precedance established by 50 years of case law on the matter.
taxiation on lease property should be standardized across the board! A lease is not ownership!

By definition a lease : is a rental contract: a legal contract allowing somebody exclusive possession of another’s property for a specific time in return for a payment

the lease should cover it all as these people do not own the land they rent it!
if the county wants property tax for the land they should get it from the land owner……..The county!