<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Florida Teacher Merit Pay Bill Advances</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.northescambia.com/2011/02/florida-teacher-merit-pay-bill-advances/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2011/02/florida-teacher-merit-pay-bill-advances</link>
	<description>Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2026 16:52:21 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2011/02/florida-teacher-merit-pay-bill-advances/comment-page-1#comment-73636</link>
		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.northescambia.com/?p=44316#comment-73636</guid>
		<description>REGARDING:
&quot;If this isn’t double-talk, I don’t know what is — keep tenure, but could still lose your job ????&quot;

Even with tenure, current teachers can be fired for a number of unlikely reasons--assorted crimes and misdeeds. Tenure just means they can&#039;t be fired without cause.

Therefore, not definitely double-talk.

David for avoiding cause for termination</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REGARDING:<br />
&#8220;If this isn’t double-talk, I don’t know what is — keep tenure, but could still lose your job ????&#8221;</p>
<p>Even with tenure, current teachers can be fired for a number of unlikely reasons&#8211;assorted crimes and misdeeds. Tenure just means they can&#8217;t be fired without cause.</p>
<p>Therefore, not definitely double-talk.</p>
<p>David for avoiding cause for termination</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: tbpcola</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2011/02/florida-teacher-merit-pay-bill-advances/comment-page-1#comment-73618</link>
		<dc:creator>tbpcola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.northescambia.com/?p=44316#comment-73618</guid>
		<description>Confused about the following comment:  &quot;Current teachers are grandfathered into the system they were hired under – they may be able to keep their current long-term contracts, though they’ll still have to be evaluated under the system that is eventually developed, and could lose their jobs if their students don’t perform well on standardized tests.&quot;

If this isn&#039;t double-talk, I don&#039;t know what is --- keep tenure, but could still lose your job ????

By the way, would only those teachers whose subject area is tested via FCAT, et al, be endangered by student performance failure -- or would ALL teachers be subject to losing their jobs?

Someone has got to do a lot of work to make this program work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Confused about the following comment:  &#8220;Current teachers are grandfathered into the system they were hired under – they may be able to keep their current long-term contracts, though they’ll still have to be evaluated under the system that is eventually developed, and could lose their jobs if their students don’t perform well on standardized tests.&#8221;</p>
<p>If this isn&#8217;t double-talk, I don&#8217;t know what is &#8212; keep tenure, but could still lose your job ????</p>
<p>By the way, would only those teachers whose subject area is tested via FCAT, et al, be endangered by student performance failure &#8212; or would ALL teachers be subject to losing their jobs?</p>
<p>Someone has got to do a lot of work to make this program work.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2011/02/florida-teacher-merit-pay-bill-advances/comment-page-1#comment-73514</link>
		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 03:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.northescambia.com/?p=44316#comment-73514</guid>
		<description>I fear the result of paying politicians for their performance is that they would write more laws to prove they are performing.

David knowing politicians will be paid by someone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fear the result of paying politicians for their performance is that they would write more laws to prove they are performing.</p>
<p>David knowing politicians will be paid by someone</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dixie Chick</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2011/02/florida-teacher-merit-pay-bill-advances/comment-page-1#comment-73503</link>
		<dc:creator>Dixie Chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 23:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.northescambia.com/?p=44316#comment-73503</guid>
		<description>I think the policitans should be paid based on their performance just like they want to pay teachers based on their performance. Then we will see some results!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the policitans should be paid based on their performance just like they want to pay teachers based on their performance. Then we will see some results!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2011/02/florida-teacher-merit-pay-bill-advances/comment-page-1#comment-73498</link>
		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.northescambia.com/?p=44316#comment-73498</guid>
		<description>REGARDING:
&quot;And what does this plan cost the taxpayers? I thought Scott was trying to cut the budget.&quot;

Scott isn&#039;t the Senate, the Senate isn&#039;t Scott.

Usually when you have a Republican Governor and a majority Republican Senate, they will work together, but Scott forced himself on the party by getting the people to vote for him even though they wanted somebody else.

Their differences should make for some interesting times in the next few years.

David who voted for 
Farid Khavari (Independent) Businessman &amp; Economist
&amp; 
Darcy Richardson (Independent) Historian, Author, Financial Consultant
KNOWING THEY WOULD LOSE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REGARDING:<br />
&#8220;And what does this plan cost the taxpayers? I thought Scott was trying to cut the budget.&#8221;</p>
<p>Scott isn&#8217;t the Senate, the Senate isn&#8217;t Scott.</p>
<p>Usually when you have a Republican Governor and a majority Republican Senate, they will work together, but Scott forced himself on the party by getting the people to vote for him even though they wanted somebody else.</p>
<p>Their differences should make for some interesting times in the next few years.</p>
<p>David who voted for<br />
Farid Khavari (Independent) Businessman &amp; Economist<br />
&amp;<br />
Darcy Richardson (Independent) Historian, Author, Financial Consultant<br />
KNOWING THEY WOULD LOSE</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2011/02/florida-teacher-merit-pay-bill-advances/comment-page-1#comment-73466</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.northescambia.com/?p=44316#comment-73466</guid>
		<description>...&quot;Otherwise, why don’t we just abolish the local school board &quot;...
I hope the school boards are involved in more than  pay.
On second thought, maybe they shouldn&#039;t be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221;Otherwise, why don’t we just abolish the local school board &#8220;&#8230;<br />
I hope the school boards are involved in more than  pay.<br />
On second thought, maybe they shouldn&#8217;t be.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Just An Old Soldier</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2011/02/florida-teacher-merit-pay-bill-advances/comment-page-1#comment-73331</link>
		<dc:creator>Just An Old Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.northescambia.com/?p=44316#comment-73331</guid>
		<description>This is a complex issue - we need an education system that delivers well educated yound adults into the labor force. Our country has created a Department of Education that has been a conduit for wasting billions of dollars of taxpayer&#039;s wealth with nearly zero improvement, andin some cases a worsening of the problem.

