Comments on: Pediatricians Back Away From Evers’ Gun Bill

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:42:44 +0000

REGARDING:
“Lets see a doctor can ask you if there is a gun in your home, But you cannot ask him if he has AIDS”

No law forbidding you asking is constitutional.
No law forbidding the doctor asking is constitutional.

No question has to be answered.
Not every answer is truthful.

Just assume he DOES (or at least might, since some who’re infected don’t know) and don’t bite him.

David for biting your tongue, not your doctor

By: eab

eab — Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:34:24 +0000

jp said….”To eab,
Ask someone who has taken an EMT class or better yet, take one yourself. You will
find that “tallho” is correct according to law.”

I said….Thanks for the suggestion. I would like to have a more reliable source than “ask someone”. If this law exists, I would like to read it for myself so I can estimate what the punishment (if any) may be for asking my doctor this.

If a person is sure that this is on the books and they *say* it is on the books, they should be able to cite their source a bit better than “ask someone” or “take a course”.

By: jp

jp — Sat, 16 Apr 2011 13:18:14 +0000

To eab,
Ask someone who has taken an EMT class or better yet, take one yourself. You will
find that “tallho” is correct according to law.

By: eab

eab — Sat, 16 Apr 2011 05:38:16 +0000

tallyho said…”Lets see a doctor can ask you if there is a gun in your home, But you cannot ask him if he has AIDS!!!!!!!! Before sticking his hand in your mouth.”

I said….Could you cite the source of this information please?

By: tallyho

tallyho — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:30:15 +0000

Lets see a doctor can ask you if there is a gun in your home, But you cannot ask him if he has AIDS!!!!!!!! Before sticking his hand in your mouth.

By: jp

jp — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 02:48:25 +0000

The vast majority of guns made down through the years have never hurt anyone.
In fact, you can load a gun and take the safety off and lay it in plain sight on the
table and leave it for years and it will hurt noone. That is, until some fool picks it
up.
I will say however, guns like automobiles should not be owned and operated by
everyone.

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 00:05:58 +0000

REGARDING:
“So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.”

Without checking the numbers, it seems likely. On the other hand, doctors are constantly trying to deal with life and death situations so a few mistakes add up quickly,.whereas, most guns are motionless and only brought out when needed.

So if we took time in operation and compared THAT to number of deaths, I wouldn’t be surprised to find guns were more deadly. After all that is what they’re designed to do–kill when necessary.

So now looking at the numbers, you have 700,000 physicians accidentally killing 120,000 people per year. Assuming a lazy doctor who only works 40 hours per week that’s 5.24 quadrillion seconds of doctoring to only kill 120,000 people or one death for every 43.68 million seconds of operation.

Now, if you fired a gun once per second, how many people would be killed after 43.68 million shots? Probably more than one. So looking at it that way, guns are more dangerous than doctors. That makes sense since even poor doctors are trying to save lives and people firing guns should be trying to kill people.

I’m not griping about the doctors or the guns, each has his, her or its place in life. Just considering the numbers.

David meditating
then ciphering

By: eab

eab — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:43:52 +0000

So let’s add pediatricians to the growing list of people many of our citizens are afraid of. Folks, just tell the doctor you don’t want to answer the question or find another doctor. As part of his business a doctor should be able to ask whatever he wants to. Only a communist would try to restrain a person from running their business however he or she wants to.

C’mon folks. There’s not as much out there to be afraid of as y’all think. You are jumping at shadows here.

By: John K. Humkey

John K. Humkey — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:52:18 +0000

Why ask anything? A doctor can tell a parent “Pools are dangerous, don’t let your 2 year old near one without supervision.” Its not necessary to ask if the parent OWNS a pool to tell them this. Same for guns. Why “ask” anything? Tell them . . . a 2 year old is very curious, IF you have guns, you might consider locking them up. Even if you hate guns and will never own one, your child might visit another child, in a house where guns exist, so you might train them to respect guns and leave them alone. Nothing about that requires asking if the parent has guns. . . As a nation, and a body of lawmakers, we seem to constantly take the extra effort to make everything as difficult an conflicting as humanly possible. So don’t “ask” anything . . . tell parents what will endanger their child. And let the parent act against those dangers as they see fit. You may save the child from some danger the parent didn’t think of. Why build the controversy and difficulty into the situation by asking?

By: Jim

Jim — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 04:39:52 +0000

(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000. (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000. (C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171. Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now think about this: Guns (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million) (B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500. (C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188. Statistics courtesy of FBI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.