Comments on: All Florida Prisions To Ban Tobacco Use In Six Months http://www.northescambia.com/2011/03/all-florida-prisions-to-ban-tobacco-use-in-six-months Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Sat, 18 Apr 2026 20:22:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Notreally http://www.northescambia.com/2011/03/all-florida-prisions-to-ban-tobacco-use-in-six-months/comment-page-1#comment-98552 Notreally Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:01:25 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=47854#comment-98552 "Inmates don't have rights in Prison", really. We have a justice system in place that says that they do have rights and that also administers their punishment. How dare any of you to decide to be judge and jury on another person because they have committed crimes in their life. We all have done something that under the wrong circumstances could have gotten us behind somebody's bars, even if only for a short amount of time. We are are all human beings and therefore have certain rights afforded to us. Treating prisoners as less than human or deciding to take the law in your own hands (outside of your officer authority) only compounds the lack of trust and faith that people have in the justice system as a whole. “Inmates don’t have rights in Prison”, really. We have a justice system in place that says that they do have rights and that also administers their punishment. How dare any of you to decide to be judge and jury on another person because they have committed crimes in their life. We all have done something that under the wrong circumstances could have gotten us behind somebody’s bars, even if only for a short amount of time. We are are all human beings and therefore have certain rights afforded to us. Treating prisoners as less than human or deciding to take the law in your own hands (outside of your officer authority) only compounds the lack of trust and faith that people have in the justice system as a whole.

]]> By: Just An Old Soldier http://www.northescambia.com/2011/03/all-florida-prisions-to-ban-tobacco-use-in-six-months/comment-page-1#comment-78986 Just An Old Soldier Fri, 18 Mar 2011 04:31:37 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=47854#comment-78986 I am not sure that Mr. Buss is looking at more than a just small slice of the financial picture. His premise is that smoking increases prison health-care costs. He cites that smoking "related" health care (whatever that means) costs the taxpayers around $9 Million a year. That may be true. However, health care problems due to smoking are not acute, they're chronic due to a long-term smoking. These problems don't just pop up over night & stopping tobacco use will not end the healthcare problems (and cost) over night. The damage is already done in a lot of cases. And what of the "cost of change" and change management? Lots of good sounding ideas have a lot of hidden costs that show up after the new idea has been implemented. The whole thing doesn't sound quite right to me. I am not sure that Mr. Buss is looking at more than a just small slice of the financial picture.

His premise is that smoking increases prison health-care costs. He cites that smoking “related” health care (whatever that means) costs the taxpayers around $9 Million a year. That may be true.

However, health care problems due to smoking are not acute, they’re chronic due to a long-term smoking. These problems don’t just pop up over night & stopping tobacco use will not end the healthcare problems (and cost) over night. The damage is already done in a lot of cases.

And what of the “cost of change” and change management? Lots of good sounding ideas have a lot of hidden costs that show up after the new idea has been implemented.

The whole thing doesn’t sound quite right to me.

]]> By: ??? http://www.northescambia.com/2011/03/all-florida-prisions-to-ban-tobacco-use-in-six-months/comment-page-1#comment-78785 ??? Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:58:10 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=47854#comment-78785 this sounds all fine and dandy but who is gonna come in and help us officers try and control this mess. i am a wife of an officer and an officer myself and things are pretty anruly right now because we have a shortage of staff every day . i have seen people who have tried to stop smoking and it is not a pretty sight. throw in the mix a convict who has most of his life to spend in prison and it spells trouble. do you really think he cares about out safety???? not a chance!! alot of the inmates can turn violent at any time. they will kill each over something as stupid as a pack of ramen noddles. i have seen if happen!!! we still have to walk and work among them and most of the time by ourselfs. most of you are doing some mighty big talking but if you walked in our shoes for one day you would be singing a different tune and it would probaly have "get me out of here" somewhere in your song!!! the gov is trying to win the voters over and this makes him a winner to alot of you by the looks of it but did he ever stop and consider the consequences. oh and by the way neither one of us are smokers...if your wondering this sounds all fine and dandy but who is gonna come in and help us officers try and control this mess. i am a wife of an officer and an officer myself and things are pretty anruly right now because we have a shortage of staff every day . i have seen people who have tried to stop smoking and it is not a pretty sight. throw in the mix a convict who has most of his life to spend in prison and it spells trouble. do you really think he cares about out safety???? not a chance!! alot of the inmates can turn violent at any time. they will kill each over something as stupid as a pack of ramen noddles. i have seen if happen!!! we still have to walk and work among them and most of the time by ourselfs. most of you are doing some mighty big talking but if you walked in our shoes for one day you would be singing a different tune and it would probaly have “get me out of here” somewhere in your song!!! the gov is trying to win the voters over and this makes him a winner to alot of you by the looks of it but did he ever stop and consider the consequences. oh and by the way neither one of us are smokers…if your wondering

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2011/03/all-florida-prisions-to-ban-tobacco-use-in-six-months/comment-page-1#comment-78768 David Huie Green Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:38:01 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=47854#comment-78768 so you're saying this will make prison less desirable? so you’re saying this will make prison less desirable?

