If you want business statistics, go to the SBA (Small Business Administration) website, and go to the BEA (Bureau of Economic Analysis) website – BEA is more macro economics, while SBA focuses on Small Business. Or just read the WSJ & Financial Times.

As I said, Liberals always go for the cheap dig, and you assume that I’m embarrassed, another dig? One can’t help but think so.

Tut, tut. Mind your manners, young lady.

Liberals lie, and accuse others of things they themselves are most guilty of doing, and being. And the Illiterates follow.

Maybe you could help me out by citing a more defined source than “the internet” to get information on how “the unions’ drove Steak and Ale out of business.

And my question was about your statement “And sadly, more are folding rather than moving – there’s a cost associated with that too.” I simply asked your source for that. I apologize if I embarrassed you.

So far as it goes, I gotta line up with David when he pointed out that you stated S&A had a faulty business model. True. I agree and you first said it. So there we are in agreement.There are a lot of other eateries that came along and are still around, though they had to put up with the same business climate as S&A.

They had a faulty business model.

Labor cost money. It has ever since that pesky 13th amendment was enacted. (Actually, it cost before that but folks tended to not recognize the associated costs of slavery.) So if they could come up with a way to provide service without people, they could avoid that onerous cost. Rossum’s Universal Robots also had some unforseen costs and they don’t exist, so most businesses are going to have to continue to pay employees. One telling point, though, is that other businesses pay workers and still stay in business.

Compliance costs can include things like keeping rats out of the food, cleaning the toilets every now and then, avoiding things which will kill employees and customers. Again, others manage.

Mismanagement is left. Dilbert implies there is quite a bit of it out there and it is likely to bring down any business where it rules. One big problem lies in not attracting enough customers to make money. Maybe their main problem was that somebody else did a better job of getting customers.

David for Burger King
and Chin’s
and King’s
and Subway
and Food Giant

In their case, their business model collapsed under the weight of cost(labor being chief in that), compliance costs, and mismanagement. Then the main business failed to inform their employees that they were in bankruptcy proceedings (not necessarily illegal, just shifty, breaks the social contract) though they were obligated to inform their lenders, and business associates. A young family member was a casualty in this. It was very sad and frustrating.

As for me (and your inference that I’m on the “dole” – liberals always go for the cheap dig don’t they?), I have small business holdings and live within my means. I am not beholden to a government hand-out and seriously doubt that I will ever draw money from the Ponzi scheme that is Social Security, I’ve earned every dollar that I’ve ever spent, and have ensured that I will continue to do so as long as I live. Capisci?

Simple solution to grow business – reduce business costs (taxes/regulations) and businesses will start, and sometimes grow if they have a market.

Government stands in the way of much of our business success.

Don’t buy into the Liberal Lies.

Not just “I believe” or I’m pretty sure. Actual sources that didn’t come from your next door neighbor or “a man at the hardware store, I can’t remember his name”?

Sounds like you may be on a government program?

Then there’s unrestrained foreign competition (think China, Ins here)…an active undercutting of American Business at every level. Where’s those “green jobs”? Try looking where those green light bulbs are made, it’s on the package.

Want jobs to come back to America? Try reducing Corporate Taxes, and all the other associated costs of Government.

Business exist to make a profit.

If the profit will increase with a company remaining in the USA, then the business decision will be to STAY. If the costs are too high – they will either go, or fold. And sadly, more are folding rather than moving – there’s a cost associated with that too.Some are choosing just to close their doors and turn out their lights.

Whatever happened to “Steak and Ale”? One day they were open and running, and the next day, the employees arrived to locked doors and a note of apology from the local manager. Their last paychecks bounced.

Whats your tool box look like?
Good luck!

Right on the first part, not quite right on the second part.

Many people have businesses in which they are the sole employee, so there is no question they are working for the client. The purpose of a business is to provide a certain service or product to others. Some provide many different services or products, but even then they tend to limit their offerings. They don’t just come to work and decide to do crop dusting today because they’re tired of making bobby pins from yesterday and will fish for salmon tomorrow. They tend to be more specialized.

Everybody works for somebody unless they’re spending what someone else gave them. Foundations can keep up children and grand children for a time but eventually the beneficiaries spend it all, get too numerous to benefit or die out, which is why the richest people in the country aren’t third generation richest people in the world. Even the foundations provide goods and services.

Anyhoo, businesses serve others. Steel mills meet the demands for steel for others. Orange growers meet the demand for oranges for others. House cleaners clean. Wal-Mart meets the demand for a central place to get all the things folks want. Truckers move goods from HERE to THERE. Even bosses and/or owners of Wal-Mart or the trucking companies, see to it that the needs are met by seeing to it the workers do the work.

Other than that minor point, I fully agree with your statement that they don’t exist simply to provide jobs to other people.

David considering
what would be a
proper social safety net

You are so wrong….. I don’t even know where to start.
First off people don’t start businesses just so YOU have a job.
They start businesses because they don’t want to work for others.
A good business goes by the law and hopes that if they have to
hire people they don’t get some numbskull that doesn’t really
want to work and thinks that the world including their boss owes
them a living.
JUST like WE don’t OWE a guy who won’t go out and get a job
ANYTHING. WE don’t want unemployment UPPED PERIOD!

GET A JOB, GET MORE EDUCATION …..GROW UP AND TAKE
CARE OF YOURSELF. I AM NOT YOUR MOMMA….DON’T COME
HOME TO ME.

IF THAT SOUNDS TOUGH…YOUR GOT THAT RIGHT…..GROWN UPS ARE
NOT BABIES ANYMORE.