Parents have abandoned a large part of the education process, and the children have not been held to a set standard for decades before the present laws went into place. Children, a product of our Society, seeing no compelling reason to participate in their education drop out at ridiculously high rates nation wide. And unionization has turned a &quot;profession&quot; into a &quot;trade&quot; and has served only to increase pay (without merit) and protect those that should be out of the teaching business.

It is sad to see students at the freshman level in college, unable to do anything productive academically, think, read, do assigned taks. They have floated like dross through a system where there has been no accountability for anyone. And sadly, parents and Society are largely to blame. The lack of a solid Moral Code is fundamental in all of this too. (Thanks to Liberal Moral Relativism, and &quot;Mulitculturalism&quot;)

It is well past time to change that, or our children, and their children will be in a land much different than the one we grew up in - a land of the Educated, and the Illiterati (thanks, MTV, modern media et al). A land of broken brains subject to the whims of whatever forces of change rule their lives in their future days and unable to cope for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a complex issue &#8211; we need an education system that delivers well educated yound adults into the labor force. Our country has created a Department of Education that has been a conduit for wasting billions of dollars of taxpayer&#8217;s wealth with nearly zero improvement, andin some cases a worsening of the problem.</p>
<p>Parents have abandoned a large part of the education process, and the children have not been held to a set standard for decades before the present laws went into place. Children, a product of our Society, seeing no compelling reason to participate in their education drop out at ridiculously high rates nation wide. And unionization has turned a &#8220;profession&#8221; into a &#8220;trade&#8221; and has served only to increase pay (without merit) and protect those that should be out of the teaching business.</p>
<p>It is sad to see students at the freshman level in college, unable to do anything productive academically, think, read, do assigned taks. They have floated like dross through a system where there has been no accountability for anyone. And sadly, parents and Society are largely to blame. The lack of a solid Moral Code is fundamental in all of this too. (Thanks to Liberal Moral Relativism, and &#8220;Mulitculturalism&#8221;)</p>
<p>It is well past time to change that, or our children, and their children will be in a land much different than the one we grew up in &#8211; a land of the Educated, and the Illiterati (thanks, MTV, modern media et al). A land of broken brains subject to the whims of whatever forces of change rule their lives in their future days and unable to cope for themselves.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: SW</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2011/02/florida-teacher-merit-pay-bill-advances/comment-page-1#comment-73290</link>
		<dc:creator>SW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.northescambia.com/?p=44316#comment-73290</guid>
		<description>@Cantonment Teacher

Well said and your point is well taken.  

That being said, your union has failed as has the state board of education; and, I might add, so has the Federal education department (whatever it&#039;s called).

Sounds like it&#039;s time to start over by letting those useless state and federal people go and hand off the running of local schools to local people.  

I still do not agree that unions are good; never will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cantonment Teacher</p>
<p>Well said and your point is well taken.  </p>
<p>That being said, your union has failed as has the state board of education; and, I might add, so has the Federal education department (whatever it&#8217;s called).</p>
<p>Sounds like it&#8217;s time to start over by letting those useless state and federal people go and hand off the running of local schools to local people.  </p>
<p>I still do not agree that unions are good; never will.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: cantonmentteacher</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2011/02/florida-teacher-merit-pay-bill-advances/comment-page-1#comment-73255</link>
		<dc:creator>cantonmentteacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.northescambia.com/?p=44316#comment-73255</guid>
		<description>The union isn&#039;t against firing people--it&#039;s against firing people without a reason.  Teachers don&#039;t like &quot;bad&quot; teachers any more than anyone else--they make those of us who do our job look bad (just like in any industry). 

What the unions (and the majority of teachers--union or not) want is a fair way to evaluate the teachers on what they do every day.  One test, once a year cannot measure an effective teacher.  I can teach my heart out all year long and be considered an &quot;ineffective&quot; teacher under the new plan if my students don&#039;t score well on a test that I will have had no input into writing (and very likely won&#039;t even know the true content of until the day of the test).  

The only influence I have on my students is when they are in my classroom.  I can&#039;t go home with them to make sure they do their homework, sleep, get up on time, eat breakfast and make it to school.  That is the parent&#039;s job--and they don&#039;t get evaluated on their children&#039;s performance (or their  own performance)--I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The union isn&#8217;t against firing people&#8211;it&#8217;s against firing people without a reason.  Teachers don&#8217;t like &#8220;bad&#8221; teachers any more than anyone else&#8211;they make those of us who do our job look bad (just like in any industry). </p>
<p>What the unions (and the majority of teachers&#8211;union or not) want is a fair way to evaluate the teachers on what they do every day.  One test, once a year cannot measure an effective teacher.  I can teach my heart out all year long and be considered an &#8220;ineffective&#8221; teacher under the new plan if my students don&#8217;t score well on a test that I will have had no input into writing (and very likely won&#8217;t even know the true content of until the day of the test).  </p>
<p>The only influence I have on my students is when they are in my classroom.  I can&#8217;t go home with them to make sure they do their homework, sleep, get up on time, eat breakfast and make it to school.  That is the parent&#8217;s job&#8211;and they don&#8217;t get evaluated on their children&#8217;s performance (or their  own performance)&#8211;I do.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Oversight</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2011/02/florida-teacher-merit-pay-bill-advances/comment-page-1#comment-73253</link>
		<dc:creator>Oversight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.northescambia.com/?p=44316#comment-73253</guid>
		<description>And what does this plan cost the taxpayers?  I thought Scott was trying to cut the budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what does this plan cost the taxpayers?  I thought Scott was trying to cut the budget.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