]]> By: john smith http://www.northescambia.com/2011/03/all-florida-prisions-to-ban-tobacco-use-in-six-months/comment-page-1#comment-78658 john smith Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:03:14 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=47854#comment-78658 somebodys gonna get there head knocked off smoking is the only thing the inmates had left after there freedom got taken away somebodys gonna get there head knocked off smoking is the only thing the inmates had left after there freedom got taken away

]]> By: get em http://www.northescambia.com/2011/03/all-florida-prisions-to-ban-tobacco-use-in-six-months/comment-page-1#comment-78622 get em Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:53:58 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=47854#comment-78622 I sure don't agree to pay for these heathens to help them quit smoking. I didn't have anything to do with them starting. I don't pay for anyone else to stop why would I want to pay for criminals. Who cares if it is easy for them. I sure don’t agree to pay for these heathens to help them quit smoking.
I didn’t have anything to do with them starting. I don’t pay for anyone else
to stop why would I want to pay for criminals. Who cares if it is easy for them.

]]> By: get em http://www.northescambia.com/2011/03/all-florida-prisions-to-ban-tobacco-use-in-six-months/comment-page-1#comment-78620 get em Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:49:27 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=47854#comment-78620 I agree with ‘prison reform’ except i would add child molesters to number 1. And yes, this is a great idea to remove tobacco from prisons, like ’smarty pants’ said, they are being punished! They should feel like they’re being punished…how else are you going to learn from your mistakes?! And ‘DOC’ regarding your comment, “How would you feel if someone came up to you and told you to quit smoking?” Are you serious?! Smoke til your lungs become aflame for all ‘they’ care…we are talking about PRISONERS here! People who have committed CRIMES and are being PUNISHED! Yes, take away their tobacco, only feed them enough to survive and make it as uncomfortable as possible!!!! They should have absolutely ZERO priviledges while in prison. And to ‘Wondering’ – I personally do not believe they should take away priviledges from the officers…after all, they work for the prison, not a prisoner themselves. And as far as RIGHTS are concerned for the prisoners…I think those particular ‘rights’ don’t apply while in prison 'perfect - nuff said I agree with ‘prison reform’ except i would add child molesters to number 1.

And yes, this is a great idea to remove tobacco from prisons, like ’smarty pants’ said, they are being punished! They should feel like they’re being punished…how else are you going to learn from your mistakes?!

And ‘DOC’ regarding your comment, “How would you feel if someone came up to you and told you to quit smoking?” Are you serious?! Smoke til your lungs become aflame for all ‘they’ care…we are talking about PRISONERS here! People who have committed CRIMES and are being PUNISHED! Yes, take away their tobacco, only feed them enough to survive and make it as uncomfortable as possible!!!! They should have absolutely ZERO priviledges while in prison.

And to ‘Wondering’ – I personally do not believe they should take away priviledges from the officers…after all, they work for the prison, not a prisoner themselves. And as far as RIGHTS are concerned for the prisoners…I think those particular ‘rights’ don’t apply while in prison

‘perfect – nuff said

]]> By: reanna http://www.northescambia.com/2011/03/all-florida-prisions-to-ban-tobacco-use-in-six-months/comment-page-1#comment-78563 reanna Wed, 16 Mar 2011 03:33:16 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=47854#comment-78563 I sure would hate to be a guard that first couple of weeks. Some people on here are so self righteous. I think they should let them smoke pot; mellow them all out. Less tension and fighting for everyone. I sure would hate to be a guard that first couple of weeks. Some people on here are so self righteous. I think they should let them smoke pot; mellow them all out. Less tension and fighting for everyone.

]]> By: JIM W http://www.northescambia.com/2011/03/all-florida-prisions-to-ban-tobacco-use-in-six-months/comment-page-1#comment-78556 JIM W Wed, 16 Mar 2011 03:08:44 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=47854#comment-78556 Don't think it's a good idea to take smoking away from the inmates. There will be severe retaliation if they do. No I don't smoke but I have witnessed people who do that tried to quit and the frustration was terrible. The lack of smoking when your addicted to it is terrible and people get angry when they can't. Just don't think it to be a good idea. So the employees can go outside the fence and smoke then come back in to work with the smell all over them. Do you think this is not going to send someone over the edge that is wanting a cig and can not get it. Just saying that does not make sense. So far as the health care cost going up I'm sure it has but I do not think you can lay it all on smoking. How about all the other factors that go into the underwriting of the policies? It is easy to paint a picture of what you want until someone sits down and begins peeling back the layers of the paint to see where it is all coming from. Then you find very interesting things for sure. Don’t think it’s a good idea to take smoking away from the inmates. There will be severe retaliation if they do. No I don’t smoke but I have witnessed people who do that tried to quit and the frustration was terrible. The lack of smoking when your addicted to it is terrible and people get angry when they can’t. Just don’t think it to be a good idea. So the employees can go outside the fence and smoke then come back in to work with the smell all over them. Do you think this is not going to send someone over the edge that is wanting a cig and can not get it. Just saying that does not make sense.
So far as the health care cost going up I’m sure it has but I do not think you can lay it all on smoking. How about all the other factors that go into the underwriting of the policies? It is easy to paint a picture of what you want until someone sits down and begins peeling back the layers of the paint to see where it is all coming from. Then you find very interesting things for sure.

]]> By: jerry harris http://www.northescambia.com/2011/03/all-florida-prisions-to-ban-tobacco-use-in-six-months/comment-page-1#comment-78551 jerry harris Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:38:03 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=47854#comment-78551 MR.buss i am a parent i have a daughter thats incarcerated i send her money ever month yall say that yall pay ever inmates medical bills but yall dont i dont think that yall should take away the inmates smokeing priveliges they pay for their own medical bills. MR.buss i am a parent i have a daughter thats incarcerated i send her money ever month yall say that yall pay ever inmates medical bills but yall dont i dont think that yall should take away the inmates smokeing priveliges they pay for their own medical bills.

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