Comments on: More Details Released In Jay Murder By Morphine Overdose

By: Me

Me — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:29:50 +0000

Wrong again, Joe. While they do make money off of premiums, they do not make money off of medications, at least not under workers’ comp. I’ve seen companies sell off their workers’ comp divisions because of losing money.
Neither does medicare make any money I am assuming.
A lot of people defraud these two entities (work comp & Medicare) at the expense of the people who really need it.
A medicare premium comes off my paycheck every pay period and again assuming some of it goes to cover the fraud of people who don’t really need it or deserve it.

By: just my words

just my words — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 05:54:24 +0000

I think all should be held for this for not doing anything to stop it, so there was no phone, but there was a way to go get something to eat, did not even consider going for help then, and they make a liquid form all she had to do was request this instead of the pill form, I think they all was shooting up and just gave this one an overdose, if they wouldn’t doing wrong themselves they would have gotten some help for this lady.

By: joe

joe — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 00:42:44 +0000

Re: “Sorry but the pharmaceutical companies & suppliers make the money. Insurance companies lose money in this situation.”

this is completely incorrect, if the insurance companies lost money they would no longer be in business. their entire purpose is to make money, not for the good of man kind.
They are a business’s not charities.

By: Me..personally

Me..personally — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:51:29 +0000

I am having a hard time with the people ther watching, especially the son! WTH! Doing drugs is bad enough but to watch as your Mother is “shot Up” and then not doing anything about it when she passes out and then —Thompson said he left his mother as he went to town with Rufus Sanford to get something to eat about 4 a.m. the following day.—–WTH?!?!?! Charge his his useless butt as well.

By: JIM W

JIM W — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:03:56 +0000

I know this is going to sound harsh but it is what it is. You can try and paint it and or turn it anyway you want but it is a drug problem and big time. It just happens so she had a RX for the drug and so where did she go immediately after getting the drugs? Riight to a flop house where that is all they were doing and not only that had it injected for her. I am sadened that she died from it but again you can not make it out to be anymore or less that what is was. And that is a buch of drug addicts doing drugs.
I can not blame insurnce companies or doctors there are fine lines there when the patient has a problem medically and the doctor is treating them. The doc does not have any way of knowing what there are doing after they leave his or her office. To say the insurance companies are making a fortune off the meds is absurd. They make no monies as someone pointed out in another response on here. The just get to pay for the meds. The supplier is the one who makes the monies. The insrurance company does however make money on the premium. But guess where the premium comes from “use” and in covering drugs and other abuses and so on. Then you wonder why you medical insurance cost so much. Wake up people get your heads out of the sand!

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:18:10 +0000

REGARDING:
“- – - it doesn’t sound reasonable to me that they would “kill the goose that laid the golden egg” intentionally – - – ”

On the other hand, if they were completely reasonable, they’d've never gotten on recreational drugs in the first place. Then when they were using them, they would’ve been even less reasonable. Much the same way as taking say a month’s supply of pain killers and using them in a single sitting isn’t completely reasonable, not unless the object was to end the pain permanently.

David in a sometimes unreasonable world

By: Me

Me — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:11:52 +0000

Sorry to disagree with you on the insurance companies, but especially in workers’ comp they have to try to keep the cost down. They pay on a fee schedule similar to medicare. How is driving the cost up helping the insurance company who has to pay for the meds? Sorry but the pharmaceutical companies & suppliers make the money. Insurance companies lose money in this situation. They make money on premiums that are too high, but not paying out on medical.
Oxycontin was available in generic form for a short while, but is now back to only name brand.
I’ve never seen a RX for name brand under $1,100.00 & can be as much as $1,600.00 for a months supply. This cost the insurance company pays. The supplier makes the money. That is a no-brainer. The cost can fluctuate by that much because the pharmacies have to get it from whatever pharmaceutical company/supplier has it available at the time the pharmacy needs it.
I don’t blame this doctor in this situation. I mostly blame the victim. She chose that path & it’s sad that it ended up where it did. But hopefully the remaining alive ones will go to jail.

By: Polythenepam

Polythenepam — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:32:25 +0000

If those druggies had someone that could go to a doctor and get morphine , it doesnt sound reasonable to me that they would “kill the goose that laid the golden egg” intentionally. They probably tied her up because they were stealing all her drugs and accidently OD’ed her, (by giving her what they thought was her “share”). I agree that they all should be charged. The storey sounds fishy.
The doctor can’t be blamed for what they did. Way too many times I see people in pain who are not adequately treated, mostly because doctors are frightened to prescribe because of these kind of problems. But on the other hand when the family goes to the doctor and tells him that someone is overdoing it or abusing he,the doc, needs to listen and investigate , use some common sense.
I also think that eab is right don’t believe anything from the insurance people, they will do what ever is cost effective for them including letting you have drugs that bring about your death quicker than if you tried to stay healthy, but lingered for another 40 years costing them money. And if you don’t believe it just look at what has happened with the pharmaceutical companies lately and how many drugs they have had to take back off the market. Big money DOES NOT have our best interests in mind.
So yes all that points to is cleaning out the gene pool and if you want to do drugs then you are just not high on the list of people who will survive.

By: dad

dad — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:29:21 +0000

eab you are right about end of life drugs being under prescribed. I had a friend with a very painful and terminal disease. The only thing that gave her SOME relief was oxycontin. But, in the last couple of months of her life the doctor took her off of it because he didn’t want her to be on it so long that she got addicted. Who Cares! She was dieing and because of their decision suffered a lot more than necessary. Why not use common sense?

By: eab

eab — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 23:00:15 +0000

whitepunknotondope said…”My Mother had terminal liver cancer and she was prescribed morphine by her oncologist so that she could bear the pain while choosing to die at home.

That answers your question.”

I said…Thank you for sharing that. It is true that a lot of drugs are over prescribed in this country. Sleeping pills, pain pills, whatevr the drug de jure happens to be at the moment. We use alcohol to excess, nicotine, caffeine and many others.

I am in the medical field myself and one place I do not believe drugs use or prescribing is overdone is with end of life issues. A person who has come to the end of their time should be able to get what they want/need for their pain. This is actually an area where I believe meds are under prescribed if anything.

I also gotta say it’s not my intention to upset anyone but I would not take the word of an insurance company for *anything* when it involves a payment they are responsible for.