Comments on: Meeting To Discuss Future Of Langley Bell 4-H Center

By: marcus

marcus — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 00:07:11 +0000

get a clue – all money from the sale would go to the 4H Foundation and would insure that 4H will be alive and well for future generations. What a wonderful legacy!

By: david lamb

david lamb — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 04:32:41 +0000

To Why850,
As a retired AF Tsgt. I owe no allegience to Navy Federal or any other Federal credit union. They uise the word “Federal” but are not a govt entity. they are not funded by the govt. They are a private ,for profit institution. They are no different than a pawn shop outside a military gate. They have no connection to military other than loaning money to soldiers,sailors, airmen and marines. Making a threat to move out of Escambia County makes me say “Sure gonna miss you, or “Thank God and Greyhound your gone”.
To gulf coast: and tori, Do you realize that back when my sister ,brothers and I were in 4-H the extension office had 2 men foe boys 4-H and 2 women for girls 4-H. They also had the Home Economics agent(Edwina) and the County agent (Narvo). Almost every night J. Lowell Loabholtz was out in the county at 4-H club meetings, or after school taking us livestock judges to farms to judge livestock. I would guess that he never was home before 10-11PM. He has a wonderful wife (Dee) Tori ,as a former 4-Her I forgive you, Now work toward mending your mistake byy doing ALL you are able to prevent the full sale of the rest of the Center!
To sue Showers , Sometimes money is not the answer, “The root of all evil is Money” Sound familiar. A religious belief is one thing that J. Lowell Loadholtz incubated in me.

By: Me..personally

Me..personally — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:17:00 +0000

I have was never invovled in 4-H, but I do work with horses. Thru my adolescence
years, horses kept me out of a great deal of trouble that I am sure I could have been invovled with if I would have the free time…. I think this is very sad indeed if the land is sold.

By: tori

tori — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:44:09 +0000

First of all I would like to apologize to the Bell family and the Escambia County 4-H for voting to approve the original 160 acres to Navy Federal. I was 16 and was a member of the County Council at the time, and its a decision that I regret everytime I’ve been to the 4-H center.

The Langely Bell 4-H Center has been such a important part, of not only my life, but so many other 4-H and FFA present and former members. In our family (The Hardins) there has been 2 generations of 4-Her’s that have shown livestock at the 4-H center. My stepfather showed there when he was growing up, I showed steers there when I was at Northview H.S. with the FFA, my sister has shown goats, and both of my brothers currently raise market hogs to be shown (on of which won Grand Champion this year, Go Wesley!). And I know we aren’t the only family like this.

The Langely Bell 4-H center is not only at the center of the county 4-H and FFA livestock programs but it has also been where the 4-H archery club and gun club had their events, the Escambia County Beekeepers has held meetings and demonstarations there, numerous award ceromonies and banquests are held there every year, and above all else it’s a great place for children to see nature in the ever growing city of Pensacola.

I hope the county does not vote to sell the 4-H center this evening. It will not only be a great loss to the 4-H and FFA organizations but to the whole county. Think about the youth that will miss out on so much if this wonderful piece if property is one.

I wish I could be there at the meeting but I live 4 states away, but I hope someone will be at the meeting to stand up for what’s right and not what’s going to make a quick buck.

Thank You,

Victoria Greenwell (Roach)

By: diane enfinger

diane enfinger — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 06:48:51 +0000

I want to know whats wrong with taking up a little of the vacant flight training field also right next door to the left of Navy Federals buildings? Why do they feel the need for taking away from kids. Kids already have very little to do in this entire County that doesnt cost a fortune. I don’t think anything costs as little as this or offers anything like this. If this property was donated for this purpose who made the decision of selling it? How is it legal to do this? I disagree with this sale and think it should stay the way it is!!!!! But who am I?

By: sue showers

sue showers — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 01:47:32 +0000

Think about how many jobs will come maybe lots of peoples dreams will come true by getting welfare people jobs,

By: sue

sue — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 22:51:38 +0000

As a former 4-H’er and current participant in the Extension service, I would like to voice my objection to the sale of this wonderful facility. It is my understanding it was donated for the good of the young people of this area, to enhance and encourage the 4 H’s to be an active and deliberate asset for the overall development of young hearts and heads! I would not be the person I am or have the character I have without the influence of the 4-H clubs and their sponsors. My parents were active leaders for a while, and were also championship winners of cattle and swine during our time. I treasure my experiences and the invaluable impact 4-H had on my life….and I am still raising chickens!! (That was usually my project) I wear my 4-H t-shirt with pride, and refer many people to the services the Extension Office provides. Let’s not let dollar signs rule our hearts…..If we want our kids to become better people, KEEP the location and property and LET it be used for what it was intended!!
And the threats of “going else where” for Navy Federal fall on deaf ears!
by the way…”David” is my oldest brother! Excellent comments, bro!!

By: gulf Coast

gulf Coast — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:31:43 +0000

Why850,
Do you really think Navy Federal is going to help the 4H in any way shape or form.. I saw the VP of Navy Federal personally invited to the livestock show multiple times at the first public meeting. Did she show up? I think you know the answer to that question but for everyone else it was NO she did not show up..

David,
The extension service isnt greedy but they arent the most motivated bunch in the world, they would rather go to a public school classroom and sign up 20 kids they will never see again rather than work with 2 or 3 on a REAL 4H project. It is win/win for them lots of “4H members” without alot of work. Looks good on the forms they send to the state. The real problem with selling it lies at the state level they dont want it.

LEARN BY DOING is the 4H motto, kinda hard to do something in a classroom.

Why is the media not pressuring the Navy to sell land to a credit union for Navy personel. The 4H owes nothing to Navy Federal Credit Union.

By: 429SCJ

429SCJ — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:01:17 +0000

If these carpetbaggers are allowed to grab this land, I doubt if anyone ever donates as much as a handful of sand to ESC again. If we are supposed to be a multicultural society, why does our culture keep dissappearing? Cancer!

By: David Lamb

David Lamb — Mon, 20 Jun 2011 05:43:52 +0000

I love to read N. ESC. .com. The Air Force took me away from Escambia County, FL 40 years ago. I have lived in Cass County, NE and raised 7 kids here, however my heart is in Escambia County. I was a 4-Her from 1959 until I joined the AF in 1968. Escambia County 4-H program was one of the top , strongest programs in Florida during those years. I and many other Escambia County 4-Hers took most of the State awards. I am proud to be a part of that heritage and wish I could have been a part of the program over these past years. I am passoniate about the Langley Bell Center because of what it has meant to me and so many others over the years. I find it hard to hold my comments to 300 words and hope North Escambia.com will indulge me to some degree.
Obama had a campaign slogan”FIRED UP, READY TO ROLL”. That is how I am about the proposed sale of the 4-H center.. A friend on Jacks Branch Road says thet the “good ole boys” have already struck a deal and that they are only going thru the motions required before making it public. He also says that the published price is far below what the actual land value is. That land all around there has sold for much more per acre. SO>>> Does any official, Extension Office person,county commissioner want to comment?
i could mention so many Escambia County families that have benefited from the 4-H camp/center and that their families have been blessed by Matt Langley Bell’s donation. PLEASE LETS PRESERVE THAT LEGACY. THE CENTER IS WORTH SO MUCH MORE THAN A CASH VALUE. LOOK AT THE LIVES THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY ITS EXISTENCE. Sadly there is one young man that lost his life in the lake. i never will forget that day. I was there! Cant remember his name but can relive every moment! Thank you N. ESC.com for your watchful eye.