My body, my choice is liberal mantra that liberals use to get people all fired up and chanting so that they are supporting a cause rather than thinking for themselves. Don’t get my wrong, “conservatives” do the same thing, but it doesn’t constitute a position because the truth is that we are not talking about your body.

It reminds me very much of a liberal battle call that I once swallowed and that is, “you can’t legislate morality.” Supporting a moral system of governing does not necessitate that state and church function together. What absolute garbage!

Why don’t we all call our representatives and start pushing for them to take rape laws and laws against stealing off the books. Aren’t those moral directives? The sad truth is many are so psyched up for the cause that they could easily be persuaded to support such a notion…until they were the one getting raped or stolen from.

Some supporters get no dollars out of it, therefore it can’t be ALL about dollars

Of course, you did say “to politicians” but again I doubt all the supporters of the bill who are politicians expect to get dollars out of their votes–right or wrong, wise or unwise. And as you pointed out, some of them even lose votes. Votes are things which successful politicians covet even more than conscience.

David considering motives

I don’t believe the idea that taking a life is forbidden is generally considered conservative. Most conservatives tend to favor killing killers. It’s the folks usually called liberals who believe killing killers–or even punishing them–is a bad thing.

It’s the killing of non killers which most people–liberal and conservative–oppose. If you look at people as individuals, you don’t think, “Well, she’ll probably be bad so it’s best to kill her before she has a chance to be good or bad.” In fact, the entire disagreement hinges on the question of when you are considering a person versus just some unwanted tissue.

Religious conservatives often consider a fetus a person at any stage of development. Social liberals tend to consider a fetus just tissue until after it has taken the first breath and the only reason they consider it human then is because the Constitution says anyone born in the United States is a citizen. Citizens are people, therefore once born the tissue is legally a person. (Naturally, some go beyond that and decide all animals are people too or at least have rights but so far most people recognize them as just being squirrelly.)

Regarding the concept of people just being born “welfare recipients,” fiscal conservatives don’t consider perpetual welfare an automatic thing. They consider it a creation of short-sighted liberal policies which trap people in the system, unable to get out without losing benefits.

Only a few believe genocide’s the cure to fifth generation welfare recipients.

David for honesty

Has it not occurred to anyone in the legislature that if a woman is seeking abortion, maybe it’s best she not have that child?! I say LEAVE IT ALL ALONE! Let women have abortions if they’d like. Remove your religious stink off of this issue and LET IT BE! If you happen to be religious, then follow your religions if you’d like, but don’t try to control someone else because of your beliefs!
This sickens me to no end. There are more important matters in the world for government to worry over. Women having abortions shouldn’t be one of them!

I’m against abortions in principle, but stand firmly with those that believe it is, and should be, a woman’s choice, especially in cases of rape/incest/health of the mother/malformed fetuses.